Recently had Australian center on recruiting trip. Parents liked Berkeley. Progress? And others?
Recruiting news?
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Much like football recruiting, the student athletes have to make their commitment announcements public before the coaching staff can comment.
Football and Men's basketball have "recruiting" information on this site. I am not asking for premature commitment, but knowing who is being recruited would be interesting.
Still on the 2025 radar according to Raoul's WBB Blog:
Brooklynn Charlo, 6' Guard, Thornton Colorado (attends high school in Florida); offered 6/24.
Ashlynn Chlarson, 6'2 Post, junior college sophomore, Eastern Arizona College, offered 11/24.
Player(s) from transfer portal expected as well.
Brooklynn Charlo, 6' Guard, Thornton Colorado (attends high school in Florida); offered 6/24.
Ashlynn Chlarson, 6'2 Post, junior college sophomore, Eastern Arizona College, offered 11/24.
Player(s) from transfer portal expected as well.
That sounds pretty promising given Twidale's already on the roster.bearchamp said:
Recently had Australian center on recruiting trip. Parents liked Berkeley. Progress? And others?
Believe it or not, I think that there are more Aussies playing women's basketball than any other nationality. The local teams all seem to have one or more on their rosters.
I think I heard of Charlson, just couldn't remember her name.
I went to the St Mary's/Santa Clara WBB game last Saturday in Moraga. It was Australian night! They gave out small flags, which the many very young girl scouts waved with joy! The Australian National Anthem was also played. One of Santa Clara's Australian players was a grad transfer from St. Mary's. Santa Clara won in OT. St, Mary's won in OT earlier in the season at Santa Clara. Lulu is a Charming Aussie BEAR......so glad she came to Cal!Schroeder71 said:
Believe it or not, I think that there are more Aussies playing women's basketball than any other nationality. The local teams all seem to have one or more on their rosters.
When i was in Canada seeing a minor league baseball game. They played Oh Canada and then our national anthem. They knew all the words to ours. How many of us could repeat the words to Oh Canada.
I understand.bearchamp said:
Football and Men's basketball have "recruiting" information on this site. I am not asking for premature commitment, but knowing who is being recruited would be interesting.
But maybe you should ask the Mods here if they can add women's basketball "recruiting" information to this site given the year Charmin, the staff and players are having now. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor.
I assume the "Mods" read these posts. Additionally, why is weight of male athletes listed in the roster, but not the female athletes???
I paid for awhile but after posting on the recruiting board (Premium) a question about women's basketball, it would lie there for 2 months with no answer.
Why does weight matter? In football yes but I don't think listing weight of basketball players is relevant to much.
CalWSportsFan said:
Why does weight matter? In football yes but I don't think listing weight of basketball players is relevant to
RedlessWardrobe said:Really? Two women the same height go up for a rebound, one weighs 160 the other 120, Gonna make a difference quite frequentlyCalWSportsFan said:
Why does weight matter? In football yes but I don't think listing weight of basketball players is relevant to much.
In men's basketball a 6-7, 265 lb player will probably have a different game than a 7-3, 225 lb player (comparing Markhuri Sanders-Frison and Connor Vanover).CalWSportsFan said:
Why does weight matter? In football yes but I don't think listing weight of basketball players is relevant to much.
I get it…however, given the fact that young women are routinely body shamed in this society it pains me to say, listing weight is best avoided don't you think? Imagine it being fodder for arguments just as there are over actual vs stated height. Catch my drift?
I'm not advocating for or against publishing weights, I think that should be up to the players. But I do think weight matters.CalWSportsFan said:
I get it…however, given the fact that young women are routinely body shamed in this society it pains me to say, listing weight is best avoided don't you think? Imagine it being fodder for arguments just as there are over actual vs stated height. Catch my drift?
