When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
If you look back farther to 1939, two years after Cal's Thunder Team whipped Alabama in the Rose Bowl, the Bears did play UC Davis at Memorial Stadium as part of a pre-season double header, and the both the Bears and the Aggies claimed victory when it was over:helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
It was not easy finding the records, but St. Mary's Pre-Flight was probably a formidable opponent. The next year. 1944, they were ranked #19 in the final AP College Poll, and beat Cal that year also, 33-6.joe amos yaks said:
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Yes, the "old days".
1943 -- Saint Mary's Pre-Flight beat Cal 39-0.
In the old days and today, I would have posted these "football comments" on the football board and not the men's basketball board. ????? Somebody should be embarrassed. Hmmmmm.helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
Wow. Your Dad played for COP. They had some good teams. And Joe Kapp won't forget how COP's Dick Bass gained 220 yards as they beat Cal's '58 Rose Bowl bound team in first game of the season at Memorial. I remember going to that game and remember Bass having a big day, but credit for the stat and story has to go to Joe Amos Yaks in a 3 year old post I found on the Bear Insider forum.helltopay1 said:
as j. mcenroe would say, " You have got to be kidding me." In 1934, when my Dad played for COP, cal beat COP 7-6 at Memorial.
Lighten up. It's all Cal, and any thing Cal-related is good here, isn't it?SFCALBear72 said:In the old days and today, I would have posted these "football comments" on the football board and not the men's basketball board. ????? Somebody should be embarrassed. Hmmmmm.helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
Hahaha. OK. If you say so. Two football boards and this lands here is all I'm saying.SFCityBear said:Lighten up. It's all Cal, and any thing Cal-related is good here, isn't it?SFCALBear72 said:In the old days and today, I would have posted these "football comments" on the football board and not the men's basketball board. ????? Somebody should be embarrassed. Hmmmmm.helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
Of course, Cal Davis has grown up quite a lot since you were a kid and Cal Berkeley has, with periodic exceptions, struggled to maintain relevance in the revenue sports.helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
OT -- More on the "old days".SFCityBear said:It was not easy finding the records, but St. Mary's Pre-Flight was probably a formidable opponent. The next year. 1944, they were ranked #19 in the final AP College Poll, and beat Cal that year also, 33-6.joe amos yaks said:
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Yes, the "old days".
1943 -- Saint Mary's Pre-Flight beat Cal 39-0.
Very interesting. I was too young to appreciate football then, but my dad told me a little about them.joe amos yaks said:OT -- More on the "old days".SFCityBear said:It was not easy finding the records, but St. Mary's Pre-Flight was probably a formidable opponent. The next year. 1944, they were ranked #19 in the final AP College Poll, and beat Cal that year also, 33-6.joe amos yaks said:
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Yes, the "old days".
1943 -- Saint Mary's Pre-Flight beat Cal 39-0.
That 1944 St. Mary's Pre-Flight team (AP #19) lost (0-6) to $uSC in a game played in Fresno (?), but they also beat Ucla (21-13) in LA.
StM Pre-Flight played three seasons (1942, '43 and '44) and the program ended at the end of WW-2. The rosters were made up of mostly college players from all over the country who were entering the Navy system.
My uncle played end at uU and was on the 1943 StMP-F team before flying off the "new" USS Hornet-2 in the Pacific theater.
Btw -- For those who remember, there used to be a landing / take-off strip at the St Mary's College campus (and a few SNJ's during the war) -- parallel to Moraga Road me thinkest.
There is no such school as "Cal Davis." There is a UC Davis, but there is only one CAL.59bear said:Of course, Cal Davis has grown up quite a lot since you were a kid and Cal Berkeley has, with periodic exceptions, struggled to maintain relevance in the revenue sports.helltopay1 said:
When I was a kid , if Cal played UC Davis at Memorial Stadium, Cal would have won 65-3 with Cal playing their third-stringers in the fourth quarter. 27-13 at Memorial Stadium?????????somebody needs to be embarrassed .
Thanks. I should have known U meant Utah. Your uncle must have been quite a guy.joe amos yaks said:
uU is the University of Utah, those "Runnin' Utes", Salt Lake City, UT.
