Chunger89 said:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/10/02/joel-brown-to-cal/
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/cal-lands-coveted-point-guard-joel-brown
We've got our point guard for '19!
I forget, did we win 6 or 8 games overall last season? Because I'm seeing this team going about 13-18 and 6-12 in conference, give or take. Still weak, but a significant step up from last season. The year after this, we get above .500.4thGenCal said:
This is an very good pt guard commit. Brown brings quickness, toughness and the all to often, lost skill of effective "drive and dish". He has sufficient height/length to be effective. This staff has done an excellent job this past off season in closing on a solid 3 recruit class and developing a still very young squad.
The reasonable report card should be assessed on doubling total wins from last season and then an expected first division finish in league play next season.
From the long video he looks very active, aware of where others are on the court, and able to get a shot off in traffic. Reminds me a bit of Brittany Boyd, though without that much strength. I think he will be a good point guard for us and he seems to be an excellent student.4thGenCal said:
This is an very good pt guard commit.
Chunger89 said:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/10/02/joel-brown-to-cal/
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/cal-lands-coveted-point-guard-joel-brown
We've got our point guard for '19!
I'm with you about the validity of rankings. Regardless of whether he's a 3* or 4*, he DOES appear to be a good fit for Cal. And THAT is a very important factor, that does not show up in the ratings. Charlie Moore was a fine PG, but he wasn't a good fit for Cal and left after one season. Given the choice between a 3* staying four seasons and a 4* leaving after one or two, I know what I'd prefer (obviously a 4*or 5* staying four years, but I think you get my drift).SFCityBear said:
I think it might be a little bit of a stretch to call him a 4-star recruit. ESPN, Rivals, and 247 composite all have him at 3 stars. Only 247's individual ranking gives him 4 stars. I'm not too impressed with the other schools who were after him. Maybe not quite as good as Charlie Moore, who was a legit 4 star, IMO, but Brown is not far behind Charlie, I'd expect. All that said, I have little faith in recruit rankings below the top 50 players. I do like the comments from his coach and from him. Hopefully, he can run a team. If he is a good defender, I'd love it. So few good defenders coming out of high school now.
I absolutely agree with all of what you say here.BeachedBear said:I'm with you about the validity of rankings. Regardless of whether he's a 3* or 4*, he DOES appear to be a good fit for Cal. And THAT is a very important factor, that does not show up in the ratings. Charlie Moore was a fine PG, but he wasn't a good fit for Cal and left after one season. Given the choice between a 3* staying four seasons and a 4* leaving after one or two, I know what I'd prefer (obviously a 4*or 5* staying four years, but I think you get my drift).SFCityBear said:
I think it might be a little bit of a stretch to call him a 4-star recruit. ESPN, Rivals, and 247 composite all have him at 3 stars. Only 247's individual ranking gives him 4 stars. I'm not too impressed with the other schools who were after him. Maybe not quite as good as Charlie Moore, who was a legit 4 star, IMO, but Brown is not far behind Charlie, I'd expect. All that said, I have little faith in recruit rankings below the top 50 players. I do like the comments from his coach and from him. Hopefully, he can run a team. If he is a good defender, I'd love it. So few good defenders coming out of high school now.
Per Brown, he had offers from Arizona State, Minnesota, Clemson, Seton Hall, Boise State and Rutgers.SFCityBear said:
I think it might be a little bit of a stretch to call him a 4-star recruit. ESPN, Rivals, and 247 composite all have him at 3 stars. Only 247's individual ranking gives him 4 stars. I'm not too impressed with the other schools who were after him. Maybe not quite as good as Charlie Moore, who was a legit 4 star, IMO, but Brown is not far behind Charlie, I'd expect. All that said, I have little faith in recruit rankings below the top 50 players. I do like the comments from his coach and from him. Hopefully, he can run a team. If he is a good defender, I'd love it. So few good defenders coming out of high school now.
I agree with most of what you say, but when I watch the very limited videos, I think he does not look quick. He seems to change directions well, and also to alter his speed, and that is how he gets by players rather than pure burst. He appears to be rangy at whatever height, I suspect 6'2'' in shoes, so that should not be a problem. I saw him referred to as Canadian Rajon Rondo, which may be a good comparison in terms of style if not quality.4thGenCal said:
This is an very good pt guard commit. Brown brings quickness, toughness and the all to often, lost skill of effective "drive and dish". He has sufficient height/length to be effective. This staff has done an excellent job this past off season in closing on a solid 3 recruit class and developing a still very young squad.
The reasonable report card should be assessed on doubling total wins from last season and then an expected first division finish in league play next season.
BeachedBear said:I'm with you about the validity of rankings. Regardless of whether he's a 3* or 4*, he DOES appear to be a good fit for Cal. And THAT is a very important factor, that does not show up in the ratings. Charlie Moore was a fine PG, but he wasn't a good fit for Cal and left after one season. Given the choice between a 3* staying four seasons and a 4* leaving after one or two, I know what I'd prefer (obviously a 4*or 5* staying four years, but I think you get my drift).SFCityBear said:
I think it might be a little bit of a stretch to call him a 4-star recruit. ESPN, Rivals, and 247 composite all have him at 3 stars. Only 247's individual ranking gives him 4 stars. I'm not too impressed with the other schools who were after him. Maybe not quite as good as Charlie Moore, who was a legit 4 star, IMO, but Brown is not far behind Charlie, I'd expect. All that said, I have little faith in recruit rankings below the top 50 players. I do like the comments from his coach and from him. Hopefully, he can run a team. If he is a good defender, I'd love it. So few good defenders coming out of high school now.