Man kept french fry in mouth 1.5 hours on flight so didn't have to wear mask

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MinotStateBeav
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oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Most masks don't obstruct breathing.
The cloth masks I had sucked, I did the mask thing for about a year. I hated it with a passion.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Unit2Sucks said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


At least 200k people and counting drank the pro COVID anti vax Kool Aid and have committed suicide since June. That number is only going up. Really not that different from Jim Jones other than the scale and stupidity of the victims.
Nobody is stopping you from taking the vax, we're just saying don't force it on people that don't want it. That seems like a difficult concept for you. If you want to create 2 classes of people, then you will not like the consequences.


No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If it were legally required that you get vaccinated, you would be vaccinated. You are not but you are not in jail. What are you talking about.? If you don't want to get it, then don't. Likewise, if you don't want to take the bar exam, then don't. But you have to pass the bar if you want to be a lawyer. If you don't want to get a driver's license, then don't. But you can't drive without one. You don't want to apply for a green card or visa, then don't. But you need a visa or a green card to come to this country legally.. You have to get vaccinated if you want to do certain things, but you are free not to. No one is injecting anything in your body against your will.
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calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


If you graduated from Cal, you are smarter than that. The condition that the private business implemented to use their aircraft was wearing a mask. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't take that flight. Other passengers satisfied the condition to use the private property. Let me make it simple for you. You have to wear clothes to go to a restaurant. Let's say you don't want to and insist on going naked. Everyone else is wearing clothes. I say, if you really didn't want to wear clothes, you didn't have to go to that restaurant that requires wearing clothes as a condition to dining there. And then you come back with an odd statement that - well, all those other people who were wearing clothes didn't have to go either. What?!!
Graduating from Cal doesn't make you smart. But there are smart people at Cal who graduate. I don't know why you keep inventing scenarios, I'm not arguing over the right of private businesses to enforce their own mask mandate. Though I believe Airlines being "Private" is kinda a gray area, since its the federal government essentially controls every aspect of air travel.
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calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Unit2Sucks said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


At least 200k people and counting drank the pro COVID anti vax Kool Aid and have committed suicide since June. That number is only going up. Really not that different from Jim Jones other than the scale and stupidity of the victims.
Nobody is stopping you from taking the vax, we're just saying don't force it on people that don't want it. That seems like a difficult concept for you. If you want to create 2 classes of people, then you will not like the consequences.


No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If it were legally required that you get vaccinated, you would be vaccinated. You are not but you are not in jail. What are you talking about.? If you don't want to get it, then don't. Likewise, if you don't want to take the bar exam, then don't. But you have to pass the bar if you want to be a lawyer. If you don't want to get a driver's license, then don't. But you can't drive without one. You don't want to apply for a green card or visa, then don't. But you need a visa or a green card to come to this country legally.. You have to get vaccinated if you want to do certain things, but you are free not to. No one is injecting anything in your body against your will.
No one is forcing vaccination, but let's not pretend they aren't trying. Ron Klain even got called out by the Supreme Court because that idiot admitted they were using OSHA to bypass congress.
calbear93
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MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


If you graduated from Cal, you are smarter than that. The condition that the private business implemented to use their aircraft was wearing a mask. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't take that flight. Other passengers satisfied the condition to use the private property. Let me make it simple for you. You have to wear clothes to go to a restaurant. Let's say you don't want to and insist on going naked. Everyone else is wearing clothes. I say, if you really didn't want to wear clothes, you didn't have to go to that restaurant that requires wearing clothes as a condition to dining there. And then you come back with an odd statement that - well, all those other people who were wearing clothes didn't have to go either. What?!!
Graduating from Cal doesn't make you smart. But there are smart people at Cal who graduate. I don't know why you keep inventing scenarios, I'm not arguing over the right of private businesses to enforce their own mask mandate. Though I believe Airlines being "Private" is kinda a gray area, since its the federal government essentially controls every aspect of air travel.


