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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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How would you like to be a writer and get assigned to write "55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis" and you go to your editor and say that's a typo, right? There's only supposed to be one "5", isn't there? And your editor says, no, 55, so you'd better get going. And you get $10 for every "thing", so count your lucky stars.

The next week, you google "coding boot camps near me".

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GoOskie said:

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Big C said:

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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How would you like to be a writer and get assigned to write "55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis" and you go to your editor and say that's a typo, right? There's only supposed to be one "5", isn't there? And your editor says, no, 55, so you'd better get going. And you get $10 for every "thing", so count your lucky stars.

The next week, you google "coding boot camps near me".

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Reporter: Sir, I quit. I'm going to code the next great social media platform.

Boss: <scowls> Get your azz back to finding those 55 things, numbnutz.

Reporter: Quits, completes coding boot camp and gets a job and tries but fails to "Hello World".

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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calbear93 said:

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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That was the original point I made.

Don't call him stupid because he is smarter than anyone here calling him stupid.

He just sucks as a politician and may have ego / personality issues.

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dimitrig said:

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calbear93 said:

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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That was the original point I made.

Don't call him stupid because he is smarter than anyone here calling him stupid.

He just sucks as a politician and may have ego / personality issues.

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I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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dimitrig said:

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calbear93 said:

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dimitrig said:

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calbear93 said:

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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That was the original point I made.

Don't call him stupid because he is smarter than anyone here calling him stupid.

He just sucks as a politician and may have ego / personality issues.

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I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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That is delusional and a sign of oversized ego.

No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more. They may be smarter but only in their dreams.

I am not ashamed to say there are people smarter than me, including DeSantis, Obama, both Clintons, and all of the Supreme Court justices.

I don't think it's delusional to say I am smarter than Biden and Trump.

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Speak for yourself.

I think DeSantis would have failed out of the classes I took at Cal.

Yale and Harvard seem pretty easy, though, given that Dubya Bush is a grad of both.

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dimitrig said:

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dimitrig said:

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calbear93 said:

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dimitrig said:

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calbear93 said:

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bearister said:

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Seems like he has the grey matter….but then again, so did the Unabomber.

55 Things You Need to Know About Ron DeSantis - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/24/55-things-ron-desantis-00095475

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That was the original point I made.

Don't call him stupid because he is smarter than anyone here calling him stupid.

He just sucks as a politician and may have ego / personality issues.

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I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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That is delusional and a sign of oversized ego.

No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more. They may be smarter but only in their dreams.

I am not ashamed to say there are people smarter than me, including DeSantis, Obama, both Clintons, and all of the Supreme Court justices.

I don't think it's delusional to say I am smarter than Biden and Trump.

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Speak for yourself.

I think DeSantis would have failed out of the classes I took at Cal.

Yale and Harvard seem pretty easy, though, given that Dubya Bush is a grad of both.

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Also, I think it is ridiculous to measure intelligence in terms of success.

There are a lot of dumbass people who are rich and successful and accomplished.

For example, see Donald Trump.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that he would be open to dropping bombs on U.S. ally Mexico in an apparent bid to fight the country’s pervasive drug cartels. https://t.co/K4ZFQOpjw7

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) August 10, 2023

lmao this is perfect pic.twitter.com/V1rrZE6kOg

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 10, 2023

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Cambridge Caren is at it again. Good thing she's here to tell us all how to behave and respect our more successful superiors.



What a c&nt.

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OsoDorado said:

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calbear93 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that he would be open to dropping bombs on U.S. ally Mexico in an apparent bid to fight the country’s pervasive drug cartels. https://t.co/K4ZFQOpjw7

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) August 10, 2023

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Sounds like a stable genius to me!

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Some would say posting on BI off topics to mock someone famous who is more accomplished just for self affirmation is a sign of a stable genius as well ....

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I was intrigued by the exchange between you and dimitrig regarding who is or is not "smarter" and/or "more accomplished" than Ron DeSantis. For context, let me quote a little of your earlier exchange:

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dimitrig said:

I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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calbear93 said:

That is delusional and a sign of oversized ego.

