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The Official Russiagate Was BS Thread

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President Trump is indulging his fondness for Vladimir Putin at a moment of acute political peril, forcing Republicans in the midterms to take cover as he showers Moscow with one-sided concessions, Axios' Zachary Basu writes.

Why it matters: With just three weeks until the election, Trump is rekindling a decade-long, scandal-scarred relationship with a dictator reviled by most Americans including his own supporters.

Zoom in: Since speaking with Putin on Friday, Trump has embarked on a remarkable five-day campaign of diplomatic concessions and cover for Russia sparking bipartisan blowback just as voters prepare to cast their ballots.

On Friday, Trump announced a deal to unleash millions of tons of Russian diesel onto global markets, easing sanctions designed to starve Moscow's war revenues.

On Saturday, Trump lashed out at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for striking Russian refineries and demanded that Kyiv replace its leader.

On Sunday, Trump blindsided Zelensky by declaring an immediate "energy ceasefire." Russia has continued attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure, with no apparent consequences from Washington.

On Monday, Trump dismissed months of intelligence-based reports that Russia was enabling Iran's war effort by supplying information about U.S. military assets.

Yesterday, Trump doubled down on the diesel deal and brushed off concerns that the proceeds could finance Russia's war machine, even as GOP senators labeled it a "betrayal" and "a gift to our adversary."

Between the lines: The benefits to Russia are clear. Far less apparent is what Trump's concessions accomplish for American security, European allies or his own political fortunes.

For America: Energy analysts doubt the diesel deal will meaningfully ease fuel prices sent soaring by the Iran war.

For Europe: Washington is breaking ranks with a NATO alliance confronting a historic threat environment, as Russia escalates its hybrid campaign of sabotage, cyberattacks and drone incursions.

For Republicans: With control of Congress hanging in the balance, Trump is embracing a dictator viewed unfavorably by 81% of his own 2024 voters, according to a January YouGov poll.

The big picture: Trump's warm relationship with Putin has haunted his political career since 2016, when Russia interfered in the presidential election to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.

A decade of investigations, scandals and Washington outrage has done little to shake that affinity. If anything, the scrutiny appears to have hardened Trump's determination to defy the foreign-policy consensus."
Axios

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It's nice to be reminded what BS Russiagate was. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the top.
bearister
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BearlySane88 said:

It's nice to be reminded what BS Russiagate was. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the top.


….says the guy that never apologizes for Trump and calls him out when he deserves it.

You defending Trump until the last dog is hung:

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bearister said:

BearlySane88 said:

It's nice to be reminded what BS Russiagate was. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the top.


….says the guy that never apologizes for Trump and calls him out when he deserves it.


Please find a time when I've apologized for Trump. I'll wait.
concordtom
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Trump is The Devil.
His voters are sheep.

This has all been written about for thousands of years.

BearlySane88
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concordtom said:

Trump is The Devil.
His voters are sheep.

This has all been written about for thousands of years.




You supported a vegetable. You can't really judge anyone else on being sheep.
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BearlySane88 said:

It's nice to be reminded what BS Russiagate was. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the top.

I can't believe people are still hanging onto this myth.
bearister
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FreeRangeBear said:

BearlySane88 said:

It's nice to be reminded what BS Russiagate was. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the top.

I can't believe people are still hanging onto this myth.

I can't believe Trump's disciples don't realize that Trump, himself, sees no need to hide it anymore. Go ahead. Embrace it. Trump won't get mad at you. As he has said on more than one occasion recently, he can do anything he wants. But keep your eye out for his resignation close to the end of his term and pardon by President Vance. There is way too much going on here for him to risk the legality of a self pardon. There is no precedent for it, and the consequences of its unenforceability would have dire consequences.
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concordtom
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Actually, I'm mostly vegan.
Go broccoli!
concordtom
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But first, the tanks.
Expect the tanks.
chazzed
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This is very unusual, to put it mildly.

BearlySane88
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chazzed said:

This is very unusual, to put it mildly.




No he has not.



Cal88
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Moscow, Idaho?
St Petersburg, FL?
Russian Hill??
Anarchistbear
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Maybe he's in an Ohio mental institution
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bearister said:

President Trump is indulging his fondness for Vladimir Putin at a moment of acute political peril, forcing Republicans in the midterms to take cover as he showers Moscow with one-sided concessions, Axios' Zachary Basu writes.

Why it matters: With just three weeks until the election, Trump is rekindling a decade-long, scandal-scarred relationship with a dictator reviled by most Americans including his own supporters.

Zoom in: Since speaking with Putin on Friday, Trump has embarked on a remarkable five-day campaign of diplomatic concessions and cover for Russia sparking bipartisan blowback just as voters prepare to cast their ballots.

On Friday, Trump announced a deal to unleash millions of tons of Russian diesel onto global markets, easing sanctions designed to starve Moscow's war revenues.

On Saturday, Trump lashed out at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for striking Russian refineries and demanded that Kyiv replace its leader.

On Sunday, Trump blindsided Zelensky by declaring an immediate "energy ceasefire." Russia has continued attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure, with no apparent consequences from Washington.

On Monday, Trump dismissed months of intelligence-based reports that Russia was enabling Iran's war effort by supplying information about U.S. military assets.

Yesterday, Trump doubled down on the diesel deal and brushed off concerns that the proceeds could finance Russia's war machine, even as GOP senators labeled it a "betrayal" and "a gift to our adversary."

Between the lines: The benefits to Russia are clear. Far less apparent is what Trump's concessions accomplish for American security, European allies or his own political fortunes.

For America: Energy analysts doubt the diesel deal will meaningfully ease fuel prices sent soaring by the Iran war.

For Europe: Washington is breaking ranks with a NATO alliance confronting a historic threat environment, as Russia escalates its hybrid campaign of sabotage, cyberattacks and drone incursions.

For Republicans: With control of Congress hanging in the balance, Trump is embracing a dictator viewed unfavorably by 81% of his own 2024 voters, according to a January YouGov poll.

The big picture: Trump's warm relationship with Putin has haunted his political career since 2016, when Russia interfered in the presidential election to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.

A decade of investigations, scandals and Washington outrage has done little to shake that affinity. If anything, the scrutiny appears to have hardened Trump's determination to defy the foreign-policy consensus."
Axios




These aren't one-sided concessions.
dajo9
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BearlySane88 said:

chazzed said:

This is very unusual, to put it mildly.




No he has not.






Much respect to media that can admit they were wrong and explain why they were wrong. Much media will never do that - short of the threat of a billion dollar settlement
bearister
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Trump faces fresh questions over ties to 'humanitarian' Putin https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-faces-fresh-questions-over-164342286.html
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chazzed
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More pathetic submitting by this administration to Russia. The article is on the Financial Times website.

bearister
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Someday there will be an investigation of the the Polar LNG project in Alaska and the tentacles of Trump, Witkoff, Kushner, Trump, Jr. et al. will be found burrowed in deep in the bottom layers.
“Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside”
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