i remember how Monty said that as a senior, the players would just listen to him. he has a lot of leadership ability.
and he certainly mastered the hook shot.

oskidunker;842830592 said:

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Excellent choices. Msf would be great. Maybe get Rooks to play at a higher level

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SFCityBear;842830350 said:

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+1 to both you and oskidunker. Thank you. I’ve been saying this for a long, long time. You want to get stamina, you get it by running up Grizzly Peak, like the last time Cal won the conference 4 years straight and was a powerhouse in the NCAA. And those players could go 40 minutes straight on back-to-back nights, often with no timeouts in the games.

And you don’t need a Strength and Conditioning coach to show you how to do it. Your S&C coach could still have players work out in a gym, but you need to make time for running hills. Running could be done in small or large groups, on personal time and not organized, if necessary to avoid breaking NCAA rules about allowed practices. You could hire Jerry Rice or Roger Craig as a consultant, and they could map out the program schedule.

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Pete Newell had the BB team train with the cross country team before the BB season if I recall correctly (I was there). Maybe not legal these days. But that group of guys could run all day when the time came.

6164bear;842830763 said:

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Pete Newell had the BB team train with the cross country team before the BB season if I recall correctly (I was there). Maybe not legal these days. But that group of guys could run all day when the time came.

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The game was also a lot different back then. Long distance running is one of the worst things you can do as an explosive athlete. Converting fast twitch muscle fibers into slow twitch... you may be able to run all day, but staying in front of your man, beating your man off the dribble, maintaining playing weight, and being able to even touch the net would all become problems.

LurkingSince2010;842830845 said:

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Long distance running is one of the worst things you can do as an explosive athlete.

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What about running hills?

ducky23;842829511 said:

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Midgley for 3rd assistant

Carl Boyd for s&c coach!

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I'd love to see Midgley return. He'd be great for the team's psyche for a start. As I recall, he was absolutely fearless, and despite almost always being the smallest player on the court, wouldn't back down to anyone.

6164bear;842830763 said:

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Pete Newell had the BB team train with the cross country team before the BB season if I recall correctly (I was there). Maybe not legal these days. But that group of guys could run all day when the time came.

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I was there as well, and knew several players on the team, and they all said Pete Newell often had the players run up to Grizzly Peak, and it was really grueling and challenging. Whether they did it with the cross country team or not, I don't know, but they ran up the Berkeley hills fairly often. I failed to make the Cal frosh in 1959 and the Varsity in 1960, and I was really disappointed, except for one thing: I wouldn't have to run up to Grizzly Peak at all. John Wooden had his UCLA players train with the track team all the time.

LurkingSince2010;842830845 said:

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The game was also a lot different back then. Long distance running is one of the worst things you can do as an explosive athlete. Converting fast twitch muscle fibers into slow twitch... you may be able to run all day, but staying in front of your man, beating your man off the dribble, maintaining playing weight, and being able to even touch the net would all become problems.

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I'm no expert on conditioning, and I have no quarrel with training for strength and explosiveness, as long as you train for stamina as well. You don't do the running uphill to train for "being able to run all day". That is not the problem. The problem is the legs. If your legs are tired, you can't stay in a crouch on defense, to enable you to move side to side and forward and backward to "stay in front of your man" on defense. Players today can't stay long in a crouch, and need to have a lot of "help" playing defense.

If your legs are tired, it will affect your shooting. Your jump shots and your free throws will start hitting the front of the rim. You run those hills so your legs will not get tired in a game. If you doubt that players are getting tired, then watch any PAC12 game from the last few seasons, and when there is a free throw, watch how many players are grabbing their knees, out of breath, and watch the last 10 minutes and see how many shots start hitting the front of the rim.

Today's players are so out of shape that they can't go 40 minutes in a game, and they never have to play more than a few minutes without a time out or a rest. And they don't fast break or full court press much today either. And one of the reasons is they are out of shape in terms of stamina, in both their lungs and their legs. They have what, 18 time outs now? How can you possibly get tired in a game like that, if you are in reasonable shape?

As a fan, I can't stand that the game is now a half court game. I much prefer to watch a fast break on offense, and a full court press on defense, but few college teams play that way now, and I argue that one reason is the athletes are out of shape, and couldn't play it if the coach wanted them to. Thank goodness for the Warriors, who are five players in constant motion on offense and pretty tough man defenders on defense. Hopefully the rest of the NBA will follow suit, and it looks like they are, more and more. As for "touching the net," the game has changed, and most players are taller now, and barely have to jump to touch the net.