No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more. They may be smarter but only in their dreams ....

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dimitrig said:

Speak for yourself.

I think DeSantis would have failed out of the classes I took at Cal.


Respectfully, dimitrig and you both made way too sweeping claims in saying -- respectively -- "I think there are a lot of people here smarter than (DeSantis) is - perhaps everyone" and "No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more."

Obviously, it's not true that "perhaps everyone" on Bear Insider "is smarter than DeSantis." Nor is it true that (presumably none of the) "people here are ... smarter than DeSantis.

I hope my points don't misinterpret your positions, but let me know if so ....

First, what does it mean to be "more accomplished" ? Some people think "accomplishment" is measured my income or wealth. By this metric, a lot of popular social media content creators are more "accomplished" than Ron DeSantis, even though many never graduated High School and came from far more "disadvantaged" backgrounds.

Second, what does it mean to be "smarter" ? DeSantis majored in History at Yale before getting his law degree at Harvard. He went on to be elected Governor of Florida.

Great! That's definitely a resume, but does that make him automatically "smarter than" Cal Boalt (or "Berkeley Law") grads with respect to law or Cal History majors with respect to History? Nope! Does that make him "smarter than" the Cal STEM grads here with respect to science, technology, engineering and Math?

The last point is what I think dimitrig was hinting at: just because you got a History degree from Yale and a Law degree from Harvard doesn't mean you could survive through to a Cal STEM degree, regardless of how elite Yale and Harvard certainly are.

So while DeSantis has a list of impressive accomplishments, it is pretty subjective to suggest he has accomplished more than the Cal grads on this board (or even -- by some measures -- many internet content creators who never went to college.)

It is a lot more objectively certain that many Cal grads are "smarter than" DeSantis in History and Law. With respect to our STEM majors, I would say practically all -- including me! -- are likely "smarter than" DeSantis in our respective majors.

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calbear93 said:

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OsoDorado said:

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calbear93 said:

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dimitrig said:

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okaydo said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that he would be open to dropping bombs on U.S. ally Mexico in an apparent bid to fight the country’s pervasive drug cartels. https://t.co/K4ZFQOpjw7

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) August 10, 2023

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Sounds like a stable genius to me!

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Some would say posting on BI off topics to mock someone famous who is more accomplished just for self affirmation is a sign of a stable genius as well ....

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I was intrigued by the exchange between you and dimitrig regarding who is or is not "smarter" and/or "more accomplished" than Ron DeSantis. For context, let me quote a little of your earlier exchange:

Quote:

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dimitrig said:

I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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calbear93 said:

That is delusional and a sign of oversized ego.

No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more. They may be smarter but only in their dreams ....

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dimitrig said:

Speak for yourself.

I think DeSantis would have failed out of the classes I took at Cal.


Respectfully, dimitrig and you both made way too sweeping claims in saying -- respectively -- "I think there are a lot of people here smarter than (DeSantis) is - perhaps everyone" and "No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more."

Obviously, it's not true that "perhaps everyone" on Bear Insider "is smarter than DeSantis." Nor is it true that (presumably none of the) "people here are ... smarter than DeSantis.

I hope my points don't misinterpret your positions, but let me know if so ....

First, what does it mean to be "more accomplished" ? Some people think "accomplishment" is measured my income or wealth. By this metric, a lot of popular social media content creators are more "accomplished" than Ron DeSantis, even though many never graduated High School and came from far more "disadvantaged" backgrounds.

Second, what does it mean to be "smarter" ? DeSantis majored in History at Yale before getting his law degree at Harvard. He went on to be elected Governor of Florida.

Great! That's definitely a resume, but does that make him automatically "smarter than" Cal Boalt (or "Berkeley Law") grads with respect to law or Cal History majors with respect to History? Nope! Does that make him "smarter than" the Cal STEM grads here with respect to science, technology, engineering and Math?

The last point is what I think dimitrig was hinting at: just because you got a History degree from Yale and a Law degree from Harvard doesn't mean you could survive through to a Cal STEM degree, regardless of how elite Yale and Harvard certainly are.

