annarborbear said:

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gljone said:

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The NC State game will be fun to see.

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This should be a breakthrough game for attendance. Spend money to advertise. Give away tickets. Look at it as a chance to build future fans.

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annarborbear said:

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gljone said:

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The NC State game will be fun to see.

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This should be a breakthrough game for attendance. Spend money to advertise. Give away tickets. Look at it as a chance to build future fans.

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blungld said:

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Shocky1 said:

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understood and those bad calls go both ways, marta crashed into opposing defenders multiple times and jayda pushed opposing offensive players without fouls being called & the bears probably lead the nation in uncalled moving screen fouls

there's no money in sports book betting for collegiate women's basketball, the refs are not biased for either team

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I don't think the ongoing claim is cheating or fixing, though some may have said this (mostly as a joke or to vent?). I think it is simple frustration and "discussing" amongst like-minded peers to identify obvious errors and their impact. What is the point of being a fan if you don't have the right and passion to complain and cheer for coaching decisions, player performance, and refs? There literally is no sport without spectators involvement--and we can't get on the court, we can only kvetch about what goes on on the court/field. It's not the enterprise of losers, it is the enterprise of being a non-participant.

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blungld said:

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mbBear said:

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blungld said:

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Shocky1 said:

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understood and those bad calls go both ways, marta crashed into opposing defenders multiple times and jayda pushed opposing offensive players without fouls being called & the bears probably lead the nation in uncalled moving screen fouls

there's no money in sports book betting for collegiate women's basketball, the refs are not biased for either team

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I don't think the ongoing claim is cheating or fixing, though some may have said this (mostly as a joke or to vent?). I think it is simple frustration and "discussing" amongst like-minded peers to identify obvious errors and their impact. What is the point of being a fan if you don't have the right and passion to complain and cheer for coaching decisions, player performance, and refs? There literally is no sport without spectators involvement--and we can't get on the court, we can only kvetch about what goes on on the court/field. It's not the enterprise of losers, it is the enterprise of being a non-participant.

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Without a doubt, a good post. But I have always hated the complaining about refs stuff, so in a straightforward way, I agree with Shocky Play better, don't make it come down to calls.
But, no question, frustration is all part of it...

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Of course play better should overcome bad calls (not always)...but the point is we are not the players. "We" can't play better. We are watching the game...and talking about the game. We are not telling the players not to play better, or telling them to complain about the refs, or providing them with excuses, or communicating with the refs...the only thing we are doing is talking amongst ourselves. Are we supposed not comment to one another when there is an obvious bad call? I think the weaksauce/loser criticism may come from people who forget that they are not playing and that being a spectator has zero effect on the outcome, that their ego, superstition, and vicarious experience has taken over their common sense.

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