Dajo and Tom Vindicated!

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WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters); The FBI announced today they have found no evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials. Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations. "Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

FBI finds scant evidence Jan. 6 attack was coordinated: Reuters | TheHill.1 day ago

In response, a man labeling himself as Dajo indicted at a press conference: "that the demonstrates of course were an armed insurrection to take over the government. There were 2.500 armed officers facing dozens of protestor with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and American flags on poles that were wielded as clubs. I expect more investigations by somebody - maybe Nancy Pelosi herself - to show that our government hung by a thread as flag-waving protesters smashed windows and put their feet on the desk inside the nation's most iconic symbol of democracy - Nancy Pelosi's office. This report clearly show there was a civil war organized on far-right social media, at the direction of the three Poor Boys rampaging through the Capitol while taking selfies. There it is in a nutshell, those selfies are the smoking gun."

Someone named Tom at the hastily called press conference continued: "It is a vast right wing conspiracy! They climbed the grand marble staircase and breached police gates and smashed windows and shoved police officers and broke through doorways and forced their way in. Oh wait that was ANTIFA in Berkeley. Let me check my notes. Oh who cares, I can just make it up. What about this? The insurrection was hardly spontaneous. It was carefully, methodically planned, spelled out on far-right social media, where die-hard Trump supporters openly traded advice on how to attack D.C. police officers, how to pry open the doors of the Capitol and how to get illegal pepper spray in. Men in black regalia shoved police, called them "traitors," cursed at them. At some doors to the building, no officers were visible. Oh wait a minute, that was ANTFA and Berkeley again. What about armed restraint man? Maybe I can post more pictures of him. Clearly he came prepared to take over the federal government, including the armed forces, national guard, and all the armed officers. He came looking for hostages! What you mean he took the restraints from a capital officer? What would Dajo do? Yes, deflect, that's it.




dajo9
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We've covered this ground before. Wiaf is the same guy that doesn't believe lynchings happened in America because there were no prosecutions.
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BearForce2
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It took the FBI over 7 months to figure this out as they realized their own people were storming the Capitol and decided to release this information on a Friday afternoon in the middle of a crisis. Those FBI agents who were egging others on and citizens who the undercover agents secretly met with previously were identified as unindicted co-conspirators and were not charged with anything.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
Anarchistbear
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It's the worst trespassing threat to our democracy since the Civil War!
BearForce2
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The trespassing was serious enough to make Adam Schiff cry.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
wifeisafurd
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dajo9 said:

We've covered this ground before. Wiaf is the same guy that doesn't believe lynchings happened in America because there were no prosecutions.
Defection by Mr. Dajo. I guess there must have been investigations that also said no lynching. Must have been a vast right wing conspiracy involving the FBI and Justice Dept said there were no lynchings.

What happened to Mr. there are ongoing investigations that will show it was a insurrection? Were not you the same guy that said that? Update: the investigations are in and you are now called on it. Deflection, deflection, deflection.
going4roses
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Whoa @ lynching (America's favorite pastime)

Did not happen?

Wife really?
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
Eastern Oregon Bear
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"Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized."

That's probably true of many of the revolutions of the past. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution and even the American Revolution were organized by relatively small groups of people. I don't think this absolves the people storming the Capitol at all. Ultimately, even the ones caught up in the moment had to know what they were doing was wrong and there could be personal consequences for being involved.
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American Revolution
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The whole thing wasn't tightly coordinated, duh. It was a motley hodgepodge of different groups and lots of individuals. Within some of the groups, there had obviously been some planning going on.
Unit2Sucks
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The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.
sycasey
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Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

We've covered this ground before. Wiaf is the same guy that doesn't believe lynchings happened in America because there were no prosecutions.
Defection by Mr. Dajo. I guess there must have been investigations that also said no lynching. Must have been a vast right wing conspiracy involving the FBI and Justice Dept said there were no lynchings.

What happened to Mr. there are ongoing investigations that will show it was a insurrection? Were not you the same guy that said that? Update: the investigations are in and you are now called on it. Deflection, deflection, deflection.


Can you provide a source where I said that?
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It is also important we don't lose sight of what happened.

People angry at the results of a fair and free election, believing lies told by the president about the election being rigged, physically overwhelmed and killed police while forcing their entry into the Capitol building screaming death to Mike Pence and other politicians in that building, with the intent to disrupt and prevent the acknowledgement and certification of that election.