So while DeSantis has a list of impressive accomplishments, it is pretty subjective to suggest he has accomplished more than the Cal grads on this board (or even -- by some measures -- many internet content creators who never went to college.)

It is a lot more objectively certain that many Cal grads are "smarter than" DeSantis in History and Law. With respect to our STEM majors, I would say practically all -- including me! -- are likely "smarter than" DeSantis in our respective majors.

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I definitely don't mean wealth. DeSantis does not have a lot. I definitely have more. But I still think he accomplished more than I did. I went the easier route of law firm, management and hedge fund. It's tougher to go to military, Congress and Governor. That's what I meant. Being Governor is a bigger accomplishment than most have realized here.

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OsoDorado said:

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calbear93 said:

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OsoDorado said:

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calbear93 said:

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dimitrig said:

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okaydo said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that he would be open to dropping bombs on U.S. ally Mexico in an apparent bid to fight the country’s pervasive drug cartels. https://t.co/K4ZFQOpjw7

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) August 10, 2023

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Sounds like a stable genius to me!

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Some would say posting on BI off topics to mock someone famous who is more accomplished just for self affirmation is a sign of a stable genius as well ....

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I was intrigued by the exchange between you and dimitrig regarding who is or is not "smarter" and/or "more accomplished" than Ron DeSantis. For context, let me quote a little of your earlier exchange:

Quote:

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Quote:

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dimitrig said:

I think there are a lot of people here smarter than he is - perhaps everyone.

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calbear93 said:

That is delusional and a sign of oversized ego.

No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more. They may be smarter but only in their dreams ....

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dimitrig said:

Speak for yourself.

I think DeSantis would have failed out of the classes I took at Cal.


Respectfully, dimitrig and you both made way too sweeping claims in saying -- respectively -- "I think there are a lot of people here smarter than (DeSantis) is - perhaps everyone" and "No, people here are not smarter than DeSantis. Otherwise, they would have done better in school and accomplished more."

Obviously, it's not true that "perhaps everyone" on Bear Insider "is smarter than DeSantis." Nor is it true that (presumably none of the) "people here are ... smarter than DeSantis.

I hope my points don't misinterpret your positions, but let me know if so ....

First, what does it mean to be "more accomplished" ? Some people think "accomplishment" is measured my income or wealth. By this metric, a lot of popular social media content creators are more "accomplished" than Ron DeSantis, even though many never graduated High School and came from far more "disadvantaged" backgrounds.

Second, what does it mean to be "smarter" ? DeSantis majored in History at Yale before getting his law degree at Harvard. He went on to be elected Governor of Florida.

Great! That's definitely a resume, but does that make him automatically "smarter than" Cal Boalt (or "Berkeley Law") grads with respect to law or Cal History majors with respect to History? Nope! Does that make him "smarter than" the Cal STEM grads here with respect to science, technology, engineering and Math?

The last point is what I think dimitrig was hinting at: just because you got a History degree from Yale and a Law degree from Harvard doesn't mean you could survive through to a Cal STEM degree, regardless of how elite Yale and Harvard certainly are.

So while DeSantis has a list of impressive accomplishments, it is pretty subjective to suggest he has accomplished more than the Cal grads on this board (or even -- by some measures -- many internet content creators who never went to college.)

It is a lot more objectively certain that many Cal grads are "smarter than" DeSantis in History and Law. With respect to our STEM majors, I would say practically all -- including me! -- are likely "smarter than" DeSantis in our respective majors.

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I definitely don't mean wealth. DeSantis does not have a lot. I definitely have more. But I still think he accomplished more than I did. I went the easier route of law firm, management and hedge fund. It's tougher to go to military, Congress and Governor. That's what I meant. Being Governor is a bigger accomplishment than most have realized here.

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Again, a record of serving in the military, Congress and as Governor is impressive, to say the least. Something tells me though, based on your background, that many would think you have done more to prove your "smarts."

Now, if you've read more than a few of my posts, you'll know I think DeSantis' politics are a non-starter. Embracing the "Anti-Woke" social agenda of his advisor Chris Rufo was a terrible decision, and in itself disqualifies him as a potential national leader.

