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okaydo said:


Both sides are too simplistic and do not have actual experience leading a commerical organization.

The right does not understand that, to keep investors and employees happy, companies sometimes have to take actions that the right considers "woke". This does not necessarily reflect the personal beliefs of the individual directors or executives.

The left does not know when to call a win a win but instead keeps pushing to an illogical point of demand. This creates a reflexive reaction from the right (representing about half of the customer base), making it more likely that companies will take a neutral position and not step into issues unless critical to their long-term interests.

DeSantis may look like a fool here, but his actions are causing a lot of companies to pause before they take action that can cause them to be the next Disney. No matter who wins, the company will still lose. The only companies who can take active positions are those like Nike since they cater more to the younger folks who don't mind dropping couple of hundred dollars on sneakers on their way to protest how capitalism is evil.
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calbear93 said:

The right does not understand that, to keep investors and employees happy, companies sometimes have to take actions that the right considers "woke". This does not necessarily reflect the personal beliefs of the individual directors or executives.
Not only investors and employees but customers. The Mouse does not do anything unless they think it will help them make more money. If they are producing more content with better representation for racial minorities, LGBTQ people, etc. (which is what right-wingers often call "woke"), then they are doing it because they think there is customer demand for it.

On the right, a lot of this is about losing the culture war and knowing that they've lost it, so they resort to strong-arm tactics (which are destined to backfire). If anyone thinks that trying to shut down Disney World is a winning political move, I think they're badly mistaken.
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The attempt to pardon the racist murderer in Texas is abhorrent. What happened to all those good republicans?

This is the type of monster who should get the chair but since he's white and killed a black guy he gets pardoned and becomes a new GOP hero like the Kenosha Killer.


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sycasey said:

calbear93 said:

The right does not understand that, to keep investors and employees happy, companies sometimes have to take actions that the right considers "woke". This does not necessarily reflect the personal beliefs of the individual directors or executives.
Not only investors and employees but customers. The Mouse does not do anything unless they think it will help them make more money. If they are producing more content with better representation for racial minorities, LGBTQ people, etc. (which is what right-wingers often call "woke"), then they are doing it because they think there is customer demand for it.

On the right, a lot of this is about losing the culture war and knowing that they've lost it, so they resort to strong-arm tactics (which are destined to backfire). If anyone thinks that trying to shut down Disney World is a winning political move, I think they're badly mistaken.
From experience, I would say customer is a 50/50. There are just as many politically right customers for Disney as there are for politically left. From a customer standpoint, staying neutral is probably the best. There are exceptions for companies that cater to the younger generation, but the bigger companies try to stay neutral even if they provide "woke" benefits (e.g., payment to travel to out of state for abortion, adoption assistance for non-traditional families, etc.) to address employee concerns and demands by Gen Z work force. You won't see companies with older or more manufacturing employee base providing this. You will see more of this with tech, retail, etc.

Diversity and Inclusion are more investor and employee driven than customer driven (other than federal government), with the BlackRock, State Street, etc. demanding progress in their proxy positions and with shareholder proponents and activists agitating disclosure and policies through the proxy process.

But I can tell you that Disney is a cautionary tale among executives.
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Desantis has no core beliefs, has terrible political instincts and is a deeply unlikeable personality. He's a GOP version of Hillary Clinton with none of the positives.

He has so completely mis calibrated what things matter to people and seems to crowd source his ideas from fringe right wing media personalities. His fall was predictable and will be enjoyable to watch.

Thinking that people in Florida like him more than Disneyland is one of the dumbest political stances he could have taken. It was a low percentage play with no upside. It shows his pride and pettiness control his decision-making, like Trump, but without a base of adoring morons to overlook it.

On another note I hope police depts all over the country are able to buy the drones from Florida PD's at a steep discount.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Desantis has no core beliefs, has terrible political instincts and is a deeply unlikeable personality. He's a GOP version of Hillary Clinton with none of the positives.

He has so completely mis calibrated what things matter to people and seems to crowd source his ideas from fringe right wing media personalities. His fall was predictable and will be enjoyable to watch.

Thinking that people in Florida like him more than Disneyland is one of the dumbest political stances he could have taken. It was a low percentage play with no upside. It shows his pride and pettiness control his decision-making, like Trump, but without a base of adoring morons to overlook it.