Just because it wasn't well organized does not mean it is any less scary or meaningful.
dajo9
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What I would like information on is the delay in getting the national guard there
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wifeisafurd
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golden sloth said:

It is also important we don't lose sight of what happened.

People angry at the results of a fair and free election, believing lies told by the president about the election being rigged, physically overwhelmed and killed police while forcing their entry into the Capitol building screaming death to Mike Pence and other politicians in that building, with the intent to disrupt and prevent the acknowledgement and certification of that election.

Just because it wasn't well organized does not mean it is any less scary or meaningful.
According to Dajo Trump won the election. You just don't appreciate that the lack of evidence or no one being arrested for stealing the election, means it happened, and also means that he said that no one was ever lynched. If you are having trouble following that just remember how surprised I was to find I somehow said no one ever got lynched.
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sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?
sycasey
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
wifeisafurd
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dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

We've covered this ground before. Wiaf is the same guy that doesn't believe lynchings happened in America because there were no prosecutions.
Defection by Mr. Dajo. I guess there must have been investigations that also said no lynching. Must have been a vast right wing conspiracy involving the FBI and Justice Dept said there were no lynchings.

What happened to Mr. there are ongoing investigations that will show it was a insurrection? Were not you the same guy that said that? Update: the investigations are in and you are now called on it. Deflection, deflection, deflection.


Can you provide a source where I said that?
How about Bear Insider Growls, to wit:

"Wife's response reminds me of Trump claiming "No Collusion!" and then having all his supporters say, "see, nobody has indicted Trump for collusion. Ergo, there is no evidence of collusion". Contrary to what Wife says above, there is tons of evidence of a coup attempt (not a legal term, at least as far as I am using it and most people use it) just as there has always been tons of evidence of collusion (not a legal term).

Furthermore, the investigations into what happened on January 6th are ongoing. Particularly as it pertains to bigger issues, like how to handle government officials, which would be handled at a very high level. Wife is spiking the football at the 5 yard line here. Merrick Garland was only confirmed as Attorney General on March 10th. The Deputy Attorney General has been in position for all of 2 days"

Limiting your posts to the usual reposting tweets from some nimrod might be a safer play.


wifeisafurd
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sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.
calpoly
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.
"Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. "


Are you really trying to rewrite the events on Jan. 6th? You are completely glossing over the violence, property damage, and unlawfulness that occurred. Why do you think tRump supporters took over the Capital Building on Jan. 6th? It does not take a rocket scientist (or even a real estate agent) to answer that question.
going4roses
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Hmm
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
sycasey
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.

It was very, very dumb indeed.

And also an attempt at insurrection.
wifeisafurd
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calpoly said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.
"Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. "


Are you really trying to rewrite the events on Jan. 6th? You are completely glossing over the violence, property damage, and unlawfulness that occurred. Why do you think tRump supporters took over the Capital Building on Jan. 6th? It does not take a rocket scientist (or even a real estate agent) to answer that question.
The problem when you overstate things is that people start asking questions, and then you find out your narrative is bull***** As hard as this may be able to comprehend, the same level (if not worse) property damage, violence and unlawfulness took place in the take over in Seattle. That is what often happens when demonstrators take over public buildings. I'm not a real estate agent, but I think most reek estate agents not wearing binders and reading about the FBI report would conclude that it is idiotic to think the few hundred people going into the Capital Building with pepper spray and flag holders went in on an insurrection to take over the Federal government. The FBI knows it, the prosecutors know it, and now you should know it if you could get past your biases.. To paraphrase the ever observant anarchistbear, this was the worst trespass ever in the Capital Building's history.
BearForce2
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sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.

The Capitol was breached 20 minutes before Trump finished his speech at the Ellipse which was 1.5 miles away. Trump mentions the Capitol three times in the speech.

Quote:

....we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.
Quote:

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
Quote:

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.
The unorganized fascist? Trump would have seized control of the Capitol on 1/6 if only he were more organized,?
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

We've covered this ground before. Wiaf is the same guy that doesn't believe lynchings happened in America because there were no prosecutions.
Defection by Mr. Dajo. I guess there must have been investigations that also said no lynching. Must have been a vast right wing conspiracy involving the FBI and Justice Dept said there were no lynchings.

What happened to Mr. there are ongoing investigations that will show it was a insurrection? Were not you the same guy that said that? Update: the investigations are in and you are now called on it. Deflection, deflection, deflection.