It is still a private business. You do know Delta, American Airline, etc. are publicly traded, for profit companies, right? Law firms are not government entities even if they are subject to state requirements on who can practice law. Uber is not a government entity even if their drivers' use of roads, speed limits, etc are regulated.

So, if you don't want to wear a mask, then don't. But you are not entitled to board a plane owned by a private business that requires it, just like AOC has no right to enter your house if she is not invited.
calbear93
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MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Unit2Sucks said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


At least 200k people and counting drank the pro COVID anti vax Kool Aid and have committed suicide since June. That number is only going up. Really not that different from Jim Jones other than the scale and stupidity of the victims.
Nobody is stopping you from taking the vax, we're just saying don't force it on people that don't want it. That seems like a difficult concept for you. If you want to create 2 classes of people, then you will not like the consequences.


No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If it were legally required that you get vaccinated, you would be vaccinated. You are not but you are not in jail. What are you talking about.? If you don't want to get it, then don't. Likewise, if you don't want to take the bar exam, then don't. But you have to pass the bar if you want to be a lawyer. If you don't want to get a driver's license, then don't. But you can't drive without one. You don't want to apply for a green card or visa, then don't. But you need a visa or a green card to come to this country legally.. You have to get vaccinated if you want to do certain things, but you are free not to. No one is injecting anything in your body against your will.
No one is forcing vaccination, but let's not pretend they aren't trying. Ron Klain even got called out by the Supreme Court because that idiot admitted they were using OSHA to bypass congress.


First of all, OSHA regulates businesses for worker safety under authority, like most agencies, granted by Congress. They don't regulate you. They had no right to force you to get vaccinated. But if you don't want to get vaccinated, you didn't have to work for a company that employees more than 100 people. If you want to avoid wearing hard hats, you don't have to work at a construction site. You have the freedom, but not freedom without consequences for your actions. Even if the Supreme Court had not overturned it, you still would not have been required by law to get vaccinated.
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calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Unit2Sucks said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


At least 200k people and counting drank the pro COVID anti vax Kool Aid and have committed suicide since June. That number is only going up. Really not that different from Jim Jones other than the scale and stupidity of the victims.
Nobody is stopping you from taking the vax, we're just saying don't force it on people that don't want it. That seems like a difficult concept for you. If you want to create 2 classes of people, then you will not like the consequences.


No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If it were legally required that you get vaccinated, you would be vaccinated. You are not but you are not in jail. What are you talking about.? If you don't want to get it, then don't. Likewise, if you don't want to take the bar exam, then don't. But you have to pass the bar if you want to be a lawyer. If you don't want to get a driver's license, then don't. But you can't drive without one. You don't want to apply for a green card or visa, then don't. But you need a visa or a green card to come to this country legally.. You have to get vaccinated if you want to do certain things, but you are free not to. No one is injecting anything in your body against your will.
No one is forcing vaccination, but let's not pretend they aren't trying. Ron Klain even got called out by the Supreme Court because that idiot admitted they were using OSHA to bypass congress.


First of all, OSHA regulates businesses for worker safety under authority, like most agencies, granted by Congress. They don't regulate you. They had no right to force you to get vaccinated. But if you don't want to get vaccinated, you didn't have to work for a company that employees more than 100 people. If you want to avoid wearing hard hats, you don't have to work at a construction site. You have the freedom, but not freedom without consequences for your actions. Even if the Supreme Court had not overturned it, you still would not have been required by law to get vaccinated.
Spoken like a true authoritarian. Just like in China, "You can't criticize the government, but if you do, your social credit score will take a hit. You have the freedom, but not the freedom without consequences for your actions".
calbear93
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MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Unit2Sucks said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


At least 200k people and counting drank the pro COVID anti vax Kool Aid and have committed suicide since June. That number is only going up. Really not that different from Jim Jones other than the scale and stupidity of the victims.
Nobody is stopping you from taking the vax, we're just saying don't force it on people that don't want it. That seems like a difficult concept for you. If you want to create 2 classes of people, then you will not like the consequences.


