Show is noon-1pm
Luckily the Lakers are free to search after the game on 4/9.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
I really believe Jason would be Cuonzo 2.0. That would be bad. I want a coach that has his players knowing exactly what to do. That's been missing for 5 seasons even with NBA prospects all over the place.Civil Bear said:
If he wants to come to Cal because there are no good NBA gigs available, then no thanks. If he wants to come to Cal because his competitive nature makes him think he can make Cal relevant again, then I am all in.
I just think that this ignores that he coached for 4 years in the NBA. He was, in a lot of ways, the on floor coach since he was 12. He fundamentally understands the game in pretty deep ways.KoreAmBear said:I really believe Jason would be Cuonzo 2.0. That would be bad. I want a coach that has his players knowing exactly what to do. That's been missing for 5 seasons even with NBA prospects all over the place.Civil Bear said:
If he wants to come to Cal because there are no good NBA gigs available, then no thanks. If he wants to come to Cal because his competitive nature makes him think he can make Cal relevant again, then I am all in.
At least they could trade Pete Newell storiesBobodeluxe said:
Eighty something and dead to boot. Pass.
Not my point at all. Wouldn't you rather have Gina Lollobrigida if you were her first choice?helltopay1 said:
Dear Civil: If Marilyn Monroe agrees to come to my house for the weekend after being turned down by several other suitors, I think I'm going to swallow my pride and invite her over. Just me......
Civil Bear said:Not my point at all. Wouldn't you rather have Gina Lollobrigida if you were her first choice?helltopay1 said:
Dear Civil: If Marilyn Monroe agrees to come to my house for the weekend after being turned down by several other suitors, I think I'm going to swallow my pride and invite her over. Just me......
If Kidd comes to Cal until to tide him over until something better comes along, then no thanks. If he's here because he wants the challenge then I think he could be highly successful.
+1MilleniaBear said:
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One tidbit about Kidd that gives me pause is his connection to Bozeman - a known cheat at the collegiate level. Kidd might be of the same mind.
That's a stretch. Would you say the same thing about Shareef? Brian Hendrick?MilleniaBear said:
Would Walton be another name to add to our list if he does get fired by the Lakers? He is from the Poppovich coaching tree and would be available immediately.
One tidbit about Kidd that gives me pause is his connection to Bozeman - a known cheat at the collegiate level. Kidd might be of the same mind.
Hmmmm......WOuld have to pull the BI history book out but I am not sure we had great names on the list when Monty retired. Getting Martin seemed like Mana from heaven as again, Cal was/is a hard place to sell.BeachedBear said:
Lots of speculation, followed by conclusions about Kidd; his coaching chops and personal history. The search is on and if he is on the list, then he should be compared to other candidates and weighed accordingly. It's not hire Kidd or no one else. Unlike others on the list, Kidd has a lot of unique qualifiers - including Cal legend who already has made lots of money in basketball - AND donated significant amounts to the program already.
Maybe he'll give us the alumni discount on salary as long as we pay his assistants competitively. He could also chip in for the facility and put his name on the door or something.
Following Monty's retirement, I was surprised by the Cuonzo hire, but it seemed to be a good one at the time. I have my criticisms of Cuonzo as a coach, but his other issues (like the Bakersfield FU), I have come to accept as a reflection of how much Cal was a 'clown show' at the time (or whatever Shocky was calling it).
Following Cuonzo's departure, the Jones hire was nothing more than ludicrous and more clown show fodder.
I think if we were given today's candidate list after Monty's retirement, we would dismissive of most of those on it - including Kidd. Goes to show you how far we've fallen that now we're concerned if any of them would take the job, if offered.
I recall DeCuire and Turner being mentioned then as well as now.BeachedBear said:
I think if we were given today's candidate list after Monty's retirement, we would dismissive of most of those on it - including Kidd. Goes to show you how far we've fallen that now we're concerned if any of them would take the job, if offered.
