One thing that needs to change is for Lola to look for more shots on offense. Corner three's are great when they are open. But she went 25 minutes tonight and took only one shot. We don't have enough talent around her to play four on five.
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This would be my starting lineup:
Walker
Naya
Lulu
Sheppard
Donez
Walker
Naya
Lulu
Sheppard
Donez
A win is a win.
only 3 turnovers in the second half. That helped a lot.
Barnes and Walker didn't have the games Cal expects or hopes for based on first two games.
Sheppard and Ojukwu coming in the second half and especially the fourth quarter were key.
But, Smith and Twidale need to jointly figure out what the issue is. yeah, Twidale had 19 points, but the issue is not having the three point shot as a weapon.
Indeed, the Bears need to fix the three point problem, because against the ACC teams, they are not going to be able to get the ball in to the post/paint as easily.
only 3 turnovers in the second half. That helped a lot.
Barnes and Walker didn't have the games Cal expects or hopes for based on first two games.
Sheppard and Ojukwu coming in the second half and especially the fourth quarter were key.
But, Smith and Twidale need to jointly figure out what the issue is. yeah, Twidale had 19 points, but the issue is not having the three point shot as a weapon.
Indeed, the Bears need to fix the three point problem, because against the ACC teams, they are not going to be able to get the ball in to the post/paint as easily.
blungld said:
This would be my starting lineup:
Walker
Naya
Lulu
Sheppard
Donez
I'd like to see Barnes or Maul > Donez. Donez averaged 25+ her senior year in HS in Hawaii but I don't see it
At times it resembled a basketball game. At other times, not so much.
UOP is a team we would have beaten by 38 points last year.
We really need Mjiracle in order to be competitive.
Lulu has to be able to break out of this slump. The rest of her game was solid in the fourth.
Taylor Barnes is an excellent player.
Not only are people not bringing their freakin' friends, many are bringing themselves. Hope attendance picks up.
Does anyone know what the long delay at the 4:30 mark of the fourth quarter was about?
UOP is a team we would have beaten by 38 points last year.
We really need Mjiracle in order to be competitive.
Lulu has to be able to break out of this slump. The rest of her game was solid in the fourth.
Taylor Barnes is an excellent player.
Not only are people not bringing their freakin' friends, many are bringing themselves. Hope attendance picks up.
Does anyone know what the long delay at the 4:30 mark of the fourth quarter was about?
they were trying to determine if the # of personal/team fouls on scoreboard was correct or not
I guess a win is a win.
Wasn't able to attend but was able to see the last minute or so on the ACC+ thing. Cal did a good job making sure Lulu got the ball at the end - most dependable FT shooter.
Lulu scored, but not in the way we expect. Still cold from 3, but very effective inside the arc. And 7-7 on FTs. Difference maker tonight.
Another difference maker? Naya. Only played 8 minutes??? Methinks that number increases. It had better. She is active and I like what I see.
Barnes will be fine - she can play.
Nice to see Miracle on the floor - she might be the best player on the team. Absolutely needs to stay healthy.
Gisella (by the numbers) seemed to have an impact tonight.
Not sure I want to see Lola shooting often. If the corner 3 is open, take it. But other than that, play the D and be active.
Morris and Walker will have to find their way - both have been inconsistent. (Yep, after 3 games we can judge?)
Cal will not be the shooting team we've seen in the past couple of years.
In order to have a good season, Cal will have to defend, rebound, slash their way to layups or FTs. I can see scoring droughts a-plenty. However, if the Bears defend and get in transition, to me that's their recipe for scoring (and how to get Lulu some 3s), at least early in the season.
We shall see how their offense develops.
Actually looking forward to see how this season goes. It's definitely a new look and they've yet to define their identity.
Wasn't able to attend but was able to see the last minute or so on the ACC+ thing. Cal did a good job making sure Lulu got the ball at the end - most dependable FT shooter.
Lulu scored, but not in the way we expect. Still cold from 3, but very effective inside the arc. And 7-7 on FTs. Difference maker tonight.
Another difference maker? Naya. Only played 8 minutes??? Methinks that number increases. It had better. She is active and I like what I see.
Barnes will be fine - she can play.
Nice to see Miracle on the floor - she might be the best player on the team. Absolutely needs to stay healthy.
Gisella (by the numbers) seemed to have an impact tonight.
Not sure I want to see Lola shooting often. If the corner 3 is open, take it. But other than that, play the D and be active.
Morris and Walker will have to find their way - both have been inconsistent. (Yep, after 3 games we can judge?)
Cal will not be the shooting team we've seen in the past couple of years.
In order to have a good season, Cal will have to defend, rebound, slash their way to layups or FTs. I can see scoring droughts a-plenty. However, if the Bears defend and get in transition, to me that's their recipe for scoring (and how to get Lulu some 3s), at least early in the season.
We shall see how their offense develops.
Actually looking forward to see how this season goes. It's definitely a new look and they've yet to define their identity.