No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If it were legally required that you get vaccinated, you would be vaccinated. You are not but you are not in jail. What are you talking about.? If you don't want to get it, then don't. Likewise, if you don't want to take the bar exam, then don't. But you have to pass the bar if you want to be a lawyer. If you don't want to get a driver's license, then don't. But you can't drive without one. You don't want to apply for a green card or visa, then don't. But you need a visa or a green card to come to this country legally.. You have to get vaccinated if you want to do certain things, but you are free not to. No one is injecting anything in your body against your will.
No one is forcing vaccination, but let's not pretend they aren't trying. Ron Klain even got called out by the Supreme Court because that idiot admitted they were using OSHA to bypass congress.


First of all, OSHA regulates businesses for worker safety under authority, like most agencies, granted by Congress. They don't regulate you. They had no right to force you to get vaccinated. But if you don't want to get vaccinated, you didn't have to work for a company that employees more than 100 people. If you want to avoid wearing hard hats, you don't have to work at a construction site. You have the freedom, but not freedom without consequences for your actions. Even if the Supreme Court had not overturned it, you still would not have been required by law to get vaccinated.
Spoken like a true authoritarian. Just like in China, "You can't criticize the government, but if you do, your social credit score will take a hit. You have the freedom, but not the freedom without consequences for your actions".


What?! You are a waste of time. Enjoy your delusional, imaginary moral outrage while thinking voting for Trump means you are fighting authoritarian rule.
oski003
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MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
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calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


If you graduated from Cal, you are smarter than that. The condition that the private business implemented to use their aircraft was wearing a mask. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't take that flight. Other passengers satisfied the condition to use the private property. Let me make it simple for you. You have to wear clothes to go to a restaurant. Let's say you don't want to and insist on going naked. Everyone else is wearing clothes. I say, if you really didn't want to wear clothes, you didn't have to go to that restaurant that requires wearing clothes as a condition to dining there. And then you come back with an odd statement that - well, all those other people who were wearing clothes didn't have to go either. What?!!
Graduating from Cal doesn't make you smart. But there are smart people at Cal who graduate. I don't know why you keep inventing scenarios, I'm not arguing over the right of private businesses to enforce their own mask mandate. Though I believe Airlines being "Private" is kinda a gray area, since its the federal government essentially controls every aspect of air travel.


It is still a private business. You do know Delta, American Airline, etc. are publicly traded, for profit companies, right? Law firms are not government entities even if they are subject to state requirements on who can practice law. Uber is not a government entity even if their drivers' use of roads, speed limits, etc are regulated.

So, if you don't want to wear a mask, then don't. But you are not entitled to board a plane owned by a private business that requires it, just like AOC has no right to enter your house if she is not invited.

For the record, AOC, if you are reading this, you are invited to my house!
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oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.
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MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.

A lot of the microspopic virus particles collect in droplets. Any mask prevents the wearer from spewing out droplets. So it helps a little. The virus that gets aerosolized needs a better and better-fitting mask to stop it completely, but the less viral load somebody inhales, the less likely they are to get infected and the less likely they are to get really sick. Masks are one protective layer that helps to tamp down the spread, but they are not a panacea.
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MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.


The less viral load somebody inhales, the less likely they are to get infected and the less likely they are to get really sick, as stated above. Masks work, even on flights.
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Just as Minot says he wouldn't take his business to a store that required him to wear a mask, I have several local stores I won't shop at because mask rules are being ignored. Being that over 60% of Americans have been vaccinated, I suspect there are more people like me than like him, so it's really in their interest to require masks.

By the way, Minot if you're living in central Oregon, that probably means the Bend area. Deschutes county alone had 743 new cases of Covid on Friday. You'll catch it sooner or later. Maybe you'll be OK, maybe being unvaccinated, you'll have a chance to insist on your freedom from being ventilated. Or worse.