I get that, but in today's society that theory can be flipped around. In this day and age of women's sports, and especially women's basketball, the narrative we constantly hear is that they want their game to be respected in the same manner of men's basketball (which I COMPLETELY agree with), so in turn give us the same info on the women as we get on the men.CalWSportsFan said:
I get it…however, given the fact that young women are routinely body shamed in this society it pains me to say, listing weight is best avoided don't you think? Imagine it being fodder for arguments just as there are over actual vs stated height. Catch my drift?
You think men aren't fat shamed. If women want to be treated as equals then the same stats should apply.
Ok...clearly you haven't grown up female....LOL. Sorry, I was just trying to make a thoughtful point....go ahead, put their weights on rosters if it's so important to you. Of course weight matters, but me, I can watch their videos and assess thanks.
Just to be fair, the omission of their weight appears to be important to you. It's athletics, height and weight should be disclosed. You don't think from time to time men have been critiqued about their weight? Fair is fair.CalWSportsFan said:
Ok...clearly you haven't grown up female....LOL. Sorry, I was just trying to make a thoughtful point....go ahead, put their weights on rosters if it's so important to you. Of course weight matters, but me, I can watch their videos and assess thanks.
Fine....in the name of equality post weights if it makes you happy and gives you crucial insights into a player's abilities....
However, just to be fair, one should then understand that weight composition is inherently different in male vs female athletes:
Table 1. Common body fat percentages of college student-athletes per NCAA
In basketball: (males) 6-12%. (females) 20-27%
I guess I'm just not trusting most to acknowledge the differences in "normal" weight for males vs females before judging....
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/5/21/body-composition-what-are-athletes-made-of.aspx
However, just to be fair, one should then understand that weight composition is inherently different in male vs female athletes:
Table 1. Common body fat percentages of college student-athletes per NCAA
In basketball: (males) 6-12%. (females) 20-27%
I guess I'm just not trusting most to acknowledge the differences in "normal" weight for males vs females before judging....
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/5/21/body-composition-what-are-athletes-made-of.aspx
When Charles Barkley played at Auburn University, he was 6'4" tall and weighed 300 lbs. And people called him the Round mound of rebound or Porky Pig on a pogo stick. He has been fat shamed all his life. and i don't think he liked it.
Weight means a lot in basketball. My daughter played in college and at 5'11", 140, she was hugely overmatched under the basket, but quite effective playing the 2. If she had been that height but 180 it would have been a different story. Athletics is largely a strength to weight ratio game. Knowing the weight certainly helps assess the possibilities. And, as others have said, treat the girls like you treat the boys.
Wow! Wasn't expecting this conversation to get so scientific! Then again, this site is for fans rooting for teams that play for the University of California. You wouldn't find this stuff on the Alabama site!CalWSportsFan said:
Fine....in the name of equality post weights if it makes you happy and gives you crucial insights into a player's abilities....
However, just to be fair, one should then understand that weight composition is inherently different in male vs female athletes:
Table 1. Common body fat percentages of college student-athletes per NCAA
In basketball: (males) 6-12%. (females) 20-27%
I guess I'm just not trusting most to acknowledge the differences in "normal" weight for males vs females before judging....
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/5/21/body-composition-what-are-athletes-made-of.aspx
The great DeWanna Bonner has gotten asked to dinner by lots of fans who worry that at 6'4" she is so slender: 140 pounds in her mid-30s. Not the wall-of-womanly defense around the basket that our Marta is, but she can do just about everything else. (And is a crafty rebounder as well.)bearchamp said:
Weight means a lot in basketball. My daughter played in college and at 5'11", 140, she was hugely overmatched under the basket, but quite effective playing the 2. If she had been that height but 180 it would have been a different story. Athletics is largely a strength to weight ratio game. Knowing the weight
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
As a girls' basketball coach, absolutely the last thing I ever want to do is mention a girl's weight.
Shea Ralph, who played at UConn and is now a coach, had big problems with anorexia. The trigger? One day she was getting on the bus and another player said to her "You're looking a little thick."