Dunno how we can shoot so poorly from outside. I didn't see a shot chart but it looked like most of our points came on drives to the hoop, which we did very well. Lulu scored 19 without a single three. We shot 50% on twos but just 12.5% on threes.
It was great to see our guards crashing the boards. Also Naya, who had 9 points and 5 rebounds in just 8 minutes.
Too many turnovers in the open court and on bad passes inside. When Mjracle came in she righted the ship, we scored more and had only 3 turnovers in the 2nd half.
Shout out to Gisella for a +/- of +21.
The refs had a lot of trouble with clock issues. So did the announcer, who talked on and on before the halftime entertainment could start. Then the participants couldn't figure out they should start.
Plenty to learn from the video. I'm sure.
It was great to see our guards crashing the boards. Also Naya, who had 9 points and 5 rebounds in just 8 minutes.
Too many turnovers in the open court and on bad passes inside. When Mjracle came in she righted the ship, we scored more and had only 3 turnovers in the 2nd half.
Shout out to Gisella for a +/- of +21.
The refs had a lot of trouble with clock issues. So did the announcer, who talked on and on before the halftime entertainment could start. Then the participants couldn't figure out they should start.
Plenty to learn from the video. I'm sure.
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blungld said:
This would be my starting lineup:
Walker
Naya
Lulu
Sheppard
Donez
My guess is you didn't watch the first two games of the season and your lineup is based on last night's game only. Taylor Barnes will be (and should be) starting all season.
Schroeder71 said:
Puff Morris cannot play PG at this level. She is too slow, and Pacific has outscored Cal 8-0, mostly at the expense of Morris inability to direct the offense. Cal was outplayed 10-0 to finish the half and tie up the game, 24-24. Puff has 5 TOs.
I thought the Tigers would be the slowest team that the Bears would face, averaging 24 TOs per game. I was wrong. UOP only has 7 while Cal has committed 15 turnovers at intermission. The entry passes to the three post players have been turnovers almost every time. Langarita is immobile and cannot jump to catch the passes. The TOs go to the guards, but she cannot perform adequately. None of the posts step out to meet the pass.
The Bears appear to be the worst shooting team that I have witnessed in Berkeley. Taylor Barnes is missing close in shots and layups, converting only 2 of 8 shots. She has the only three. Cal again is 1 for 8 (12.5%) from deep.
Sakima Walker cannot stay of the floor. She might be the next Michelle Onyiah.
That's it. Just stick Puff, Sakima, Taylor, and Claudia at the end of the bench and mail in the rest of the season
Barnes is one of our best players. But putting her out there 38 minutes per game could actually make her less effective. That is just too many minutes over a long season. Ojukwu should be able to give her some rest, and 30 minutes per game would be a better target. Ojukwu should also be in when Claudia is in, since Claudia will still want to drift outside.
RedlessWardrobe said:blungld said:
This would be my starting lineup:
Walker
Naya
Lulu
Sheppard
Donez
My guess is you didn't watch the first two games of the season and your lineup is based on last night's game only. Taylor Barnes will be (and should be) starting all season.
I've watched all three games. I like Barnes as 6th man, but no problem with her starting--but she has seemed slow to react, ball sticks with her, and she fumbles it a lot. A confident and assertive Barnes is a starter. I like Donez starting for defensive aggression at the opening of the game, and hopefully a couple threes.
Calm down everybody.
There's a long way to go in this season.
These Bears are still getting "acquainted". And Charmin and her staff are still figuring out who they have and what roles they can play in games. And what combinations work best. That's why they have pre-conference games.
This is not last season's team. One returning starter. Seven new players. Four freshmen. Three who were back-ups at top programs. More depth. Better defense. Tenacious and aggressive. Yes, and a little sloppy at times. Growing pains.
Support them. On their good days and bad days. They need us.
Maybe Lulu's breakout scoring game last night is a hint of what's to come.
Go Bears!!!
There's a long way to go in this season.
These Bears are still getting "acquainted". And Charmin and her staff are still figuring out who they have and what roles they can play in games. And what combinations work best. That's why they have pre-conference games.
This is not last season's team. One returning starter. Seven new players. Four freshmen. Three who were back-ups at top programs. More depth. Better defense. Tenacious and aggressive. Yes, and a little sloppy at times. Growing pains.
Support them. On their good days and bad days. They need us.
Maybe Lulu's breakout scoring game last night is a hint of what's to come.
Go Bears!!!
Hope to see everyone at the next game! Will be my first one of the season. I'm looking forward to it.
SFCALBear72 said:
Calm down everybody.
There's a long way to go in this season.
These Bears are still getting "acquainted". And Charmin and her staff are still figuring out who they have and what roles they can play in games. And what combinations work best. That's why they have pre-conference games.
This is not last season's team. One returning starter. Seven new players. Four freshmen. Three who were back-ups at top programs. More depth. Better defense. Tenacious and aggressive. Yes, and a little sloppy at times. Growing pains.
Support them. On their good days and bad days. They need us.
