So anyone correct me if I'm wrong. We've got one more roster spot to sell, correct?
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Yes.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
At this point it would seem to make sense to keep it. Unless an extremely impactful player was available. Then again, the cold truth is there's no way to be sure how many/who enters the portal next year.SFCALBear72 said:
Yes.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
That's true, it is such a year by year proposition right now! (but at least the women can't turn pro early, so one less variable).RedlessWardrobe said:At this point it would seem to make sense to keep it. Unless an extremely impactful player was available. Then again, the cold truth is there's no way to be sure how many/who enters the portal next year.SFCALBear72 said:
Yes.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
What we don't know that the coaching staff does-do they feel like they have some early momentum in recruiting for next year? Is the solid recruiting year from this year opening some doors for next year? Does the on-court results, including being in the ACC, getting them some notice?
Still don't undersehy they can turn pro till after junior year
Seems like WNBA and NCAA jointly blocking them
Seems like WNBA and NCAA jointly blocking them
mbBear said:That's true, it is such a year by year proposition right now! (but at least the women can't turn pro early, so one less variable).RedlessWardrobe said:At this point it would seem to make sense to keep it. Unless an extremely impactful player was available. Then again, the cold truth is there's no way to be sure how many/who enters the portal next year.SFCALBear72 said:
Yes.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
What we don't know that the coaching staff does-do they feel like they have some early momentum in recruiting for next year? Is the solid recruiting year from this year opening some doors for next year? Does the on-court results, including being in the ACC, getting them some notice?
Completely agree...and maybe it's just because, up until now (and the new TV deal) that no one was that interested in leaving for WNBA kind of money. Does someone challenge this rule soon? NIL still might keep it from happening for now....HoopDreams said:
Still don't undersehy they can turn pro till after junior year
Seems like WNBA and NCAA jointly blocking themmbBear said:That's true, it is such a year by year proposition right now! (but at least the women can't turn pro early, so one less variable).RedlessWardrobe said:At this point it would seem to make sense to keep it. Unless an extremely impactful player was available. Then again, the cold truth is there's no way to be sure how many/who enters the portal next year.SFCALBear72 said:
Yes.
Charmin might want to keep that scholarship for next year's class (unless she can sign a 1-year grad transfer in the portal) because I believe we will only be losing Claudia and Sakima Walker after this season.
We already have one commit for the 2026 class. Ruby Perkins, 5-9 point guard from Sydney, Australia.
What we don't know that the coaching staff does-do they feel like they have some early momentum in recruiting for next year? Is the solid recruiting year from this year opening some doors for next year? Does the on-court results, including being in the ACC, getting them some notice?
That will be part of the WNBA CBA negotiations. I think the league and players realize that building a brand in college helps both the college game and the W.
I'm a huge NBA fan but pay almost no attention to college because anyone any good is one and done.
I'm a huge NBA fan but pay almost no attention to college because anyone any good is one and done.
Clark helped by staying four years. People got to know her. Just like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. And Steph Curry.
wvitbear said:
Clark helped by staying four years. People got to know her. Just like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. And Steph Curry.
Magic played 2 years in college.
In the current Wild West NIL situation, the best women players can make more money in college than they can as a WNBA rookie. In the meantime, they can also establish their personal brand. At that point, they do not even need college NIL donors. They can get big direct contracts themselves from businesses, like Juju has done. Most good college players now have agents. If I was in this situation, I would be in the portal every year, and would try to make enough to have someone take my classes for me. I would also only want to,play for teams that would give me maximum tv exposure.
I have no inside info but I have a feeling we'll sign Jenessa Cotton. Previous relationship with Puff, high GPA student, 6'2 forward. It could make sense.
CalFanatic said:
I have no inside info but I have a feeling we'll sign Jenessa Cotton. Previous relationship with Puff, high GPA student, 6'2 forward. It could make sense.
She has committed to Kansas St.
Bummer!!
Magic didn't play one year as mentioned before.
Michigan fans were hoping he would go there. But Michigan State promised him a chance to play point guard despite his size, and the rest is history.mbBear said:wvitbear said:
Clark helped by staying four years. People got to know her. Just like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. And Steph Curry.
Magic played 2 years in college.