As for whether Minot attended Cal, I've assumed from his handle that he either went to college at Minot State or works there. Since he says he lives in central Oregon, I'm assuming it's the former. I'm not sure why he hangs out here. Having lived in North Dakota, I certainly met some people there who thought like he does. They weren't bad people, they just saw the world on a simplistic level without much complexity or nuance. Playing fantasy football with them was like stealing.
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Questioning if others went to Cal didn't originate from DiabloWags but he/she/they has been doing it a lot recently and it seems like it's spreading to others like a virus. This virus appears to affect d-bags only but still, be careful and stay safe..
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Big C said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


If you graduated from Cal, you are smarter than that. The condition that the private business implemented to use their aircraft was wearing a mask. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't take that flight. Other passengers satisfied the condition to use the private property. Let me make it simple for you. You have to wear clothes to go to a restaurant. Let's say you don't want to and insist on going naked. Everyone else is wearing clothes. I say, if you really didn't want to wear clothes, you didn't have to go to that restaurant that requires wearing clothes as a condition to dining there. And then you come back with an odd statement that - well, all those other people who were wearing clothes didn't have to go either. What?!!
Graduating from Cal doesn't make you smart. But there are smart people at Cal who graduate. I don't know why you keep inventing scenarios, I'm not arguing over the right of private businesses to enforce their own mask mandate. Though I believe Airlines being "Private" is kinda a gray area, since its the federal government essentially controls every aspect of air travel.


It is still a private business. You do know Delta, American Airline, etc. are publicly traded, for profit companies, right? Law firms are not government entities even if they are subject to state requirements on who can practice law. Uber is not a government entity even if their drivers' use of roads, speed limits, etc are regulated.

So, if you don't want to wear a mask, then don't. But you are not entitled to board a plane owned by a private business that requires it, just like AOC has no right to enter your house if she is not invited.

For the record, AOC, if you are reading this, you are invited to my house!


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MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:


Though I believe Airlines being "Private" is kinda a gray area, since its the federal government cessentially controls every aspect of air travel.

Private entities (airlines, unions, drone manufacturers etc.) "control" the federal government (esp. FAA)

I'd say "gray" is an understatement.....for many reasons.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:



As for whether Minot attended Cal, I've assumed from his handle that he either went to college at Minot State or works there. Since he says he lives in central Oregon, I'm assuming it's the former. I'm not sure why he hangs out here. Having lived in North Dakota, I certainly met some people there who thought like he does. They weren't bad people, they just saw the world on a simplistic level without much complexity or nuance. Playing fantasy football with them was like stealing.


holy sh*t , you're the living version of south park smug. I'm from the California. I don't live there anymore. I have nothing bad to say about North Dakotans. Salt of the earth, humble folks. You certainly don't belong there.
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oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.


The less viral load somebody inhales, the less likely they are to get infected and the less likely they are to get really sick, as stated above. Masks work, even on flights.


And anyone who even bothered to try to be informed knew cloth masks were useless since most infections were through aerosol spread and one needed a mask that will filter out something small enough like a virus in aerosol. People who were informed stopped wearing cloth mask a long time ago if they were going to spend any meaningful time indoors with non-family members since social distancing and cloth mask won't prevent you from getting sufficient viral load - but wearing an N95 mask that fits well will reduce the risk, with vaccine protecting you from severe illness if and when you eventually catch it. Nothing about this is a guarantee. It is about playing the odds and reducing your risk and saving hospital beds for people who need it.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Just as Minot says he wouldn't take his business to a store that required him to wear a mask, I have several local stores I won't shop at because mask rules are being ignored. Being that over 60% of Americans have been vaccinated, I suspect there are more people like me than like him, so it's really in their interest to require masks.

By the way, Minot if you're living in central Oregon, that probably means the Bend area. Deschutes county alone had 743 new cases of Covid on Friday. You'll catch it sooner or later. Maybe you'll be OK, maybe being unvaccinated, you'll have a chance to insist on your freedom from being ventilated. Or worse.

