Biden's speech will deliver a hard truth: American democracy is under grave threat

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concordtom
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I'm not sure why he (John Harwood) switched from cnbc but I have read numerous bits about how new management at cnn is trying to shift the station to a more neutral stance. It's why they got rid of Brian Stelter.

Personally, this is somewhat frightful if cnn is going to subvert calling out lies because they don't want to offend some viewers.

I mean, sure, it was very unpleasant what began to happen culturally (later in actuality) in Germany 1930's. But someone should have been standing up and calling a horse a horse.



concordtom
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some members of the media need to reconsider history.




How the media created trump, 2016:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37952249.amp
Quote:




'The failure of journalism'


Prof Jeff Jarvis:
"The mere fact of Donald Trump's candidacy is evidence of the failure of journalism," he believes.

He, like many other members of the liberal media class, feels Trump's success is a sign that the media failed to communicate the truth with enough force.

A view is that the media gave Trump far too much unfiltered airtime.

Rather than being appalled, large parts of the audience liked what they were watching. In essence, it's felt that print journalism failed to tell the real story - and that TV gave Trump a free pass.

Whether you agree, it assumes two things. First, that the news industry has a moral purpose. Second, that TV is still the most powerful medium.

The triumph of television

In 1968 Roger Ailes, the future boss of Fox News, had a problem: how to get Richard Nixon on television without it being controlled and filtered by what he felt was a hostile media.

His solution was to create his own staged Nixon TV specials and offer them to TV stations. Forty-eight years later, CNN was effectively doing the same for Trump - free of charge.

The enthusiasm for Trump at CNN was simple: ratings. Jeff Zucker, the boss of CNN, is also the man who employed him to present The Apprentice when he worked at NBC.

Jeff Zucker made Trump a TV star by hiring him for The Apprentice
Zucker, perhaps more than anyone else, turned Trump into a TV star.

Trump's repeated denunciations of CNN following a documentary he felt was deeply flawed rather overlook the success of their relationship. Trump brought CNN ratings in a tough TV market, and he got exposure in return.




Zucker has been replaced by a new guy Chris Licht (previously cbs' Colbert show and MSNBC morning Joe) who is letting go the most most critical voices? Instructing others who stay to tone it down?
That concerns me.

More about Chris Licht:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cnn-staff-chris-licht-era-1235201909/amp/
chazzed
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82gradDLSdad said:

MinotStateBeav said:

concordtom said:

Excuse me, but you're an absolute (redacted).

The RED is to try and appeal to people like you.
Unfortunately, as he said, some of you are too far gone.
"If you're not with the majority, you're an extremist."
Biden Spokeswoman




Neither party has any skill in bringing us together. Maybe I'm only noticing this as I get older and that it's always been this way.


It wasn't always this way. It started with Gingrich and may have culminated with the MAGA cult. For one, I'm glad that Democrats are finally pushing back with similar rhetoric. You can't compromise with these RWNJs.
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"It is dangerous to believe that "balanced journalism" gives equal weight to liars and to truth-tellers, to those intent on destroying democracy and those seeking to protect it, to the enablers of an ongoing attempted coup and those who are trying to prevent it.

Two Sundays ago, CNN's Brian Stelter, host of the show Reliable Sources, put it well:

"It's not partisan to stand up for decency and democracy and dialogue. It's not partisan to stand up to demagogues. It's required. It's patriotic. We must make sure we don't give platforms to those who are lying to our faces."

Not incidentally, that was Stelter's last show on CNN.

On Friday, CNN White House reporter John Harwood said:

"The core point [Biden] made in that political speech about a threat to democracy is true. Now, that's something that's not easy for us, as journalists, to say. We're brought up to believe there's two different political parties with different points of view and we don't take sides in honest disagreements between them. But that's not what we're talking about. These are not honest disagreements. The Republican party right now is led by a dishonest demagogue."

Harwood went on to say:

"Many, many Republicans are rallying behind his lies about the 2020 election and other things as well. And a significant portion or a sufficient portion of the constituency that they're leading attacked the Capitol on January 6. Violently."

Shortly after making these remarks, Harwood announced he was no longer with CNN…..