Maybe Lulu's breakout scoring game last night is a hint of what's to come.
Go Bears!!!
Exactly. Give them time to become a team. You have to remember this is a new era....this team (and many others) are basically starting out from square one in terms of playing together...new players, personalities and yes, talents. I appreciated last night how they hung in there and fought to win the game. I said previously that Pacific was always tough....in fact last season, they nearly beat our Bears at their home. Pacific led after the first quarter and aside from the 2nd, played us even. I was at that game. Cal won 74-66 in the end, but it wasn't a blowout and the team had to fight back to win. Lulu was 2-9 in that game with only 1 3 pointer.... Here's the boxscore: https://calbears.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2024-25/pacific/boxscore/36709
Also, being hyper-critical of talented freshmen who are new to D1 college ball is just plain ridiculous and uncalled for. Spare me the criticism....you aren't really a fan if you find it so easy to determine a player's abilities after watching a couple games. I can think of any number of young newbies over the years at Cal who took time to blossom...Find another team to root for if you can't be supportive of allowing them to grow.
CalWSportsFan said:SFCALBear72 said:
Calm down everybody.
There's a long way to go in this season.
These Bears are still getting "acquainted". And Charmin and her staff are still figuring out who they have and what roles they can play in games. And what combinations work best. That's why they have pre-conference games.
This is not last season's team. One returning starter. Seven new players. Four freshmen. Three who were back-ups at top programs. More depth. Better defense. Tenacious and aggressive. Yes, and a little sloppy at times. Growing pains.
Support them. On their good days and bad days. They need us.
Maybe Lulu's breakout scoring game last night is a hint of what's to come.
Go Bears!!!
Exactly. Give them time to become a team. You have to remember this is a new era....this team (and many others) are basically starting out from square one in terms of playing together...new players, personalities and yes, talents. I appreciated last night how they hung in there and fought to win the game. I said previously that Pacific was always tough....in fact last season, they nearly beat our Bears at their home. Pacific led after the first quarter and aside from the 2nd, played us even. I was at that game. Cal won 74-66 in the end, but it wasn't a blowout and the team had to fight back to win. Lulu was 2-9 in that game with only 1 3 pointer.... Here's the boxscore: https://calbears.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2024-25/pacific/boxscore/36709
Also, being hyper-critical of talented freshmen who are new to D1 college ball is just plain ridiculous and uncalled for. Spare me the criticism....you aren't really a fan if you find it so easy to determine a player's abilities after watching a couple games. I can think of any number of young newbies over the years at Cal who took time to blossom...Find another team to root for if you can't be supportive of allowing them to grow.
And many of us get tired of these lectures, especially telling people to leave the site. These lectures were going on even when we were finishing last several years. I have two degrees from Cal and have rooted for Cal for over 60 years. But I am not a "real fan"?
I wasn't referring to you....fwiw.
CalWSportsFan said:
I wasn't referring to you....fwiw.
Thanks, But expecting 100% cheerleading on a fan site would put these sites out of business.
blungld said:
I've watched all three games. I like Barnes as 6th man, but no problem with her starting--but she has seemed slow to react, ball sticks with her, and she fumbles it a lot. A confident and assertive Barnes is a starter. I like Donez starting for defensive aggression at the opening of the game, and hopefully a couple threes.
Stats don't mean that much after just 3 games but FWIW:
Taylor has 9 assists and 3 turnovers. Mjracle has 9 assists and 5 turnovers. Nobody else has an A/TO ratio greater than 1.
Per 30 minutes Naya has 12 rebounds, Sakima 8.3, Mjracle 6.7, Gisella 6.4, Lulu 4.7, Taylor 4.5, Claudia 3.8, Puff 2.9, Lola 0.5.
Per 30 minutes Mjracle has 3.1 steals, Lola 2.7, Claudia 1.9, Gisella 1.3, Taylor 1.1. Nobody else over 0.6.
Per 30 minutes Naya has 7.5 fouls, Claudia 4.7, Sakima 3.6, Lola 2.3. Nobody else over 1.3.
To me these show above all how good Mjracle is. Confirmed by the eye test.
Taylor plays a lot because she does many good things and few bad things. I'm sure she'll get more aggressive as she gains experience.
Lola is a very good defensive guard but not a playmaker. I like her as a high intensity player coming off the bench. Same with Gisella, who plays more like a forward. If Puff isn't starting then one of these two should.
Neither Sakima nor Naya have any outside game and probably shouldn't be on the court together. Bigs tend to get more fouls but Naya is off the charts. That aside, I love her energy.
Claudia is more of a forward than a center, might best be used backing up Taylor.
"Also, being hyper-critical of talented freshmen who are new to D1 college ball is just plain ridiculous and uncalled for..."
Best statement I've read on this board in a very long time.
RedlessWardrobe said:
"Also, being hyper-critical of talented freshmen who are new to D1 college ball is just plain ridiculous and uncalled for..."
Best statement I've read on this board in a very long time.
I second and third those statements.
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