As for whether Minot attended Cal, I've assumed from his handle that he either went to college at Minot State or works there. Since he says he lives in central Oregon, I'm assuming it's the former. I'm not sure why he hangs out here. Having lived in North Dakota, I certainly met some people there who thought like he does. They weren't bad people, they just saw the world on a simplistic level without much complexity or nuance. Playing fantasy football with them was like stealing.


I personally don't care that much whether some does something stupid like wear a mask below their nose, etc. since I know unless there is forced circulation with strong HEPA filter, any indoor area with a lot of people will have sufficient COVID in the air. I will wear my N95 mask and am fully vaccinated and boosted because my life is worthwhile, and I stopped having sympathy for those who don't value their life to do simple things. I think they are idiots without basic skills to pivot and adapt to this new reality and they are the ones who are rolling the dice. I don't need to care about their survival more than they do. The real harm to others is the healthcare workers and non-COVID related patients who cannot get a hospital bed because these idiots are clogging up our hospitals and leeching off our resources. Other than that, I don't care just like I don't care if I see an idiot riding a motorcycle without a helmet.
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calbear93 said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.


The less viral load somebody inhales, the less likely they are to get infected and the less likely they are to get really sick, as stated above. Masks work, even on flights.


And anyone who even bothered to try to be informed knew cloth masks were useless since most infections were through aerosol spread and one needed a mask that will filter out something small enough like a virus in aerosol. People who were informed stopped wearing cloth mask a long time ago if they were going to spend any meaningful time indoors with non-family members since social distancing and cloth mask won't prevent you from getting sufficient viral load - but wearing an N95 mask that fits well will reduce the risk, with vaccine protecting you from severe illness if and when you eventually catch it. Nothing about this is a guarantee. It is about playing the odds and reducing your risk and saving hospital beds for people who need it.


We generally avoid N95s because they are uncomfortable. We prefer something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Medical-Disposable-Masks-Protection/dp/B08F59NF33/ref=asc_df_B08F59NF33/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475789813578&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18285709526233619893&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031046&hvtargid=pla-1073682233666&psc=1
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oski003 said:

calbear93 said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

oski003 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.
No. I won't wear the mask. If you want to, feel free. It's actually funny when I go the grocery store and half are wearing em and half aren't. It's 2 years of Covid and I ain't dead, I must be lucky.


Then don't wear a mask but you are also not free to go to a commercial location where you are required to wear a mask. You may not want to wear any pants to work but if they require it, you wear it or you can just choose not to go. Or just buy your own plane and feel free to wear whatever you want. You do realize that you do not have unfettered license to enter a private location just like Pelosi or AOC cannot enter your private residence I invited.
Here's what I tell anyone that feels they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do. Make me. It's simple. You either have the sack to make me do something or you have the law to back you up. Feel free to show me in the constitution the section on "Mandatory Masks and Vaccines.".


Life......Liberty.......and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Where is the section in the Constitution on wearing seatbelts, stopping at red lights and stop signs, and going the speed limit?
None of those things include injecting things into your body or forcing you to breathe obstructed.


Apparently you are not vaccinated nor wearing masks so clearly no one is forcing you. Aren't there real things to complain about without making up something that clearly doesn't even impact you?
I was just responding to you complaining and calling people who don't follow your Church of Covid , idiots. We get it, you drank the kool aid.


I was referring to that specific idiot who put a French fry in his mouth for one and a half hour because he didn't want to wear a mask he knew was a condition to getting on a commercial plane owned by a business that required it. You thought that he was some brilliant hero and I think he is an idiot whose life is so small that he spends his life fighting those petty battles. We all deal with things we may not agree with. I may not want to wear shoes to a fancy restaurant but if I want to dine there, guess what? I have to. They are not infringing on my constitutional rights or impeding my freedom. I wear it so that others can enjoy their dinner. So, yes, he is an entitled, mindless idiot. No one asked him to take that flight or use that airline if he felt so strongly about it.
Nobody asked any of the other passengers to take the flight either...what kind of logic is that? The vax doesn't work. They are all spreading it to each other, so the only thing you're fighting is common sense. You think a mask works on a flight where all the air is recirculated? lol.