That was enough to send her on a downward spiral that pretty much doomed her playing career.
So sure, talk about weight, just like you would about guys. Is it worth it if it pushes one (or more) women into anorexia?
Anyone who works with teenage girls stays away from the word "big," even in basketball. I'll call a girl "tall," but never "big."
Anorexia is a deadly, sometimes fatal disease. Pretending it doesn't exist so you can list weights on a roster is appalling.
Shea Ralph, who played at UConn and is now a coach, had big problems with anorexia. The trigger? One day she was getting on the bus and another player said to her "You're looking a little thick."
That was enough to send her on a downward spiral that pretty much doomed her playing career.
So sure, talk about weight, just like you would about guys. Is it worth it if it pushes one (or more) women into anorexia?
Anyone who works with teenage girls stays away from the word "big," even in basketball. I'll call a girl "tall," but never "big."
Anorexia is a deadly, sometimes fatal disease. Pretending it doesn't exist so you can list weights on a roster is appalling.
Okay, wait a minute. Just because someone here makes the argument here that women's weights should be listed it automatically means that they pretend Anorexia doesn't exist? You are allowed to reach that conclusion? With all due respect Clay, you're stretching it. If a female athlete has Anorexia I would think she would have a lot bigger issues then whether her weight is listed on a stat sheet. And the last time I checked, men are also subject to Anorexia. Does that mean that I should conclude that since your statement specifically singled out women, that you pretend that men who have Anorexia don't exist? I guess if that's true I would have to find your statement appalling. Please, let's go a little easier here.ClayK said:
As a girls' basketball coach, absolutely the last thing I ever want to do is mention a girl's weight.
Shea Ralph, who played at UConn and is now a coach, had big problems with anorexia. The trigger? One day she was getting on the bus and another player said to her "You're looking a little thick."
That was enough to send her on a downward spiral that pretty much doomed her playing career.
So sure, talk about weight, just like you would about guys. Is it worth it if it pushes one (or more) women into anorexia?
Anyone who works with teenage girls stays away from the word "big," even in basketball. I'll call a girl "tall," but never "big."
Anorexia is a deadly, sometimes fatal disease. Pretending it doesn't exist so you can list weights on a roster is appalling.
Gosh. The original topic here was the quest for "recruiting news". Look how far away we've strayed. Oh well.
Sorry SFCB. But I have a problem when someone makes a statement and the response to it includes unsubstantiated conclusions. That's all.SFCALBear72 said:
Gosh. The original topic here was the quest for "recruiting news". Look how far away we've strayed. Oh well.
No one has pretended it doesn't exist. That comment is out of left field.Quote:
Anorexia is a deadly, sometimes fatal disease. Pretending it doesn't exist so you can list weights on a roster is appalling.
Clay has long experience coaching young women. I think he knows what he's talking about and I respect his concern for their welfare.
No one said his opinion shouldn't be respected. But he should be able to accept someone else's opinion without coming to conclusions about the poster and reading more into a statement then what was actually said.stu said:
Clay has long experience coaching young women. I think he knows what he's talking about and I respect his concern for their welfare.
ClayK said:
As a girls' basketball coach, absolutely the last thing I ever want to do is mention a girl's weight.
Shea Ralph, who played at UConn and is now a coach, had big problems with anorexia. The trigger? One day she was getting on the bus and another player said to her "You're looking a little thick."
That was enough to send her on a downward spiral that pretty much doomed her playing career.
So sure, talk about weight, just like you would about guys. Is it worth it if it pushes one (or more) women into anorexia?
Anyone who works with teenage girls stays away from the word "big," even in basketball. I'll call a girl "tall," but never "big."
Anorexia is a deadly, sometimes fatal disease. Pretending it doesn't exist so you can list weights on a roster is appalling.
That's fair, thoughtful, and considerate. In the purest sense, I feel like fans think about an increase in weight as it relates to strength. If listing weight adds a trigger, directly or indirectly, then your point is is really important.
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