Wa hoo wa!annarborbear said:
Virginia has just signed its fifth good post out of the portal - Tabitha Amanze, 6'4" sophomore out of Princeton. They are flush with NIL from Serena Williams husband. They are probably the best example of the non-level playing field that we now have to live with.
If you wanted to come up with a dumber system for college athletics than this one, you would be hard-pressed to do so. Need the Congressional action as quickly as possible.
Go Bears Forever
but it's the trans women making sports unfair!SBGold said:Wa hoo wa!annarborbear said:
Virginia has just signed its fifth good post out of the portal - Tabitha Amanze, 6'4" sophomore out of Princeton. They are flush with NIL from Serena Williams husband. They are probably the best example of the non-level playing field that we now have to live with.
If you wanted to come up with a dumber system for college athletics than this one, you would be hard-pressed to do so. Need the Congressional action as quickly as possible.
Go Bears Forever
Yeah, all 100 of them.Quote:
but it's the trans women making sports unfair!
("Privacy laws make it tough to identify the exact number of transgender athletes competing in public school sports, but researcher and medical physicist Joanna Harper estimates the number can't exceed 100 nationwide.
"While we don't know the exact number of trans women competing in NCAA sports, I would be very surprised if there were more than 100 of them in the women's category," Harper told Newsweek.)
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
I don't think trans athletes should be allowed to compete in female events.
I know there's a lot of grey area when it comes to defining male and female, and the elite female athletes have innate genetic advantages (just as elite male athletes do). But it seems to me that going through puberty as a male gives an inordinate size and strength advantage against most female athletes.
My feeling is that if you choose to go through the trans process, then you forfeit the right to compete as a female in interscholastic sports at any level. To me, that should be one of the costs of the process.
I know there's a lot of grey area when it comes to defining male and female, and the elite female athletes have innate genetic advantages (just as elite male athletes do). But it seems to me that going through puberty as a male gives an inordinate size and strength advantage against most female athletes.
My feeling is that if you choose to go through the trans process, then you forfeit the right to compete as a female in interscholastic sports at any level. To me, that should be one of the costs of the process.
ClayK said:
I don't think trans athletes should be allowed to compete in female events.
I know there's a lot of grey area when it comes to defining male and female, and the elite female athletes have innate genetic advantages (just as elite male athletes do). But it seems to me that going through puberty as a male gives an inordinate size and strength advantage against most female athletes.
My feeling is that if you choose to go through the trans process, then you forfeit the right to compete as a female in interscholastic sports at any level. To me, that should be one of the costs of the process.
So you have had negative experiences when you have coached against Trans athletes? The players were pretty overwhelmed, if that is the word to use, or they had a different reaction?
Are you against the Olympics rule of athletes testosterone levels being below 10 Nanomoles for a year prior to competing?
You have to "pay a cost" to be who you really are? Isn't it "cost" enough to go through the process and to face the social stigma? How utterly cold-hearted.Quote:
My feeling is that if you choose to go through the trans process, then you forfeit the right to compete as a female in interscholastic sports at any level. To me, that should be one of the costs of the process.
Also, according to to the National Women's Law Center: "the small number of trans and intersex girls and women athletes have NOT demonstrated any categorical "dominance" or overwhelming advantage. Years of data negate this dominance argument.
Second, this notion that trans girls have an overall competitive advantage in sports also implies that every single cisgender woman is physically inferior, which feeds into sexist stereotypes and pits women against women. It also risks opening the door to questioning every woman's femininity.
Finally, this notion overlooks the fact that class and money are often responsible for competitive advantages in sports (i.e., access to private coaching, better facilities, better sports equipment, and specialized training). "
I have not coached against trans athletes. They are a minuscule percentage of competitors at any level, and the attention paid to the issue is way out of proportion with its impact.
That said, there are occasional situations where it does come into play -- most recently in California track and field -- and in some cases, the physical advantage to the trans athlete is so great that there is little chance for a female to compete.
And to deny those physical advantages is simply to deny reality. Yes, elite female athletes can compete with some abvoe-average men in some sports. But in general, males have a major advantage in size, strength and explosiveness. Despite treatments, those physical advantages do not go away after transition.
I'm not denying the suffering that leads to the transition, or the pain of the process itself. It is real, and important.
Let me put it another way: I have coached elite girls' basketball teams that have won state titles. The freshmen boys beat us any time we scrimmaged.