OE in football and threw discus T&F.
The couple of times I have visited the Hornet-2 in Alameda, I have found myself standing on the deck and thinking about how many pilots took off from that flight deck....and never came back.joe amos yaks said:
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Pilot (Corsairs, USS Hornet-2, WW-2; Corsairs, USS Princeton, Korean Conflict)
Navy flight instructor out of Mainside / Cory Field in Pensacola, FL.
Assistant Coach (Receivers) Pensacola Goshawks (1955-58) Navy team.
MATS C-130's, Moffett Field to SE Asia, 'Nam and back.
Taught at Rice U, at Norfolk, and at Canada Community College, CA.
Grew Rainier cherries in Sunnyvale, CA. Such is the life a career Navy pilot.
"Roger dodger, over under and out." -- A good Man.
OT--MSaviolives said:The couple of times I have visited the Hornet-2 in Alameda, I have found myself standing on the deck and thinking about how many pilots took off from that flight deck....and never came back.joe amos yaks said:
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Joe,joe amos yaks said:
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Pilot (Corsairs, USS Hornet-2, WW-2; Corsairs, USS Princeton, Korean Conflict)
Navy flight instructor out of Mainside / Cory Field in Pensacola, FL.
Assistant Coach (Receivers) Pensacola Goshawks (1955-58) Navy team.
MATS C-130's, Moffett Field to SE Asia, 'Nam and back.
Taught at Rice U, at Norfolk, and at Canada Community College, CA.
Grew Rainier cherries in Sunnyvale, CA. Such is the life a career Navy pilot.
"Roger dodger, over under and out." -- A good Man.
I have had this book in my Kindle queue for a few months, and expect to start it before the end of the year. Down to the Seajoe amos yaks said:OT--MSaviolives said:The couple of times I have visited the Hornet-2 in Alameda, I have found myself standing on the deck and thinking about how many pilots took off from that flight deck....and never came back.joe amos yaks said:
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Hornet-1 (Yorktown class) was the 7th ship to be called "Hornet". She was launched (December 1940) at Newport News, VA, and sunk 27 October 1942. She was in service for only one year + 6 days before being sunk in the Solomon Islands (Battle of Santa Cruz Islands). 140 lives lost.
Hornet-2 (larger Essex class) was launched (August 1943) in Newport News, VA. It sailed to the Pacific theater to battle in the Philippine Sea. A crew of 3,003 (officers and enlisted). She was decommissioned in 1947; recommissioned in 1953 and decommissioned again in 1970.
Pilot Lt. E.G__ (1943-45) was aboard the Hornet-2 when the bow of the ship was slammed by a huge wave during a typhoon in the Philippine Sea in June 1945. The ship had to be run in reverse in order to launch planes off the stern end until repairs were made to 25 feet of collapsed bow flight deck. The USS Bennington sustained similar damage.
Altogether six men were killed on the two carriers during the storm; 76 airplanes were destroyed or lost overboard and 70 were damaged.
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This epic story opens at the hour the Greatest Generation went to war on December 7, 1941, and follows four U.S. Navy ships and their crews in the Pacific until their day of reckoning three years later with a far different enemy: a deadly typhoon. In December 1944, while supporting General MacArthur's invasion of the Philippines, Admiral William "Bull" Halsey neglected the Law of Storms, placing the mighty U.S. Third Fleet in harm's way. Drawing on extensive interviews with nearly every living survivor and rescuer, as well as many families of lost sailors, transcripts and other records from naval courts of inquiry, ships' logs, personal letters, and diaries, Bruce Henderson finds some of the story's truest heroes exhibiting selflessness, courage, and even defiance.
As a little kid growing up, I used to save my pennies and when I had enough, I would go down to the local hobby shop and purchase a model airplane kit to put together. I made a Corsair, a Hellcat, a P-51 Mustang, and an F-86 Sabre, and many others, along with many ship models, a carrier, battleship, a cruiser. Most were solid wood models, but I did make a P-40 Warhawk out of balsa that did fly. In wood shop class, we all made a working model of a submarine, which we would load with a payload of rocks and a trigger. In the bathtub, it would sink and when it reach bottom a trigger would trip, doors would open, and the rocks would fall out, and the wooden sub would rise to the surface.joe amos yaks said:
"In 1963 I left Cal for a semester and a summer to work and . . . "
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Great story. Thank you for sharing your stories and experiences.
