" Heartbreak & Glory" the history of intercollegiate men's basketball in the SF bay a

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last word above is area. written by Bernie Schneider, a 1955 Riordan grad and long-time high basketball coach, the 294 page book chronicles high school and college basketball in the bay area starting with 1928. must read for BB fans. Book is now in its second printing. I don't know if it's available at the library. I don't think so. Go to Amazon and buy a "used copy" for $20.00 or so and a "new copy" for around 40.oo. Great xmas gift for yourself or family friends. Starts around 1928. Also has a section called " the ones who got away." ( sound familiar?) These are the players who played in the Bay Area and left to pursue their college careers elsewhere. I(n the "revised edition", my Dad is listed as one of the players " who got away." Where did he go??College of the Pacific--located in Stockton. Not very far away , but still "away," ( millions of pictures too) book is oversized so it will consume many hours of fascinating reading. No stone is left unturned.
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helltopay1 said:

last word above is area. written by Bernie Schneider, a 1955 Riordan grad and long-time high basketball coach, the 294 page book chronicles high school and college basketball in the bay area starting with 1928. must read for BB fans. Book is now in its second printing. I don't know if it's available at the library. I don't think so. Go to Amazon and buy a "used copy" for $20.00 or so and a "new copy" for around 40.oo. Great xmas gift for yourself or family friends. Starts around 1928. Also has a section called " the ones who got away." ( sound familiar?) These are the players who played in the Bay Area and left to pursue their college careers elsewhere. I(n the "revised edition", my Dad is listed as one of the players " who got away." Where did he go??College of the Pacific--located in Stockton. Not very far away , but still "away," ( millions of pictures too) book is oversized so it will consume many hours of fascinating reading. No stone is left unturned.


Thanks. You may have found the perfect gift for my dad. Is there much in there on George Selleck Stanford '56?
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If no Stone is unturned, is Ericbear in there?
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Dear Calumnus: George Selleck used to be my favorite player. He grew up in the Richmond district in SF. His family transferred to Compton in Southern California where he became the CIF player of the years. I'm sure he would have gone to Washington High if not for the move.
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Dear Ursa Major: In the haas club room prior to the San Diego state game, I saw someone resembling an old hippie professor talking to Jay John. Was that you??You said that you talked to Jay John at the game. As I remember, the person seemed to be smaller than Jay.
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more George Selleck: Between 1999 and 2003 I played in the Nevada Senior Olympics. George Selleck played every year. He was part of a three-man team. He could still shoot and jump. I just thought of another terrific East Bay player who wound up at Stanford instead of Cal: Ron Tomsic. One night at the Cow Palace he poured in 40 points. Played guard.
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helltopay1 said:

Dear Calumnus: George Selleck used to be my favorite player. He grew up in the Richmond district in SF. His family transferred to Compton in Southern California where he became the CIF player of the years. I'm sure he would have gone to Washington High if not for the move.


Yes, Compton High inducted him into their Hall of Fame just last year.

He was CIF player of the year the year after having his patella shattered and removed after being knocked into a gym wall while driving baseline.

Was Bill Russell's roommate in New York for the East West All Star Game. West team included my dad, Russell, KCJones and UCLA's Willie Nawls.

I have lots of stories...

Is there much about him in the book?
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helltopay1 said:

more George Selleck: Between 1999 and 2003 I played in the Nevada Senior Olympics. George Selleck played every year. He was part of a three-man team. He could still shoot and jump. I just thought of another terrific East Bay player who wound up at Stanford instead of Cal: Ron Tomsic. One night at the Cow Palace he poured in 40 points. Played guard.


His nickname in the SF papers was "Mighty Mouse" he was 5'9" 150.

His Stanford freshman team beat USF's team with Bill Russell when he used a "fumbleruskie" play, driving towards the basket, he placed the ball on the ground near the top of the key with his left hand and continued as if still dribbling and going up for a left handed layup. Russell came over to block his "shot" while the Stanford center picked up the ball and made an uncontested layup on the right side.

When I was a kid growing up in LA he used to sometimes play in Jim Brown's pick up basketball games at his house in the Hollywood Hills on Sunday afternoons (after church, he had converted to Christianity and became a minister, as well as a PAC-8 ref). One day he came back from Jim Brown's house late, his leg in a cast. I ask "Dad what happened?" He says, "I took a charge from Jim Brown." I ask "Why would you do that?" He says "Because I had position."

More recently he played PG for Team USA in the Senior Olympics in Brazil. At one point against Argentina he dove on the ground for a loose ball. The other seniors just stared at him in disbelief.
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Calumnus: Selleck is your Dad???How awesome is that??
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I think he was actually 5/8 rather than 5/9.
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Kevin Foster, University of Santa Clara: He finished his collegiate career as Santa Clara's all-time leading scorer with 2,423 points, which is also the most in San Francisco Bay Area Division I history and second most in West Coast Conference history. Wikipedia
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helltopay1 said:

Calumnus: Selleck is your Dad???How awesome is that??


Thanks! Other than the fact he is a huge Stanford alum/fan, it is pretty awesome. And yes, he was probably was 5'8" in college. Shorter now.
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helltopay1 said:

more George Selleck: Between 1999 and 2003 I played in the Nevada Senior Olympics. George Selleck played every year. He was part of a three-man team. He could still shoot and jump. I just thought of another terrific East Bay player who wound up at Stanford instead of Cal: Ron Tomsic. One night at the Cow Palace he poured in 40 points. Played guard.
Tomsic: 3x all-conference. Played a key role on US Olympic Champion team.
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Just bought it on Amazon. Anybody out there remember Marvin Vitatoe? He was a serious baller.
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dear cal alumnus: can you verify that your Dad was born and raised in the richmond district in SF at least for a few years and would have gone to Washington High School if his parents didn't move? I heard that story growing up in SF.
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dear cal alumnus: can you verify that your Dad was born and raised in the richmond district in SF at least for a few years and would have gone to Washington High School if his parents didn't move? I heard that story growing up in SF.


My family had been in SF since the Gold Rush. My grandfather was a dentist. They lived on Clement in the Outer Richmond, near Lands End and were members of Temple Emanu-El. I don't know the schools. They moved to Compton when my dad was in junior high. My dad took with him his lifelong love of SF, the Giants, the Niners and Stanford.
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Almost positive he would have gone to Washington. He could have walked to school. And Washington had a fairly heavy jewish population---second only to Lowell High. So was your Dad an honor student at Compton???Pretty hard to get into Stanford. Did your Dad apply to any other colleges???
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