That said, there are occasional situations where it does come into play -- most recently in California track and field -- and in some cases, the physical advantage to the trans athlete is so great that there is little chance for a female to compete.
And to deny those physical advantages is simply to deny reality. Yes, elite female athletes can compete with some abvoe-average men in some sports. But in general, males have a major advantage in size, strength and explosiveness. Despite treatments, those physical advantages do not go away after transition.
I'm not denying the suffering that leads to the transition, or the pain of the process itself. It is real, and important.
Let me put it another way: I have coached elite girls' basketball teams that have won state titles. The freshmen boys beat us any time we scrimmaged.
Thanks for such a thoughtful, and well written post. Really appreciate the effort in trying to get this past stereotypes that can easily be found as parallels to the days of integration.Finnish Oski said:You have to "pay a cost" to be who you really are? Isn't it "cost" enough to go through the process and to face the social stigma? How utterly cold-hearted.Quote:
My feeling is that if you choose to go through the trans process, then you forfeit the right to compete as a female in interscholastic sports at any level. To me, that should be one of the costs of the process.
Also, according to to the National Women's Law Center: "the small number of trans and intersex girls and women athletes have NOT demonstrated any categorical "dominance" or overwhelming advantage. Years of data negate this dominance argument.
Second, this notion that trans girls have an overall competitive advantage in sports also implies that every single cisgender woman is physically inferior, which feeds into sexist stereotypes and pits women against women. It also risks opening the door to questioning every woman's femininity.
Finally, this notion overlooks the fact that class and money are often responsible for competitive advantages in sports (i.e., access to private coaching, better facilities, better sports equipment, and specialized training). "
My fear, my belief, is that we are now past the "stigma" stage, at least in this country. You can be as thrilled as a pig in **** over the first 100+ days of this present administration, but being anti-trans is something that is being said out loud by the President, and others in a position of leadership. I'm not making a political statement, this is something clearly in place; their actions affect a lot more military people than it does athletes.
The NCAA has spoken, as requested/directed by the present administration, to ban trans athletes. The banning of younger trans athletes, and yes, we are talking about a small number, will be supported by the present administration, so it's just a matter of those situations coming up case by case. For me, worrying about whether trans athlete might get booed at a sporting event (if allowed to be compete at all) seems trivial compared to worrying about their day to day safety in society.
The "attention paid is out of proportion..." Are you talking about the actions of the administration and subsequently the NCAA? But yes, NIL et. al. should have been of bigger concern, if we are worrying about intercollegiate athletics.ClayK said:
I have not coached against trans athletes. They are a minuscule percentage of competitors at any level, and the attention paid to the issue is way out of proportion with its impact.
That said, there are occasional situations where it does come into play -- most recently in California track and field -- and in some cases, the physical advantage to the trans athlete is so great that there is little chance for a female to compete.
And to deny those physical advantages is simply to deny reality. Yes, elite female athletes can compete with some abvoe-average men in some sports. But in general, males have a major advantage in size, strength and explosiveness. Despite treatments, those physical advantages do not go away after transition.
I'm not denying the suffering that leads to the transition, or the pain of the process itself. It is real, and important.
Let me put it another way: I have coached elite girls' basketball teams that have won state titles. The freshmen boys beat us any time we scrimmaged.
"....Physical advantages do not go away after transition." If you are only talking about a 6-5 male not becoming 5-11 after transition, and how that plays out in basketball, okay. But otherwise, I would be interested in reading the other studies that you have seen talking about this overall, especially relative to the stance taken by the Olympics rule.
can we get this thread back on track...
Good point. Unless there is a current transgender athlete in the Women's NCAA portal awaiting "portal activity", these recent discussions should probably have their own thread.kc1121 said:
can we get this thread back on track...
And to the thread subject matter, if Tali is returning then that would be it for any incoming portal transfers coming in for the current season.
We don't know yet if she's returning. Nothing has been announced by her on social media or by Cal WBB.RedlessWardrobe said:Good point. Unless there is a current transgender athlete in the Women's NCAA portal awaiting "portal activity", these recent discussions should probably have their own thread.kc1121 said:
can we get this thread back on track...
And to the thread subject matter, if Tali is returning then that would be it for any incoming portal transfers coming in for the current season.
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