E.G__ never flew jets in combat. He never flew the F8U Crusaders; however, he did fly jets -- F-86 Sabres and the F-80 -- post-Korea.
His carrier based combat planes were prop' driven -- the F4U Corsair (Vought) fighter-bomber and the F6F Hellcat (Grumman) fighter. At the end of his career he was flying C-130's (Lockheed-Martin) for MATS.
Btw -- he did coach a service team (football) at Norfolk (~1965), but I'm not familiar with that episode.
Those things fly back and forth to Livermore Memorial Day weekend (I am pretty sure) They go right over my house every year. I think you can buy a ride, if I am not mistaken...MSaviolives said:
I have a 97 year old family friend living in Rossmoor who was radioman in B-17s flying out of Italy over Europe--50 missions, including some terrible missions over the Ploesti oil fields and Germany. I had the sublime pleasure of taking him to the Wings of Freedom show at Concord's Buchanan Field in May, and got him into their B-17, where he held court as awed families filed by him in the plane as he reminisced.
I was terrified he would fall when I boosted him up into the plane, but he was game, and we got him in and out without incident. It was just a magical day. God Bless our veterans.
You can buy a ride--the price was $400. I asked my friend if he wanted to do the ride, but he declined, joking about the lack of excitement if they weren't going to be shot at during the flight.Go!Bears said:Those things fly back and forth to Livermore Memorial Day weekend (I am pretty sure) They go right over my house every year. I think you can buy a ride, if I am not mistaken...MSaviolives said:
I have a 97 year old family friend living in Rossmoor who was radioman in B-17s flying out of Italy over Europe--50 missions, including some terrible missions over the Ploesti oil fields and Germany. I had the sublime pleasure of taking him to the Wings of Freedom show at Concord's Buchanan Field in May, and got him into their B-17, where he held court as awed families filed by him in the plane as he reminisced.
I was terrified he would fall when I boosted him up into the plane, but he was game, and we got him in and out without incident. It was just a magical day. God Bless our veterans.
I once represented one of the dive bomber pilots who was on the Hornet during that event. He had some great stories (but, after the War, although he started college somewhere in the South, he finished at Stanford - He was still a great guy though)joe amos yaks said:OT--MSaviolives said:The couple of times I have visited the Hornet-2 in Alameda, I have found myself standing on the deck and thinking about how many pilots took off from that flight deck....and never came back.joe amos yaks said:
OT --
Hornet-1 (Yorktown class) was the 7th ship to be called "Hornet". She was launched (December 1940) at Newport News, VA, and sunk 27 October 1942. She was in service for only one year + 6 days before being sunk in the Solomon Islands (Battle of Santa Cruz Islands). 140 lives lost.
Hornet-2 (larger Essex class) was launched (August 1943) in Newport News, VA. It sailed to the Pacific theater to battle in the Philippine Sea. A crew of 3,003 (officers and enlisted). She was decommissioned in 1947; recommissioned in 1953 and decommissioned again in 1970.
Pilot Lt. E.G__ (1943-45) was aboard the Hornet-2 when the bow of the ship was slammed by a huge wave during a typhoon in the Philippine Sea in June 1945. The ship had to be run in reverse in order to launch planes off the stern end until repairs were made to 25 feet of collapsed bow flight deck. The USS Bennington sustained similar damage.
Altogether six men were killed on the two carriers during the storm; 76 airplanes were destroyed or lost overboard and 70 were damaged.
Joe,joe amos yaks said:
OT -- thee W's
Great photo in the green (SF Chron sports, p.1) this morning: Cotton Nash (uK/Rupp) and Guy Rodgers of the W's vs Jerry West, Leroy Ellis and Darryl Imhoff (+other LA) of the Lakers playing at SF Civic (1964).
Thank you, BJ.
BTW- We (me + 2 from uSF) were in the "crowd" of 1,500 vs the Knicks at the Richmond Auditorium (1964).