Cal-ASU game thread

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KenBurnski
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Why take grant out forever? Vanover is just automatic points given up
EricBear
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Monty is slipping. Just noticed Matt Bradley at the PG, and called him 6'6". Yikes.
HoopDreams
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dal9 said:

need to get the ball to kelly more...problem all year


Bears need to learn the bounce pass
calbearinamaze
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Yet another streaky PG.....Hot or not, we still have to have effort.
oskidunker
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Watching Sinbad
Go Bears!
calfanz
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Sueing hacked no call

Leads to a run out by them
EricBear
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EricBear
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Nice to see James Zhao on the bench (not suited up).
SmellinRoses
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Last fouls on Bradley (flop) and Vanover (barely made contact) were a joke. Refs can make these college games unwatchable. This game seems to be playing to form.

EricBear
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Agree with Monty that was an easy call against Justice on that foul. Problem was he was standing up and in no position to defend when he half-heartedly closed out, leading to penetration and the foul.
EricBear
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a7051
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Well, this second half made it easier to sneak out of my living room and go out for dinner. I'm just glad i didn't start heckling my ASU buddy via texts in the first half.
IssyBear
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I think a little work is need on our press.
ncbears
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Roman?
SmellinRoses
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Yes. When you're out of position (Sueing) like that - you'll get a foul called on you every time.
Yogi58
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ducky23 said:

Gosh if Harris Dyson could just develop some semblance of a jumper, cause he takes the ball so well to the rim
It's never going to happen
EricBear
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ncbears said:

Roman?


My goodness on those two shots...

Then misses both FTs. 0-4 on the year from the stripe.
SmellinRoses
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Disagree with Monty. Grant didn't keep hands straight up - he brought them down. An excuse for this poor officiating crew to call yet another foul. We're just seeing poor fundamental defense in man-to-man situations...
EricBear
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Monty doesn't do enough games to not know we are going to Washington next week. Not that it matters, just odd.
ncbears
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14 up to 14 down. Sigh
Econ141
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Coaching crew looks like a bunch of bozos at this point. Still don't know why I rush home to watch this hot garbage. See you all Saturday!!!! LOL
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Bisonbob
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The end of the first half and on to the second was like they forgot how they got up by 13. It looks like a long year!
HoopDreams
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EricBear said:

ncbears said:

Roman?


My goodness on those two shots...

Then misses both FTs. 0-4 on the year from the stripe.


Dyson was two for two on his next time to the line
bearister
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Vanover is not ready yet. Unless we are writing off the season, we cannot afford the luxury of a lot of minutes for him because they just do layups on him. How many points were scored on him under the basket? Roman Davis gets to the hoop. I assume he didn't finish because of game rust. What is the reason he doesn't play at all?
Golden One
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fat_slice said:

Coaching crew looks like a bunch of bozos at this point. Still don't know why I rush home to watch this hot garbage. See you all Saturday!!!! LOL
I've been silent thus far during all of the back and forth on this site regarding Wyking Jones, but after tonight's debacle, I'm convinced he has to go, and the sooner the better. Jones was so out-coached by Hurley tonight that it's outright embarrassing. Our Bears got off to a fast start tonight, going up by 14 points. Then Hurley made adjustments, and Jones was totally incapable of effectively counteracting those adjustments. Our 14 point advantage dropped to 2 at halftime, and to a 14 point deficit later in the game. Plus, with about 5 minutes remaining in the game and victory still a possibility, he puts in Roman Davis and Harris-Dyson for the rest of the game, neither of who can score, and sits Justice Sueing, who can score. Then, he insists on playing a full court press, which our guys are totally incapable of effectively executing, resulting in an easy 10 points off the press by ASU. It's time to hire a real D1 coach.
Golden One
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bearister said:

Vanover is not ready yet. Unless we are writing off the season, we cannot afford the luxury of a lot of minutes for him because they just do layups on him. How many points were scored on him under the basket? Roman Davis gets to the hoop. I assume he didn't finish because of game rust. What is the reason he doesn't play at all?
Because he is incapable of scoring. Davis is a real offensive liability.
EricBear
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HoopDreams said:

EricBear said:

ncbears said:

Roman?


My goodness on those two shots...

Then misses both FTs. 0-4 on the year from the stripe.


Dyson was two for two on his next time to the line



We were talking about Roman Davis. And yes, he hit 1-2 FTs after these comments. Now 1-5 on the year.

JHD did in fact hit 2 FTs. That's good.
touchdownbears43
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Did we fire Wyking yet?
bearister
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Golden One said:

bearister said:

Vanover is not ready yet. Unless we are writing off the season, we cannot afford the luxury of a lot of minutes for him because they just do layups on him. How many points were scored on him under the basket? Roman Davis gets to the hoop. I assume he didn't finish because of game rust. What is the reason he doesn't play at all?
Because he is incapable of scoring. Davis is a real offensive liability.

Thanks. I don't remember seeing him play enough to make much of an assessment. Didn't he have one decent game last year?
EricBear
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Roman went nuts against WSU last year.



Yogi58
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bearister said:

Vanover is not ready yet. Unless we are writing off the season, we cannot afford the luxury of a lot of minutes for him because they just do layups on him.
Why wouldn't we be writing off the season? The only person who stands to lose from it is Wyking and he's dead man walking.
bearister
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Thanks for that, Eric. I knew there was a reason I thought he had talent. I wonder what happened? We could really use that version of Roman now. Maybe like Theo, he just doesn't dig the coach and that guarantees a dead end.
HoopDreams
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I always root for Davis, but he just doesn't have good basketball instincts and skills.
He is athletic, but he just never seems to be in the right position, and his fundamentals are poor.

He had an easy 6 footer which he shot badly to the right. That's because his shooting form is bad (same issue with his FTs).

He has improved and now can get to the rack, but he still dribbles too high and he isn't a strong finisher. There was one play where he blew by his man and missed a bunny at the hoop. He was frustrated with himself and ran down court on defense. But you can tell he still had his miss in his head because he was guarding now one, and his man was wide open on the wing. Fortunately Remy never looked his way so there was no harm.



HoopDreams
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EricBear said:

HoopDreams said:

EricBear said:

ncbears said:

Roman?


My goodness on those two shots...

Then misses both FTs. 0-4 on the year from the stripe.


Dyson was two for two on his next time to the line



We were talking about Roman Davis. And yes, he hit 1-2 FTs after these comments. Now 1-5 on the year.

JHD did in fact hit 2 FTs. That's good.
oic. sorry
EricBear
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HoopDreams said:

EricBear said:

Is this game uglier than the Cheez-It Bowl?


No


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