Poll Shows Gavin Newsom In Serious Danger Of Getting Recalled

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Anarchistbear
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I thought there was no chance but seeing the ads about right wing extremists means he's nationalizing this puny thing and is in trouble.
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I am voting "No" on the recall, and then, as a Cal grad, casting a write in vote for the bear that ate John Cox, May God Rest His Soul!





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He TOTALLY could go down:

a) low turn-out by his supporters, most of whom are tepid right now
b) people who might normally be on the fence, or just not vote, see a chance to say "screw you" to power

No way it would be like this, were it not for his French Laundry dinner. One of the biggest silly political mistakes ever.

Newsome is fine, or, if he isn't, certainly not "un-fine" enough to be kicked out before his term is up.
Maybe the upshot of this will be that California gets rid of, or at least revamps this ridiculous recall thing.
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IF Newsom does not get 50.1% of the vote, it will go to someone who got, say, 20%.
The case will then go to the supreme court and be shot down.

20% doesn't beat 49.9%

Good luck, suckers.
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According to Dan Walters column in the East Bay Times this morning, this is what happens if Larry Elder wins:

"Conversely, were Elder to top the field and succeed Newsom, the Capitol would be tied up in knots for more than a year as he attempted to impose his will and Democrats thwarted him at every turn. Governors have a lot of potential power, but using it depends on having a cooperative Legislature.

As governor, Elder might attempt to emulate Newsom by wielding emergency powers, but the Legislature would immediately void them. He could try to replace top-level administration officials, but his appointees would have to win state Senate confirmation and it would certainly balk. He could veto Democrats' bills, but they have enough legislative seats to override his vetoes.

Elder would submit a 2022-23 budget to the Legislature in January but with three-quarters of the Legislature, Democrats could enact their own budget and override Elder's veto to put it in place.


Although Democrats are issuing dire predictions of what Elder might do as governor, he really would have little power to do anything significant. With huge legislative majorities, Democrats could simply wait out the 15 months of an Elder governorship while gearing up to retake the office in 2022."

In other words, meet your new Governor, Larry Elder, aka Governor Eunuch
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Vote yes to recall and don't vote for a replacement although I look at the profession first and " Cannabis Policy Advisor" and " Retired Homicide Detective" look like they have the right stuff. I also like "hairstylist" since she suffered under Newsom's tyrannical rule.
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Anarchistbear said:

Vote yes to recall and don't vote for a replacement although I look at the profession first and " Cannabis Policy Advisor" and " Retired Homicide Detective" look like they have the right stuff. I also like "hairstylist" since she suffered under Newsom's tyrannical rule.


They say the reason Newsom is advocating not voting for a backup is that under that scenario Larry Elder will win and he will be toastamundo in the General Election if he runs, and he will.
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bearister said:

According to Dan Walters column in the East Bay Times this morning, this is what happens if Larry Elder wins:

"Conversely, were Elder to top the field and succeed Newsom, the Capitol would be tied up in knots for more than a year as he attempted to impose his will and Democrats thwarted him at every turn. Governors have a lot of potential power, but using it depends on having a cooperative Legislature.

As governor, Elder might attempt to emulate Newsom by wielding emergency powers, but the Legislature would immediately void them. He could try to replace top-level administration officials, but his appointees would have to win state Senate confirmation and it would certainly balk. He could veto Democrats' bills, but they have enough legislative seats to override his vetoes.

Elder would submit a 2022-23 budget to the Legislature in January but with three-quarters of the Legislature, Democrats could enact their own budget and override Elder's veto to put it in place.


Although Democrats are issuing dire predictions of what Elder might do as governor, he really would have little power to do anything significant. With huge legislative majorities, Democrats could simply wait out the 15 months of an Elder governorship while gearing up to retake the office in 2022."

In other words, meet your new Governor, Larry Elder, aka Governor Eunuch

I think Elder won't accomplish much as gov, but he will be able to cut spending and block garbage that comes thru the state house.