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Christopher Columbus Says Slavery Was ‘Better than Getting Killed’ in New Videos Approved for Florida Students https://t.co/8UYhJyNvdK

— People (@people) August 10, 2023

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Yep. I'm sure I'm more moderate than most Republican leaning voters but our times seem to scream for a candidate that just preaches common sense values. Instead we are getting outlandish name calling grandstanding. I won't vote for Trump or DeSantis.
Vivek.

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going4roses said:

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Keywords : may not

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okaydo said:

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Christopher Columbus Says Slavery Was ‘Better than Getting Killed’ in New Videos Approved for Florida Students https://t.co/8UYhJyNvdK

— People (@people) August 10, 2023

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OsoDorado said:

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calbear93 said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Yep. I'm sure I'm more moderate than most Republican leaning voters but our times seem to scream for a candidate that just preaches common sense values. Instead we are getting outlandish name calling grandstanding. I won't vote for Trump or DeSantis.
Vivek.

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Common sense values. That would be great. I may not vote for Trump or DeSantis but I will no longer vote for any candidates that cater to the progressive side either. Including local. Wish this country could vote for candidates like Sununu but primaries will ensure we only get dregs like Trump and Biden. Days of rationalizing voting for dregs like Biden is over. Will continue to shun Trumpists but fake liberals are just as bad.

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Let me pose a question perhaps relevant to you both:

Neither of you want to vote for Trump or Biden, but what if these are the Presidential candidates ultimately nominated by the 2 major parties? With respect to the 2024 election, will you:

a) hold your nose and vote for "the lesser of 2 evils" (if so, whom)?;
b) vote 3rd party or write-in some other candidate?; or
c) simply not vote in the Presidential election?

Whatever your respective answers -- regarding a), b) or c) -- please elaborate.

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I don't want to dwell on this DeSantis thing but I will say :

1. He was a very good baseball player. I suspect that played into his admission to Yale. Maybe not, but it is worth acknowledging as a possibility.

2. In a more general sense there are a lot of people at Yale that aren't all that smart. Do not put too much stock into where someone went to school. I met a young woman yesterday who went to Florida Tech and she is doing amazing research that is coveted by both the DoD and commercial companies. I did ask her how she ended up at such an unknown school. She said that she wanted to go to MIT or Stanford but that at the time she was working for Delta Airlines and Florida Tech was one of the schools that Delta would reimburse tuition for and so she ended up there. She said she has no regrets as her decision worked out very well for her. The field I work in is full of very brilliant engineers and scientists and most of them did not go to Ivy League schools. So what?

3. I have yet to read or hear of something DeSantis has done which is anything but stupid. You may say the same about me, but I am bull****ting on a sports board. This guy is the governor. If he constantly does and says dumb things as part of his job as governor then maybe he just isn't that smart.

By the way, at Cal I took Astronomy. Chemistry, Upper Div Math, Upper Div Physics, upper Div CS and my electives were classes like Philosophy, Economics, Classics, and Anthropology. I never got lower than an A in any non-STEM course and that was with me not devoting much time to it because I was being killed with workload for my other courses. I probably could be an Archaeologist right now as my professor and TAs were really pushing me to go that route and I did well. Would I be smarter if I was an archaeology professor at Harvard or Cambridge or would that have just been a career choice?

I am not going to be one of those people that says people in STEM are smarter than anyone else, because I certainly could not have passed my roommates Spanish and French literature courses that required the essays to be written in the foreign language. We all have unique skills and abilities. Intelligence is hard to quantify.

One of the smartest guys I know is a peon engineer who went to Caltech. He still lives in the same 1 bedroom apartment and drives the same old car he always did. He never advanced in his career. Once he got recruited to be a quant on Wall Street. He doubled his salary but quit within 2 years because he didn't like it, didn't like the people, didn't like New York. He is back to his old job. I guarantee you he is smarter than you, me, and DeSantis but other than his Caltech degree there is nothing that would indicate that. Give him a math problem to solve, though.

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