Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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He was my choice from a basketball perspective. Not sure if other issues around him made him not possible.

But when you can get Cuonzo Martin's #3 assistant, you really have to.

Sluggo

was he really in the running or did he just use cal as leverage for an extension with nevada?

He hired our idiot asst coach yanni, so no.
Plus, there was something else like that against him.

Blame Mike Williams.

Go Bears!

concordtom said:

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He hired our idiot asst coach yanni, so no.
Plus, there was something else like that against him.

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He got a DUI in 2006. Got pulled over after a social event and was slightly above the limit. It was the kind of pre-Uber era moment of stupidity that could have easily happened to most of us.

KoreAmBear said:

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tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

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I would have too....now neither even wants the job. Our program has fallen hard.

UCBerkGrad said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

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I would have too....now neither even wants the job. Our program has fallen hard.

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Pretty obvious to the national college basketball community that hoops isn't a huge priority at Cal these days. Cuonzo using us as a stepping stone to Missouri said a lot... and I don't blame him one bit.

Frankly, I was surprised when I saw the conference HC salaries (posted here somewhere recently). IIRC, the Pac 12 median was WELL over $2 million/yr. I'm sure we would be willing to pay that for proven talent, but I'm not sure we could even get our money's worth right now.

We need to show our commitment by getting that practice facility, then go out and pay for a coach. Our best scenario would be if Wyking Jones somehow works out.

Gotta say, too: I was sorry to see Shocky fall by the wayside. Warts and all, he was a pretty big donor and helped create excitement for the program. Cal Basketball needs all the $$$ and excitement it can get.

Big C said:

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Pretty obvious to the national college basketball community that hoops isn't a huge priority at Cal these days.

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What sport is a huge priority at Cal these days? As far as I can tell, none.

Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

Big C said:

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UCBerkGrad said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

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I would have too....now neither even wants the job. Our program has fallen hard.

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Pretty obvious to the national college basketball community that hoops isn't a huge priority at Cal these days. Cuonzo using us as a stepping stone to Missouri said a lot... and I don't blame him one bit.

Frankly, I was surprised when I saw the conference HC salaries (posted here somewhere recently). IIRC, the Pac 12 median was WELL over $2 million/yr. I'm sure we would be willing to pay that for proven talent, but I'm not sure we could even get our money's worth right now.

We need to show our commitment by getting that practice facility, then go out and pay for a coach. Our best scenario would be if Wyking Jones somehow works out.

Gotta say, too: I was sorry to see Shocky fall by the wayside. Warts and all, he was a pretty big donor and helped create excitement for the program. Cal Basketball needs all the $$$ and excitement it can get.

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What evidence do you have that he created excitement for the program? Other than with about the 25-50 people who regularly participate on the BearInsider men's basketball message board, many of whom had a negative reaction to him?

Dude was the biggest loser to ever grace these boards.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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No one ****ing cares if a coach swears

They do when Bay Area kids or minority kids are getting cussed out by their coaches. That gets no air play out here in anymore. Kids and parents are not having it.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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They do when Bay Area kids or minority kids are getting cussed out by their coaches. That gets no air play out here in anymore. Kids and parents are not having it.

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Lol we had a coach literally shove a player and nothing happened. This is a concern you're making up in your head.

If he wins, no one would care.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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socaliganbear said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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They do when Bay Area kids or minority kids are getting cussed out by their coaches. That gets no air play out here in anymore. Kids and parents are not having it.

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Lol we had a coach literally shove a player and nothing happened. This is a concern you're making up in your head.

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I guess you missed that Fox News segment. The one where Californians are offended by EVERYTHING

Gkhoury2325 said:

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They do when Bay Area kids or minority kids are getting cussed out by their coaches. That gets no air play out here in anymore. Kids and parents are not having it.

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Minority kids? uhhh

Chapman_is_Gone said:

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Big C said:

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UCBerkGrad said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

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I would have too....now neither even wants the job. Our program has fallen hard.

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Pretty obvious to the national college basketball community that hoops isn't a huge priority at Cal these days. Cuonzo using us as a stepping stone to Missouri said a lot... and I don't blame him one bit.

Frankly, I was surprised when I saw the conference HC salaries (posted here somewhere recently). IIRC, the Pac 12 median was WELL over $2 million/yr. I'm sure we would be willing to pay that for proven talent, but I'm not sure we could even get our money's worth right now.

We need to show our commitment by getting that practice facility, then go out and pay for a coach. Our best scenario would be if Wyking Jones somehow works out.

Gotta say, too: I was sorry to see Shocky fall by the wayside. Warts and all, he was a pretty big donor and helped create excitement for the program. Cal Basketball needs all the $$$ and excitement it can get.

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What evidence do you have that he created excitement for the program? Other than with about the 25-50 people who regularly participate on the BearInsider men's basketball message board, many of whom had a negative reaction to him?

Dude was the biggest loser to ever grace these boards.

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Evidence?!? This isn't a court of law. It's a Cal sports discussion board: I'm coming in from left field with an off-the-cuff opinion, dammit!