The problem in California is there is no push back. Having an entire state of one party rule is not healthy.
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Big C said:


He TOTALLY could go down:

a) low turn-out by his supporters, most of whom are tepid right now
b) people who might normally be on the fence, or just not vote, see a chance to say "screw you" to power

No way it would be like this, were it not for his French Laundry dinner. One of the biggest silly political mistakes ever. Newsome is fine, or, if he isn't, certainly not "un-fine" enough to be kicked out before his term is up.

Maybe the upshot of this will be that California gets rid of, or at least revamps this ridiculous recall thing.

I wish Democratic politicians had aides who were specifically tasked with "preventing doing tone-deaf things."

Like Obama and the party and Biden and Camp David.

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going4roses
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No no no !!!!

Not the blackish person that hates black people so much so to the point of lighting his skin because he wants to be white
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MinotStateBeav said:



I think Elder won't accomplish much as gov, but he will be able to cut spending and block garbage that comes thru the state house.

The problem in California is there is no push back. Having an entire state of one party rule is not healthy.

Two of the biggest Republican yahoos in government, McCarthy and Nunes, are from California.


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dimitrig said:

MinotStateBeav said:



I think Elder won't accomplish much as gov, but he will be able to cut spending and block garbage that comes thru the state house.

The problem in California is there is no push back. Having an entire state of one party rule is not healthy.

Two of the biggest Republican yahoos in government, McCarthy and Nunes, are from California.



Those are national offices. They have no effect on the internal workings of the california government.
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MinotStateBeav said:

dimitrig said:

MinotStateBeav said:



I think Elder won't accomplish much as gov, but he will be able to cut spending and block garbage that comes thru the state house.

The problem in California is there is no push back. Having an entire state of one party rule is not healthy.

Two of the biggest Republican yahoos in government, McCarthy and Nunes, are from California.
Those are national offices. They have no effect on the internal workings of the california government.

They prove that the Republican Party still has clout in California.

They are national offices, but they are elected locally.

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Roses: if a black conservative really wants to be "white', does a white liberal really want to be 'black."
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I'm going to stay on topic elder: his bootlicking mindset is the problem.

Any black person in skin color who's sole purpose is adulation if white people who identify with the kkk/proud boys/tea party is trouble. He hates himself he lacks knowledge of self he is not a man he is a yes stoolie for his racist white handlers
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Serious question: does the law prohibit Newsom from running in the recall as a candidate? Can people write him in?
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going4roses
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I'm even more confused now lol
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okaydo said:


Lol I like him more thanks
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And that's just sad
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Unit2Sucks said:

Serious question: does the law prohibit Newsom from running in the recall as a candidate? Can people write him in?


Yes, you can write him in, but it won't be counted.

" Write-in votes will be counted only for people who have filed the papers necessary to qualify as candidates. That anti-recall statement you think you're making by writing in Newsom's name on the ballot? No one will know about it because your vote won't be recorded.

Not that it's hard to qualify as a write-in candidate. Under state law, all it takes are a few formal attestations about who you are and what you're running for, along with the signatures of 65 to 100 registered voters.

But Newsom is barred by law from being a candidate to replace himself. Meanwhile, with Newsom and his party calling for other Democratic officeholders to stay on the sidelines, prominent Democrats would face a potential political backlash if they filed the papers necessary to be a write-in." LA Times
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bearister said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Serious question: does the law prohibit Newsom from running in the recall as a candidate? Can people write him in?


Yes, you can write him in, but it won't be counted.

" Write-in votes will be counted only for people who have filed the papers necessary to qualify as candidates. That anti-recall statement you think you're making by writing in Newsom's name on the ballot? No one will know about it because your vote won't be recorded.

Not that it's hard to qualify as a write-in candidate. Under state law, all it takes are a few formal attestations about who you are and what you're running for, along with the signatures of 65 to 100 registered voters.