Can you provide a source where I said that?
How about Bear Insider Growls, to wit:

"Wife's response reminds me of Trump claiming "No Collusion!" and then having all his supporters say, "see, nobody has indicted Trump for collusion. Ergo, there is no evidence of collusion". Contrary to what Wife says above, there is tons of evidence of a coup attempt (not a legal term, at least as far as I am using it and most people use it) just as there has always been tons of evidence of collusion (not a legal term).

Furthermore, the investigations into what happened on January 6th are ongoing. Particularly as it pertains to bigger issues, like how to handle government officials, which would be handled at a very high level. Wife is spiking the football at the 5 yard line here. Merrick Garland was only confirmed as Attorney General on March 10th. The Deputy Attorney General has been in position for all of 2 days"

Limiting your posts to the usual reposting tweets from some nimrod might be a safer play.





Wife, you coward. Why didn't include my whole quote? After what you quoted above I also said. . .

"Not that I expect much to be legally done to high profile Trumpers related to the January 6th coup attempt. Democrats are timid and it is always easier for your agenda to just move forward. I'm not expecting much from the Department of Justice. But I know what happened."

So here you are with an anonymous leak from the FBI (part of the Department of Justice) spiking the football again. What a dope. The only thing you got right was your headline saying I was vindicated. Link to my quote is below.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/101552/replies/1872733
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concordtom
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Wife
I read the headline and opening paragraph. I'll be glad to read more, but by my eyes and ears, this is complete rubbish.

Do I really need the FBI to explain things such as "today is the day we start taking names and kicking ass!"
Or, "so, we're going to match up to the Capitol, and I'll be with you... stop the steal."
Or...

There are times I respect you, and there are times you aide in my losing faith in mankind. This would be one of those latter moments.

Tell me, what would you have done if you were out for a nice Sunday drive, and then you came to a railroad crossing and saw a train full of people stacked inside cattle cars, with a banner attached which reads, "sanctioned by your leader." ???
Hmmm?
Would you put that Cal education to use and compute what 2+2 is??

Sure, there are technicalities involved. And you know, OJ didn't kill Ron and Nicole - he was found not guilty!
Do you agree???
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?


I'm sorry, but you're a ****ing idiot!
You totally disappoint me, are such a typical sack to take this and try to run a victory lap as if GOP leadership had NOTHING to do with it.

Loser. Don't show up at dinner parties trying to discuss this.
going4roses
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Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
calpoly
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wifeisafurd said:

calpoly said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.
"Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. "


Are you really trying to rewrite the events on Jan. 6th? You are completely glossing over the violence, property damage, and unlawfulness that occurred. Why do you think tRump supporters took over the Capital Building on Jan. 6th? It does not take a rocket scientist (or even a real estate agent) to answer that question.
The problem when you overstate things is that people start asking questions, and then you find out your narrative is bull***** As hard as this may be able to comprehend, the same level (if not worse) property damage, violence and unlawfulness took place in the take over in Seattle. That is what often happens when demonstrators take over public buildings. I'm not a real estate agent, but I think most reek estate agents not wearing binders and reading about the FBI report would conclude that it is idiotic to think the few hundred people going into the Capital Building with pepper spray and flag holders went in on an insurrection to take over the Federal government. The FBI knows it, the prosecutors know it, and now you should know it if you could get past your biases.. To paraphrase the ever observant anarchistbear, this was the worst trespass ever in the Capital Building's history.
Trespassers do not beat/kill the police, vandalize the building, and stop the proceeding of the government.
going4roses
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Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
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sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The one thing no one has ever accused Trump of is being organized.

Bingo. That wasn't the claim in the first place. It was that he encouraged/incited the attack.
You mean dialed back from an armed insurrection to an attack. Tomorrow it is an angry demonstration. The next day just another night in Portland or Seattle?

It could still be called an insurrection if you like. Just being disorganized doesn't disqualify it.
Sure, the impromptu, unarmed insurrection to shot selfies in the Capita Building in order to take over the federal government. This gets dumber by the moment. At some point every takeover of a pubic building is now an insurrection. But hey, if the FBI and Justice Department can't help you, maybe an investigation by [fill in name] on why the National Guard was late to the party gets you there.

It was very, very dumb indeed.

And also an attempt at insurrection.
So we've gone from insurrection to attempt at insurrection.

For the sake of this discussion, please provide your definition of insurrection. I think that's important.

BearForce2
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If the insurrectionists only had more fire extinguishers, they would have succeeded in their attempt at insurrection.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
going4roses
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Oh boy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR2661Wa/

Here we have an insurrectionists
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