Yes, masks work, even on flights.
What is the size of the Covid-19 virus?
It is approximately circular with a spike on it. The overall diameter is about 0.3 microns or slightly less. That's about 1/100th the diameter of the average human hair.
This is why the cheaper surgical style masks won't protect you from getting Covid-19. The holes are too big.


The less viral load somebody inhales, the less likely they are to get infected and the less likely they are to get really sick, as stated above. Masks work, even on flights.


And anyone who even bothered to try to be informed knew cloth masks were useless since most infections were through aerosol spread and one needed a mask that will filter out something small enough like a virus in aerosol. People who were informed stopped wearing cloth mask a long time ago if they were going to spend any meaningful time indoors with non-family members since social distancing and cloth mask won't prevent you from getting sufficient viral load - but wearing an N95 mask that fits well will reduce the risk, with vaccine protecting you from severe illness if and when you eventually catch it. Nothing about this is a guarantee. It is about playing the odds and reducing your risk and saving hospital beds for people who need it.


We generally avoid N95s because they are uncomfortable. We prefer something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Medical-Disposable-Masks-Protection/dp/B08F59NF33/ref=asc_df_B08F59NF33/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475789813578&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18285709526233619893&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031046&hvtargid=pla-1073682233666&psc=1


They are better than cloth mask but worse than n95. You should look into Enro, Happy Mask or KF94 with three D shape from Korea that are much more comfortable than 3M N95 masks.
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.


Then what are we all doing HERE?
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MinotStateBeav said:

bearister said:

"Make me."

By way of background, do you have advanced fighting skills in boxing, wrestling or martial arts?
I'm big enough to defend myself and my size usually deters people. But yes I did wrestle too. Wrestling and football is a good combination.


No wonder your reasoning on this site is weak. You've for too long relied on the old "might makes right" axiom.
An original Tough Guy, eh?
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concordtom said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.


Then what are we all doing HERE?
Good point.

I do say that you seem to have some self-hate in your inability to refrain from spending time here.

But I get it. It didn't take long to realize why I avoided this place for awhile.

I appreciate the intelligent conversations with the likes of Diablo (who often seems to write what I am thinking), WIAF, Cal79 and even if I disagree with their positions Sycasey, Big C and, when he is not just set on winning an argument, U2. But then I find this site too polluted with trolls, posers, and, quite honestly, utter idiots that most of us would not waste a single moment of our precious life if this were not some anonymous forum. And as fun as it was to chat with those intelligent posters, the trolls and morons ruin the experience.

So, since you seem to want to quit this OT site, let's make a deal.

I am going on a 6 week vacation to Laguna Niguel (more accurately Dana Point) and Half Moon Bay with the wife. Let's both refrain from not only posting but even visiting this playground of trolls. Permanently.

Deal?
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calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

calbear93 said:

MinotStateBeav said:




More like Freedom Fry.


Just wear the mask, idiot. There are more worthy hill to die on. You can pretty much tell how small a person's life is based on where they focus their big fight in life.


Then what are we all doing HERE?
Good point.

I do say that you seem to have some self-hate in your inability to refrain from spending time here.

But I get it. It didn't take long to realize why I avoided this place for awhile.

I appreciate the intelligent conversations with the likes of Diablo (who often seems to write what I am thinking), WIAF, Cal79 and even if I disagree with their positions Sycasey, Big C and, when he is not just set on winning an argument, U2. But then I find this site too polluted with trolls, posers, and, quite honestly, utter idiots that most of us would not waste a single moment of our precious life if this were not some anonymous forum. And as fun as it was to chat with those intelligent posters, the trolls and morons ruin the experience.