Jason Kidd very articulate? Sorry I missed it.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
Not sure if you're referring to the above mentioned interview or your general perception. I've spoken with Jason a number of times since he was in high school. Most recently last year. Like most people, they grow and often become more articulate as they mature. He suffers from many of us having watched him for the last 25 years - but mostly in his youth, not recently.SFCityBear said:Jason Kidd very articulate? Sorry I missed it.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
Yeah, wasn't DeCuire -- the pre-Montana version -- first runner-up?stu said:I recall DeCuire and Turner being mentioned then as well as now.BeachedBear said:
I think if we were given today's candidate list after Monty's retirement, we would dismissive of most of those on it - including Kidd. Goes to show you how far we've fallen that now we're concerned if any of them would take the job, if offered.
He's plenty articulate. That comes with the territory of having to do pressers throughout his playing and coaching career. Same with Wilcox, he's gotten a lot better. At his first presser for us he looked like a nervous high school kid.BeachedBear said:Not sure if you're referring to the above mentioned interview or your general perception. I've spoken with Jason a number of times since he was in high school. Most recently last year. Like most people, they grow and often become more articulate as they mature. He suffers from many of us having watched him for the last 25 years - but mostly in his youth, not recently.SFCityBear said:Jason Kidd very articulate? Sorry I missed it.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
I was referring to Ducky's description. It piqued my interest. I like to listen to articulate people, especially any of my favorite players or coaches. Nothing more than that.BeachedBear said:Not sure if you're referring to the above mentioned interview or your general perception. I've spoken with Jason a number of times since he was in high school. Most recently last year. Like most people, they grow and often become more articulate as they mature. He suffers from many of us having watched him for the last 25 years - but mostly in his youth, not recently.SFCityBear said:Jason Kidd very articulate? Sorry I missed it.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
Got it.SFCityBear said:I was referring to Ducky's description. It piqued my interest. I like to listen to articulate people, especially any of my favorite players or coaches. Nothing more than that.BeachedBear said:Not sure if you're referring to the above mentioned interview or your general perception. I've spoken with Jason a number of times since he was in high school. Most recently last year. Like most people, they grow and often become more articulate as they mature. He suffers from many of us having watched him for the last 25 years - but mostly in his youth, not recently.SFCityBear said:Jason Kidd very articulate? Sorry I missed it.ducky23 said:
So I guess I was the only one to see the interview, it was well worth the watch
- Kidd has come a long way from 360 degree Jason. He is very articulate, thoughtful and personable
- ESPN showed several choice Kidd highlights while in a Cal uniform, was cool to see
- First question from Rachel Nicols was "I do want to start though with the vacant head coaching job at Cal". Kidd was complimentary towards Cal, but obviously didn't want to commit to anything. One interesting nugget is that he implied during his time off he spent some time hanging out with kids on the AAU circuit
- When questioned about the Lakers job, Kidd was again non-committal (obviously) but did say he was going to be patient during this process and wait till the season is over to see what opportunities come up. Which implies he's probably going to want to wait to see what happens with the Lakers before making a decision about Cal.
I do hope that whoever is doing this search takes advantage of the program's relationship with Kerr, and with Montgomery, to get some serious input regarding candidates.socaltownie said:
I just think that this ignores that he coached for 4 years in the NBA. He was, in a lot of ways, the on floor coach since he was 12. He fundamentally understands the game in pretty deep ways.
Can he teach? Who knows. But unlike Zo - who honestly was more of a "you gotta have passion" guy and one who believed his own PERSONAL story could translate to other's desire Jason Kidd CLEARLY understands Basketball principles.
But I didn't watch the Bucks. Maybe it just wasn't there. I would have to see a ton of tape and try to understand if it was possible to see what they were or were not doing. I know that should be something JK is trying to gauge.
Steve Kerr would be a great asset in this respect. I hope JK has a relationship to get his insights in a deep, thoughtful and lengthy way and and as a Cal dad clearly understands a lot about the program.
(Had to check - Kerr's time in Phoenix didn't overlap with Jason but he was a GM in the league during Kidd's peak and then coached against him for 2 years. He just would HAVE to have a really well formed opinion on it and just seems like the kind of guy that would give really good, unbiased assessments).