But Newsom is barred by law from being a candidate to replace himself. Meanwhile, with Newsom and his party calling for other Democratic officeholders to stay on the sidelines, prominent Democrats would face a potential political backlash if they filed the papers necessary to be a write-in." LA Times
Thanks for posting bearister. That's a shame because Newsom would definitely win as a candidate over the rest of these clowns. Our recall election is essentially a vote of no-confidence but rather than pick a new winner we pick an even bigger loser. I will concede that the Governator actually worked out just fine, surprisingly so, but hard to imagine anyone in the current field being anything but a zero in the governor's mansion.
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Can't stop laughing
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bearister said:

According to Dan Walters column in the East Bay Times this morning, this is what happens if Larry Elder wins:

"Conversely, were Elder to top the field and succeed Newsom, the Capitol would be tied up in knots for more than a year as he attempted to impose his will and Democrats thwarted him at every turn. Governors have a lot of potential power, but using it depends on having a cooperative Legislature.

As governor, Elder might attempt to emulate Newsom by wielding emergency powers, but the Legislature would immediately void them. He could try to replace top-level administration officials, but his appointees would have to win state Senate confirmation and it would certainly balk. He could veto Democrats' bills, but they have enough legislative seats to override his vetoes.

Elder would submit a 2022-23 budget to the Legislature in January but with three-quarters of the Legislature, Democrats could enact their own budget and override Elder's veto to put it in place.


Although Democrats are issuing dire predictions of what Elder might do as governor, he really would have little power to do anything significant. With huge legislative majorities, Democrats could simply wait out the 15 months of an Elder governorship while gearing up to retake the office in 2022."

In other words, meet your new Governor, Larry Elder, aka Governor Eunuch
Sounds like what happened to Schwarzenegger early on, until he calmed down and moderated his approach (and was surprisingly successful after that).
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Unit2Sucks said:

bearister said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Serious question: does the law prohibit Newsom from running in the recall as a candidate? Can people write him in?


Yes, you can write him in, but it won't be counted.

" Write-in votes will be counted only for people who have filed the papers necessary to qualify as candidates. That anti-recall statement you think you're making by writing in Newsom's name on the ballot? No one will know about it because your vote won't be recorded.

Not that it's hard to qualify as a write-in candidate. Under state law, all it takes are a few formal attestations about who you are and what you're running for, along with the signatures of 65 to 100 registered voters.

But Newsom is barred by law from being a candidate to replace himself. Meanwhile, with Newsom and his party calling for other Democratic officeholders to stay on the sidelines, prominent Democrats would face a potential political backlash if they filed the papers necessary to be a write-in." LA Times
Thanks for posting bearister. That's a shame because Newsom would definitely win as a candidate over the rest of these clowns. Our recall election is essentially a vote of no-confidence but rather than pick a new winner we pick an even bigger loser. I will concede that the Governator actually worked out just fine, surprisingly so, but hard to imagine anyone in the current field being anything but a zero in the governor's mansion.

Schwarzenegger ended up being The Last Moderate in America. Not that he would be invited nowadays, but I'd love to hear him address the Republican Convention again, just to witness their reaction when he would say...

"Does wearing a mask disturb your 'freedom' a little bit? No, SCREW your freedom! Freedom comes with obligations and responsibilities... "
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Who then is the white face of black supremacy?
Eastern Oregon Bear
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BearForce2 said:

Who then is the white face of black supremacy?
It don't work that way, homie.
going4roses
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There isn't one because there is no such thing.

There is only one slave master(group) and one enslaved (group).

You need to take a course in CRT. Then you would learn about non racist/ws propaganda
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BearForce2 said:



Who then is the white face of black supremacy?


"Anyone who disagrees with me is a white supremacist! Even if they're black! Rawrrrr!!!"

going4roses
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I'll just consider the source
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going4roses said:

I'll just consider the source


Like clockwork.
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