I wrote that he "helped create excitement". He was at the games. He had his monster thread, which people (and sometimes recruits) read. He was a presence. He wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but so what? Heck, the NEGATIVE posts about Shocky (yours included) added a little spice around here.

When you're talkin' Cal Basketball, every little bit helps.

ducky23 said:

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socaliganbear said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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They do when Bay Area kids or minority kids are getting cussed out by their coaches. That gets no air play out here in anymore. Kids and parents are not having it.

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Lol we had a coach literally shove a player and nothing happened. This is a concern you're making up in your head.

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I guess you missed that Fox News segment. The one where Californians are offended by EVERYTHING

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Says the guys offended by wishing someone "Happy Holidays"

calumnus said:

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Says the guys offended by wishing someone "Happy Holidays"

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2018 Golden Oski Nomination for Most Disingenuous Post of the Year: OT Division

UCBerkGrad said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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No one ****ing cares if a coach swears

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Except the Cal Administration. It could be the reason Brad Duggan was not offered the job. Cal coaches, from Nibs Price to the present day were squeaky clean, or the swearing was covered up and not made public (Newell), except for Lou C., and they allowed that to go public, so they could fire him for that and other reasons. There is no way Cal would hire a Bobby Knight, for example, in spite of all the recommendations Pete Newell might have given. How Campanelli slipped through the door a landed the job, we don't know, but I'm one who was glad he coached Cal and put some spark back into the program. Unfortunately, the spark became a fire that had to be put out.

Sweet 16.

Came back from 22 against the #2 ranked Def Eff team in Cincy. Incredible.

Lol we could've had this on the cheap. Of course we messed it up.

Another Miracle

ESPN in game win probability chart when score was 65-43 was 99.9%.

Unreal

Yup. Nevada in the sweet 16. All those teenagers and 20-somethings on that other Cal fan site should be embarrassed for all of their hysteria last year about the possibility of Cal hiring Musselman.

UCBerkGrad said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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No one ****ing cares if a coach swears

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What he said on TV is what you can hear on HBO every night. Now he and his team are on to the Sweet 16.
Don't know how he would fit in at Cal, but he's getting it done on the court. Seems to be a good family man with his young daughter and two young adults who appear to be his sons.

FiveThirtyEight's real time tourney odds had Cincy as the second most likely team to win the tourney after Nova midway through that game. Wow.

It's crazy how wide open this Tourney is. Top seeds are dropping like flies.

KoreAmBear said:

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tsubamoto2001 said:

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sheki said:

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Seems to have all the makings of a solid coach

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"The makings of a solid coach"

Funny, since he's got nearly a lifetime of experience coaching at a multiple levels and many different circumstances. He's not an a up-and-comer young guy. I vouched for Muss and wanted him. It was pure stupidity on Cal's part not to get him. He's not perfect, obviously (who is) and a lot here probably don't like the guy, but IDGAF. We'd probably have Jordan Brown committed already, too.

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I would have taken him or Randy Bennett.

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Muss is a indeed a solid coach. Bennett and the Gaels get no respect from the NCAA. He needs to upgrade the schedule. Or he can move up to a power conference team (why not Cal?). As long as Gonzaga is atop their conference, the Gaels will on the outside looking in.

SFCityBear said:

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UCBerkGrad said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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No one ****ing cares if a coach swears

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Except the Cal Administration. It could be the reason Brad Duggan was not offered the job. Cal coaches, from Nibs Price to the present day were squeaky clean, or the swearing was covered up and not made public (Newell), except for Lou C., and they allowed that to go public, so they could fire him for that and other reasons. There is no way Cal would hire a Bobby Knight, for example, in spite of all the recommendations Pete Newell might have given. How Campanelli slipped through the door a landed the job, we don't know, but I'm one who was glad he coached Cal and put some spark back into the program. Unfortunately, the spark became a fire that had to be put out.

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Does that explain why no one ever hired Duggan as a D-1 coach? Not sure how coaching long time at a JC necessarily translates to D-1.

philbert said:

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was he really in the running or did he just use cal as leverage for an extension with nevada?

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That's what I thought, but the Insiders insist that wasn't the case.

If that's true, Cal admin is totally right. We're just way too good for a former NBA coach taking Nevada to new heights in a worse conference (traditionally).

I hope he was leveraging Cal for an extension. Because if not, there is no hope for Cal basketball.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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Mussleman is not a good fit at Cal. Good coach for sure. He was cursing on TV. I don't find it offensive, but others might. Especially here in the Bay Area where being people may in tune with sensitivity.

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Wow. I really, really don't think any of that is true.

I thought the issue was that he hired Yanni? Probably disqualifying under the climate both then and now. You can scream all you like but no Cal administrator is going to take that kind of heat over any athletic coach (nor, I think, should they given where sports fits into the overall scope of things for a university like Cal).

That said, has had a nice run with the wolfpack this year. Good for him. Sucks for Reno but have to imagine he is long gone after this year.