The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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movielover said:

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Holocaust ver2.0 is not what they had in mind but was inevitable


How is what's happening to children and women in Western Europe different?

Isn't "Never again", "Never again"?


Women and children in Europe are not being systematically murdered
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Anarchistbear said:

Holocaust ver2.0 is not what they had in mind but was inevitable

LOLOL
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Might take you a while to look at the map before you get it....
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Israeli army officially declares "neutralizing threat", killing two little boys age 8 and 11 who have crossed their imaginary lines.

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sycasey
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As I've been saying, the old guard Democrats are way out of step with the party base on this issue and will find that out sooner or later.

I'm skeptical of a lot of TikTok B.S. too, but you don't need that to form an opinion against Israel and its conduct in Gaza. Plenty of other evidence around.
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sycasey said:

As I've been saying, the old guard Democrats are way out of step with the party base on this issue and will find that out sooner or later.

I'm skeptical of a lot of TikTok B.S. too, but you don't need that to form an opinion against Israel and its conduct in Gaza. Plenty of other evidence around.


The thinking from the Democrat establishment here is that they only need to be slightly less supportive of Israel than the Trump administration and establishment GOP, who are comically subservient bootlickers when it comes to anything Israel. So the strategy is to keep the same policy but pay a bit more lip service to human rights in Palestine.
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The stories out of Gaza keep getting worse, no wonder the Israeli targeted and killed nearly 300 local journalists and don't let foreign journos in.
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Just read that Gaza is under 68 MILLION TONS of rubble.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

Just read that Gaza is under 68 MILLION TONS of rubble.



Israel bombed Gaza, an area smaller than the city of San Jose, with the equivalent of over a dozen Hiroshima bombs.

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Berkeley, where genocide meets dating

"Need someone to kiss under the mistletoe? Join a speed dating event that aims to connect those who are in solidarity with Palestine and challenging systems of oppression worldwide. Dabke lessons will follow. All proceeds will go towards PalEire, an organization helping Gaza students evacuate to Ireland. Saturday, Dec. 13, 1-4 p.m. Starry Plough Pub. $25 suggested donation"
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Trump's a transactional Zionist tool. The difference is he admits it. See his comments about Miriam Adelson

"Look at her sitting there so innocently. She's got $60 billion in the bank," Trump jokes about the GOP megadonor.

"Her husband was a very aggressive man, but I loved him… very supportive of me," Trump says of the casino mogul.

"I get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once… 'What do you love more? The United States or Israel?' She refused to answer. That might mean Israel," Trump says, smiling, while looking at the dual Israeli-American national.

Biden and Harris were no less beholding, pumped money and arms into genocide with the only policy initiative being there should be a cease fire- a cruel joke- on them as it turned out
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Aunburdened said:

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Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.
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sycasey said:

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Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.
sycasey
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Aunburdened said:

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Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.

Congratulations on your latest policy victories.
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Miriam Adelson and Allan Dershowitz decide Trump can run again but the biggest problem we face is antisemitism rather than a foreign pariah state as puppet master
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sycasey said:

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Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.

Congratulations on your latest policy victories.




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sycasey
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Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.

Congratulations on your latest policy victories.




What makes you think I don't agree with this criticism? I'm no fan of Democratic party leadership.

The difference is that I actually care about policy outcomes, so that's why I'm upset about it. You just seem to care about brow-beating people.
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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:





Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.

Congratulations on your latest policy victories.




What makes you think I don't agree with this criticism? I'm no fan of Democratic party leadership.

The difference is that I actually care about policy outcomes, so that's why I'm upset about it. You just seem to care about brow-beating people.

More policy outcomes from the party that cares about outcomes!



sycasey
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Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:





Yes, and he's still right that it was foolish for leftists to throw their weight behind Trump.

We got what we wanted. Democrats lost.

Congratulations on your latest policy victories.




What makes you think I don't agree with this criticism? I'm no fan of Democratic party leadership.

The difference is that I actually care about policy outcomes, so that's why I'm upset about it. You just seem to care about brow-beating people.

More policy outcomes from the party that cares about outcomes!



Your criticisms of Democratic leadership do not bother me. I agree with a lot of it.

That said, I note that this bill has more Democrats signed on than Republicans. Just as any universal health care bill would.
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