APRIL FOOLS!

I wish

bring brown in and all is forgiven

Tine travelers are prohibited from disclosing the future. You sir are admitted to the Stanfurdium Sanitarian.

bearister, you've been saving that one for a while, haven't you...

calgo430 said:

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bring brown in and all is forgiven

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The other Brown (Jaylen) proved that a one-and-done talent, as fun as that is, doesn't lead to a high level of sustained program success. You have to land a bunch of recruits. Over and over. And be good at player management and game day tactics.

I don't know that anyone in this staff has the tactics down.

Cuonzo couldn't coach them up so he utilized about 50% of Jaylen's and Ivan's talent.

Richard__Lee said:

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calgo430 said:

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bring brown in and all is forgiven

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The other Brown (Jaylen) proved that a one-and-done talent, as fun as that is, doesn't lead to a high level of sustained program success. You have to land a bunch of recruits. Over and over. And be good at player management and game day tactics.

I don't know that anyone in this staff has the tactics down.

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True, one year, however great an individual performance, doesn't make a program. I don't see how that's relevant. The alternative is to pass on elite talent, and for what?

If you have an elite season or two -- you can build the start of a program based on an identity, culture. When other players see elite players choosing a program often enough, and the program gets players to the next level -- professionally and competitively, you have the building blocks of a respectable and consistent program

Richard__Lee said:

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calgo430 said:

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bring brown in and all is forgiven

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The other Brown (Jaylen) proved that a one-and-done talent, as fun as that is, doesn't lead to a high level of sustained program success. You have to land a bunch of recruits. Over and over. And be good at player management and game day tactics.

I don't know that anyone in this staff has the tactics down.

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Not only does it not lead to sustained program success, it did not even lead to one good season of success.

And only a handful of staffs in the country "have the tactics down." And even they can get knocked off in an early round of the the NCAA.

How about a new NCAA rule? In order to coach college basketball, you have to have a college degree or, alternatively, you have to be a member of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

I believe J Kidd secured a degree from tRump University when he played for the Nets.

SFCityBear said:

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Richard__Lee said:

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calgo430 said:

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bring brown in and all is forgiven

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The other Brown (Jaylen) proved that a one-and-done talent, as fun as that is, doesn't lead to a high level of sustained program success. You have to land a bunch of recruits. Over and over. And be good at player management and game day tactics.

I don't know that anyone in this staff has the tactics down.

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Not only does it not lead to sustained program success, it did not even lead to one good season of success.

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This is true. Just look at the number one picks for this year and recent years. Arizona had a worse W/L record with Ayton. Washington had a MUCH worse W/L record with Fulltz. LSU had a worse record with Simmons. I'm not suggesting it's wise to pass on elite talent if you can get it; but it doesn't guarantee you anything at all. Winning teams are winning teams because they have a strong foundation, great coaches, program stability and depth. Just ask Villanova and Michigan.

TheSouseFamily said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Richard__Lee said:

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calgo430 said:

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bring brown in and all is forgiven

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The other Brown (Jaylen) proved that a one-and-done talent, as fun as that is, doesn't lead to a high level of sustained program success. You have to land a bunch of recruits. Over and over. And be good at player management and game day tactics.

I don't know that anyone in this staff has the tactics down.

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Not only does it not lead to sustained program success, it did not even lead to one good season of success.

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This is true. Just look at the number one picks for this year and recent years. Arizona had a worse W/L record with Ayton. Washington had a MUCH worse W/L record with Fulltz. LSU had a worse record with Simmons. I'm not suggesting it's wise to pass on elite talent if you can get it; but it doesn't guarantee you anything at all. Winning teams are winning teams because they have a strong foundation, great coaches, program stability and depth. Just ask Villanova and Michigan.

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Well said. And it is about time somebody said it.

I'll still take the 5 stars, thanks.

bearister said:

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I believe J Kidd secured a degree from tRump University when he played for the Nets.

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Is this true?

What are we going to say?
"Sorry, you're too good for our program."

I suppose it wouldn't make sense to wait, and wait, and wait, for a player or two or three to decide if they were gonna come - because maybe they don't. So, if you want to argue that 1 solid 3-star in hand is worth more than maybe 1 sketchy 5-star in the bush, I'll agree. But I'll always take the greater athletic talent, all else being equal.

(Coaches will make their own determination to rankings, I understand. There is always more that goes into evaluations beyond just on the court stuff. Character counts. And other intangibles.)

bearister said:

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APRIL FOOLS!

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"Bearister , please stand next to
Oskidunker!"

oski003 said:

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bearister said:

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I believe J Kidd secured a degree from tRump University when he played for the Nets.

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Is this true?

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You're missing a couple clues:
1. "tRump". It's an insult, therefore a joke.
2. It's from Bearister, therefore a joke.

I've got some land in Florida to sell ya, Oski.

Blueblood said:

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bearister said:

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APRIL FOOLS!

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"Bearister , please stand next to
Oskidunker!"

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Why, Blueblood.
That's really an honor you bestow upon them.
We'll miss you, however.

concordtom said:

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I'll still take the 5 stars, thanks.

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You and Skiptomylu. Whatever happened to him?

concordtom said:

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I'll still take the 5 stars, thanks.

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I would too. But for me, the sweet spot, rankings-wise, is the 50-150 range. If we can have 3-5 of those guys on each roster (1 or 2 each recruiting cycle) who hang around for 3 or 4 years, I promise ya we'll be very good.

TheSouseFamily said:

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concordtom said:

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I'll still take the 5 stars, thanks.

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I would too. But for me, the sweet spot, rankings-wise, is the 50-150 range. If we can have 3-5 of those guys on each roster (1 or 2 each recruiting cycle) who hang around for 3 or 4 years, I promise ya we'll be very good.

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Souse:
3 to 5?
Dude, get greedy.
EVERY guy on your roster could/should be ranked 50-150!!
If you're doing it right.

SFCityBear said:

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concordtom said:

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I'll still take the 5 stars, thanks.

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You and Skiptomylu. Whatever happened to him?

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Where is the obit tab for BI?
I'm always looking for the bio pages, too. Of course, mine is empty, so...

I also agree that Both JB and IR gained little under Cunzo except getting a little bigger and stronger. A total waste of talent that you can see now, but was never apparent for the year they where there. I also watched a few of the Mizzo games, and felt Cunzo did little to maximize some pretty good talent .
The reason they refer to schools having a good program vs getting a couple one and dones, is your better off getting 4 good players into your program, and adding each year vs the one year wonders.