On another note I hope police depts all over the country are able to buy the drones from Florida PD's at a steep discount.
Desantis has a 59% approval rating in Florida. It's not like he is having a fall - it's more that he was never a viable contender against the Trump cult. There is no viable Republican contender against the Trump cult. It is the Trump cult vs. the Democratic Party. .

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/04/poll-desantis-leads-trump-in-florida-as-approval-rating-climbs-to-59/70078148007/
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Unit2Sucks said:

Desantis has no core beliefs, has terrible political instincts and is a deeply unlikeable personality. He's a GOP version of Hillary Clinton with none of the positives.

He has so completely mis calibrated what things matter to people and seems to crowd source his ideas from fringe right wing media personalities. His fall was predictable and will be enjoyable to watch.

Thinking that people in Florida like him more than Disneyland is one of the dumbest political stances he could have taken. It was a low percentage play with no upside. It shows his pride and pettiness control his decision-making, like Trump, but without a base of adoring morons to overlook it.

On another note I hope police depts all over the country are able to buy the drones from Florida PD's at a steep discount.
I think the hope for DeSantis was someone who could potentially tap into the MAGA base but have an actual ability to govern with sharp intellect. Someone who came from middle class background to attend Yale undergrad, Harvard law school, serve in the military and get elected as governor of Florida is a lot sharper than almost anyone here. With Trump, unless it was about showmanship or marketing, almost anyone here is smarter than Trump. No doubting DeSantis' intelligence but if he can't beat Trump, he's pointless.
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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The top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee planned to speak with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) after she called the Department of Homeland Security secretary a "liar" during a bombastic hearing on Wednesday.

Rep. Mark Green (R-Tenn.), the chair of the committee, barred his colleague from talking any further during the meeting after she unleashed a tirade against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas over the migrant situation at the southern U.S. border. She also accused Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) of having a "sexual relationship with a Chinese spy" without offering any evidence.

Democrats on the panel immediately called on Mark Green to strike the comments from the record, which prompted the Georgia congresswoman to be banned from any further comment.


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Why is it that Tucker Carlson always has the facial expression of a Dog trying to understand a magic trick?
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I thought that I was gonna die from the dorm food in Unit-2 back in 1980.
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DiabloWags said:

I thought that I was gonna die from the dorm food in Unit-2 back in 1980.
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Unit2Sucks said:

DiabloWags said:

I thought that I was gonna die from the dorm food in Unit-2 back in 1980.
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Lots of good-looking coeds were ruined by the time Spring quarter rolled in.
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DiabloWags said:

Unit2Sucks said:

DiabloWags said:

I thought that I was gonna die from the dorm food in Unit-2 back in 1980.
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It was a travesty!







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Cal co-eds dress a lot nicer today than they did back in my day, causing me considerable pain and suffering. Where are my damned reparations?!?
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Big C said:


Cal co-eds dress a lot nicer today than they did back in my day, causing me considerable pain and suffering. Where are my damned reparations?!?


I never noticed their figures* or clothing. I just looked into their eyes.



*Does this term date me?

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bearister said:

Big C said:


Cal co-eds dress a lot nicer today than they did back in my day, causing me considerable pain and suffering. Where are my damned reparations?!?


I never noticed their figures* or clothing. I just looked into their eyes.



*Does this term date me?




Pfft. Amateur. I looked in to their souls.
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Liars, hypocrites, and MORONS!

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-trump-pizza-piece-eaten-2023-4

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AunBear89 said:

bearister said:

Big C said:


Cal co-eds dress a lot nicer today than they did back in my day, causing me considerable pain and suffering. Where are my damned reparations?!?


I never noticed their figures* or clothing. I just looked into their eyes.



*Does this term date me?




Pfft. Amateur. I looked in to their souls.






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A California journalist documents the far-right takeover of her town: 'We're a test case'


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/21/california-journalist-far-right-takover-shasta-county?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other




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bearister said:

A California journalist documents the far-right takeover of her town: 'We're a test case'


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/21/california-journalist-far-right-takover-shasta-county?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other






That is an enlightening read. Thank you.
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AunBear89 said:

Liars, hypocrites, and MORONS!

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-trump-pizza-piece-eaten-2023-4


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okaydo said:




Florida is the literally the armpit of the United States

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