It is not "taking sides" to point out that the Trump Republicans are trying to establish an authoritarian government in America.

It is not "violating journalistic standards" to tell the unvarnished truth about what America is facing today.

In fact, a failure to call out the Trump Republicans for what they are liars, enablers, and accessories to crimes against the constitution itself violates the most basic canons of journalistic ethics.

"Balanced journalism" does not exist halfway between facts and lies."



Democracy is under attack and reporting that isn't 'violating journalistic standards'-Robert Reich


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/04/biden-speech-democracy-attack-media-coverage-republicans?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Republicans are liars, hypocrites, and morons. I've said it over and over. Been this way at least since Bonzo's costar was president.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
dajo9
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concordtom said:

82gradDLSdad said:

concordtom said:

82gradDLSdad said:

MinotStateBeav said:

concordtom said:

Excuse me, but you're an absolute (redacted).

The RED is to try and appeal to people like you.
Unfortunately, as he said, some of you are too far gone.
"If you're not with the majority, you're an extremist."
Biden Spokeswoman



Neither party has any skill in bringing us together. Maybe I'm only noticing this as I get older and that it's always been this way.


The tactic seems to me to try and turn MAGA into the radical fringe, to get moderate Republicans to break them off.

Trump is weakened with all the charges now and the nation needs the Rs to lose in November so that the Republican Party drives the MAGA trump faction out.

That's very clear.
Then we can continue with traditional debates on tax policy and such.

Will Rs accept the notion, or get all backed up and identify with the radical Trumpists?


This is not a bad explanation. I took don't understand the folks who are still willing to look past Trump's, uh, transgressions. You can move away from Trump and still believe in conservative principles.


Thank you.

The weird thing about it is that Trump was more aligned with the Democrats earlier in life. I know he was pro-choice, among many other things.

But his opening was on the right, so he switched and played his cards.

Far weirder still is that the Republican Party took him in and put him up on their stage.

The weirdest bit of all, however, is that truly conservative people began to accept him, get behind him, and voted for him.

I'm talking about the fiscal conservatives - here was a man who was so sloppy financially that he bankrupted joint ventures and small cities.

I'm talking about religious conservatives - here was a man who couldn't provide a single quote from the Bible when asked and who never has been known to have experienced any period of time in life associated personally with church or religion.

And I'm talking about conservatives of character - here was a man so wild with his words and deeds it made everyone's head spin! Tabloid idiot? Grab them by the P? I like soldiers who don't get captured? I mean, is there anybody this person wouldn't insult, all while pushing past the crowd to hold up his own handful of sh*t and declare it didn't stink?



My goodness! What has become of the Republican Party?!?!

Surely, it is a phenomenon tgat should be studied by psychologists the same as Hitler's rise in Germany has been.
Unfortunately, he didn't learn too much with that prior go around.
But thankfully, this radical takeover was halted (at least temporarily and hopefully permanently) in November 2020, and again on January 6 2021.

How it is finally put down has yet to play out. Will it be through Georgia election tampering? NY financial docs fraud? Stolen and hidden Top Secret Documents? November 2022 elections? Other?

I just pray some new wacko of untruths like Kevin McCarthy doesn't take up the baton!

George Bush Sr seems like such the idyllic Republican!
"A thousand points of light."
"A kinder and gentler America."

It's sad…. Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? Our nation needs you more than you can know.


George Bush Sr started 2 imperial wars, put our troops in Somalia, nominated Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court and pardoned the Iran-Contra criminals with his AG, Bill Barr.
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"How much money has flowed from the House of Saud to the Bush family and its friends and allies over the years? No one will ever know -- but the number is at least $1.477 billion."

Did the Saudis buy a president? | Salon.com


https://www.salon.com/2004/03/12/unger_2/
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dajo9
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The FBI head of NY counterintelligence from 2016-2018 has been arrested for dealing with . . . you already know

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Amazing how many people were on the take from Deripaska. I wonder if McGonical and Manaford were ever secret santa partners.
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dajo9 said:

The FBI head of NY counterintelligence from 2016-2018 has been arrested for dealing with . . . you already know


Somehow this must be Biden (or maybe Obama's) fault even though the events happened under Trump's watch.
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