UrsaMajor said:
ColoradoBear said:
UrsaMajor said:
oskidunker said:
- Constant problems streaming. Everything else streams fine. They tell me it doesn't matter which provider you use to sign on. If this was on direct tv, we would not be having these problems.
Have checked verything. It's the pac 12. When Cal is on there are too many people on ,which degrades the stream. The demand is huge as all direct tv people everywhere are streaming. They either need to fix it or get a deal with directvtv. Another Larry Scott fail.
Unfortunately it's more likely that they'll lose Comcast than that they'll add Direct TV.
Saw somewhere that the cable deals were likely 10 yrs...
Actually, I think they expire around 2025, but not sure how binding, since Uverse just dropped P12.
We might be talking about different things, but by cable companies, I mean the original group of cable companies that picked up the P12N - Comcast, Time Warner (now owned by Charter and branded Spectrum), Cox, and Brighthouse. No way theses contracts extend past the Spring 2024 end of the ESPN/Fox primary rights deal because the P12 network itself depends on the primary TV deal agreement in that it gets the content the primary deal leaves out.
ATT Uverse was not an original partner and signed a 5 year deal. It's also not technically a cable provider, as ATT uses their phone landline network for Uverse - that's an important distinction in that they compete with Comcast for services in many areas including much of the Bay Area.
Anyway, the distinction is important because there were rumors the original cable companies provided significant start up assistance as part of the original deal. They also got this 'most favored customer' status which means the P12 has to match rates if they were to negotiate cheaper rates (aka with Directv). The original cable company deals likely ensured that P12 network would not lose money throughout the duration. Of course, it's also not making much money. Not sure going the DTV route first would have been viable - the rates they wanted to pay would likely not be even enough to cover expenses (thought cutting costs significantly is another way to profit).
If these cable carriage deals do end before the ESPN/Fox deal, I'd guess we'll find out by 2022 what the future of the P12N will be. I'm pretty skeptical the viewership right now really justifies the cable companies cost for the network, and with people cord cutting, money only shrinks.