So, since you seem to want to quit this OT site, let's make a deal.

I am going on a 6 week vacation to Laguna Niguel (more accurately Dana Point) and Half Moon Bay with the wife. Let's both refrain from not only posting but even visiting this playground of trolls. Permanently.

Deal?


I'm starting up intermittent fasting.
But I will be eating each day.

I'll take the same approach here.
Less is more.

Have a great trip.

....consuming too much of food and BI is not good.
Agreed. Too many complete idiots. Anyone who accepts the Big Lie and Trump is like mainlining poison.

I support your complete abstinence. Debating with idiots is toxic, and nobody will be missing you, or me, if we are gone. I was gone once for 8 months. I think there was just one mention of that. So, yeah, maybe I should quit cold turkey, too.
I know Bearister wishes he could!
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concordtom said:

MinotStateBeav said:

bearister said:

"Make me."

By way of background, do you have advanced fighting skills in boxing, wrestling or martial arts?
I'm big enough to defend myself and my size usually deters people. But yes I did wrestle too. Wrestling and football is a good combination.


No wonder your reasoning on this site is weak. You've for too long relied on the old "might makes right" axiom.
An original Tough Guy, eh?
My reasoning is weak, because I'm a big guy who can defend himself. Solid logic.
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Nobody should have to do something unenjoyable, where they have to deal with idiots on a regular basis... unless they're at work.
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The guys that say they are not going to post here anymore make more comebacks than the Doobie Brothers do Farewell Tours.

Glossary:

Intelligent conversations = people that share my worldview*

Idiots, morons and trolls = anyone that challenges my worldview


*As evidenced by endless circle jerk essays back and forth shoring up the same outlook on an issue, with an occasional dropping of kittens when someone decides to fire a missile in.

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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
concordtom
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Yeah.
This is a sick wasteland.
Perhaps we can all agree on that.
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bearister said:

The guys that say they are not going to post here anymore make more comebacks than the Doobie Brothers do Farewell Tours.
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concordtom said:

Yeah.
This is a sick wasteland.
Perhaps we can all agree on that.
It is. I long ago came to terms with the amount of time I spend here. I'm a political junkie. It's how my brain is wired and it is genetic. But people in my real life don't want to hear my political thoughts all the time. I get annoyed by hearing other people's political thoughts all the time, irl, so I get it. I really don't like arguing politics in real life as it ruins relationships. I view this board as an outlet. I get my political thoughts out to all you poor *******s, and I enjoy it somehow. And I keep the people in my real life from being annoyed at me. Thank you all.
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BearForce2 said:

bearister said:

The guys that say they are not going to post here anymore make more comebacks than the Doobie Brothers do Farewell Tours.



In 1982, I was on vacation in Tahoe and went to see Michael McDonald at a casino ( Harrah's?). I think it may have been a warmup performance for a tour to support his first solo album, If That's What it Takes. His band was top rate. Session bass player Willie Weeks, Robben Ford on lead guitar (he played at Guitar Explosion at the BCT in '72) and Edgar Winter (Johnny's brother) on keyboards. The concert was brilliant and among the best I ever saw. None of Michael's solo albums comes near his first one.

The album cover:




The album:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Lpw39GxwbNUmwTNLZVi3ZvDSZmOKZg1
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

Yeah.
This is a sick wasteland.
Perhaps we can all agree on that.
It is. I long ago came to terms with the amount of time I spend here. I'm a political junkie. It's how my brain is wired and it is genetic. But people in my real life don't want to hear my political thoughts all the time. I get annoyed by hearing other people's political thoughts all the time, irl, so I get it. I really don't like arguing politics in real life as it ruins relationships. I view this board as an outlet. I get my political thoughts out to all you poor *******s, and I enjoy it somehow. And I keep the people in my real life from being annoyed at me. Thank you all.


Look how many simple stars were left.
Apparently many feel the same.
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