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concordtom
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There are about as many posts about the 49ers draft on the basketball board than there are about the game vs Arizona.
Wow. Tells you something about enthusiasm level toward our team.
BeachedBear
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concordtom said:

SFCityBear said:

joe amos yaks said:

LB Bosa would fit SF's "Rustbelt" ownership.
Or maybe he should switch to baseball and play for the Giants' ownership.
Whatever happened to the days when a number of athletes played TWO professional sports? Why would this be hard to do? Many football players are specialists, and only play a few plays per game. Baseball players don't have to stay in great shape. I watched a game last season and I saw a player who appeared to be asleep in the dugout. And basketball has so many timeouts and substitutions, players can't be getting too tired. When we were kids, we all played three or more sports, and the best athletes were usually good in all three. Today, I hardly ever see kids playing in the streets or even in the playgrounds anymore. I mean, are cell phones really all that interesting and exciting?
Sorry, but I will pull rank on you here.
Kids today practice WAAAAAY more than in my era or your era.

At my daughters' high school, the football players show up at 6:45 for before school workouts. Class at 8, and period 1 is, you guessed it - football until 9:20. They have 3 more core classes plus lunch and study hall until class gets out at 3. After school it's football until 6. That's about 5:30 of football per day vs about 4 of actual school.
Sports used to be an "extracurricular" activity. Now it's the main thing.

Kids are encouraged to specialize in sports at a young age. Soccer is year round. Ballet is no different.
It's not healthy and a joke. But if you don't commit, you won't keep up and make the squad of your desire, unless you are a total and complete stud at age 12.

As that guy from Ohio State said a few years ago, "We ain't come here for school."

I don't always agree with CT, but he nailed it this time. However, adding a couple of points from my experience raising kids in Moraga:

1. This singular focus on sports predates the cell phone era - or at least the point where kids had tablets or phones.
2. The sports focus has also made the disparity between 'rec' and 'competitive' so large that a 10 year old, with moderate field vision, gets bored and frustrated playing in the rec level, then gets overwhelmed and discouraged (for not committing enough) at the competitive level. Not enough middle-ground to encourage exercise, teamwork and balance IMHO. The days of shooting hoops on the playground and pick up games is gone in suburbia.
3. I was actually berated more than once in Moraga for letting my kids out in the neighborhood without direct supervision. In fact, one over-zealous parent threatened to call the authorities on me for being a bad-parent and not restricting my children to supervised 'play dates' or organized after school activities. Not sure everywhere is like Moraga, but it is a symptom of some misguided parenting IMHO.
stu
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BeachedBear said:

I was actually berated more than once in Moraga for letting my kids out in the neighborhood without direct supervision. In fact, one over-zealous parent threatened to call the authorities on me for being a bad-parent and not restricting my children to supervised 'play dates' or organized after school activities. Not sure everywhere is like Moraga, but it is a symptom of some misguided parenting IMHO.
That's sad. I was a kid in Lafayette in the 1950s. I could go by myself or with friends anywhere I wanted under these conditions:
* I had to walk, no soccer mom with a SUV.
* I had to say where I was going.
* I had to be back by dinner time.
I never had a problem, other than once or twice being late for dinner. That was corrected.
helltopay1
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Dear Bearister: Do you realize that you just confirmed my critique?
BeachedBear
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stu said:

BeachedBear said:

I was actually berated more than once in Moraga for letting my kids out in the neighborhood without direct supervision. In fact, one over-zealous parent threatened to call the authorities on me for being a bad-parent and not restricting my children to supervised 'play dates' or organized after school activities. Not sure everywhere is like Moraga, but it is a symptom of some misguided parenting IMHO.
That's sad. I was a kid in Lafayette in the 1950s. I could go by myself or with friends anywhere I wanted under these conditions:
* I had to walk, no soccer mom with a SUV.
* I had to say where I was going.
* I had to be back by dinner time.
I never had a problem, other than once or twice being late for dinner. That was corrected.
Yup. I grew up in the 70's and it was be home before the street lights go on. In fact, in the summers, my mother would 'kick me out' - tell me to hop on my bike and go explore the neighborhood when I was probably 8 years old (she was from Manhattan and had a different sense of neighborhood, but still...). I learned a lot from those explorations, like

  • How to engage conversationally with people of varying ages and backgrounds.
  • The local flavor of my neighborhood and potential spots for future investigation.
  • How to manage my own happiness and not rely on others for personal fulfillment.
  • Be alert and manage my personal safety (turn around because that group of people are known thugs).

Ya know, basic humanity!

And yes, two weeks into basketball season and we have devolved to this OT rambling (sorry folks).
helltopay1
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Dear Stu: Touche. ( I would have added the accent on the e but my keyboard doesn't have one) I grew up in SF in the 40's and 50's and my Mother considered herself lucky if I told her where I was going. i was usually on time for the meals, and, then, after the meal, I often raced out the door again. The only organized activity was CYO and High School practice after school for 1-2 hours. Nobody died. Nobody got hurt. Of course, there were the usual fights on the playground or sidewalks, but that's just boys being boys.
helltopay1
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Dear CT: Nope: If you are a real sports fan, you can discuss thge 49ers and zone defenses in the same conversation.
helltopay1
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most scouts have the 49eres taking Josh Allan with the second pick. Allan had a terrific bowl game. As a result, he jumped from being labeled a pick somewhere between 16-20 to the #2 pick. You have to be careful with the performance in just one game. Solomon Thomas was labeled a late first-rounder and then had a great game against North Carolina. Lynch was so impressed with that one-game performance that he took Solomon with the #3 pick. OOPS!!!!Solomon is in danger of being cut for being a huge bust relative to where he was selected. The lesson here is that you have to look at the whole body of work over an entire career.
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