dimitrig said:
BearGoggles said:
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Zippergate said:
sycasey said:
I didn't think you guys would run with this stupid theory, but I guess I gave you too much credit. Sure, the Democrats ran a scheme to rig the election in multiple states that ONLY elected Senators and not the President. And not even enough Senators to win a majority! And not in Pennsylvania, the most important state!
This is seriously the argument? Lay off the opiates, man. The easier explanation is that Trump is just more popular than other Republican candidates. Seen plenty of evidence for this over the last 8 years.
So we're supposed to believe that because the Dems failed, there was no election fraud. Riiiiiiight. Then what do you do with 2020? I suppose by your logic, this proves that the 2020 election was stolen. And what do you do with all these reports by whistleblowers, experts and election observers of widespread cheating in all the battleground states? You just pretend that they don't exist. If you honest and gave this topic five minutes of thought, you would quickly realize that there are real restraints on the number of illegal votes that can be manufactured (unless we talking the Dominion voting machines which can be manipulated to show any result one wants). This is why one of Trump's strategies was "too big to rig."
Neither election was stolen. The results are consistent across battleground states. Trump won Wisconsin by 30,000 votes. Why not find these for Kamala?
I have better things to do than conspiracy theories. Let me know when someone is indicted
Like you, I'm highly dubious of these types of claims. Show me the evidence or stop.
However, the problem is that the way we run our election system (both before and after election day) leads to mistrust and these types of claims.
There needs to be uniform election rules and states need to count continuously and finish counting within 24 hours. No more counting ballots that arrive after election day. Voter ID. Stop ballot harvesting.
It is absurd that Florida can tally votes in a few hours while it takes Arizona/Nevada/California weeks. Totally unacceptable. It is abject incompetence that leads people to doubt the integrity of all vote counting.
It takes California a long time to tally the votes because:
"[M]ail-in ballots are accepted up to seven days after the election as long as they are postmarked by election day. In Texas, mail-in ballots must be received by Election Day or, if postmarked on election day, the following day. In Florida, mail-in ballots must be received by election day."
"This year, California sent out estimated 6.5 million vote-by-mail ballots costing counties roughly $11 million in printing and shipping to voters who did not end up casting a vote at all. And that complicates things for county election officials, who have no idea how many ballots remain uncounted in any given race, including the close ones."
"...only 59% of ballots were counted within two days,"
"California allows until Dec. 1 to "cure" problem ballots from voters who made a mistake, such as forgetting their signature, signing in the wrong place or not enclosing their ballot in the proper envelope. County election officials also try to cure ballots with signatures that don't match a voter's original registration card. As of Saturday, 129,286 ballots in California still needed to undergo the curing process, which involves reaching out to the voter to try to resolve the issue.
Compounding the delay is that under vote-by-mail rules in California, the state accepts postmarked ballots for a week after election night, whereas some states, such as Florida, do not accept them after polls close on Election Day."
