Return of the King said:

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Democrats' grand strategy for appealing to voters is unsurprisingly continuing their evolution to Republicans Lite. Same great taste, less filling!

Glad they're moving away from the dominance of small-dollar donors whose preferences may not align with the broader electorate to big-dollar donors whose preferences perfectly align with the electorate. https://t.co/3i74zx0d6L

— Will 🦥 Menaker (@willmenaker) March 2, 2025

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Not saying I am for "Republicans Lite", but it is better than Republicans Regular

Severance is this generation's re-packaged version of The Prisoner, minus the charm and imagination.



*Watching Severance is like that 3 hour movie that you walk out of with 10 minutes left because you literally don't give a f@uck.

bear2034 said:

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Only Trump could make liberals hate electric cars.

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) March 11, 2025

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That's a pretty good line. You guys remind me of broken clocks.

bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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The Democrats' rating dive is mostly driven by their own base being angry at how the party has handled its business in recent years. Can't say I blame them.

1. They basically lied to everyone about Biden's condition.
2. Got off to a good start with Kamala and then the Biden campaign folks seemed to lead them back to a losing strategy.
3. Now Schumer basically caving on the spending bill.

People are mad. Trump's falling approval suggests it isn't because they like the other side any better.

bear2034 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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Haha yep. Ignore the grifters who are losing clout and hence are trying to divide the MAGA and MAHA movements.

Trump has a mandate and it’s working!

pic.twitter.com/BS34D63MqV

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) March 16, 2025

Despite what people think about both political parties, the real takeaway is more people think the country is heading in right direction compared to November of last year. 27% vs 44% !

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It's early. The effects of Trump's policies are yet to be felt. Also, comparing a President two months into his term to a President in his last months in office is sort of an apples to oranges comparison.

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sycasey said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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The Democrats' rating dive is mostly driven by their own base being angry at how the party has handled its business in recent years. Can't say I blame them.

1. They basically lied to everyone about Biden's condition.
2. Got off to a good start with Kamala and then the Biden campaign folks seemed to lead them back to a losing strategy.
3. Now Schumer basically caving on the spending bill.

People are mad. Trump's falling approval suggests it isn't because they like the other side any better.

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1 Biden's deteriorating condition was no secret to most.
2. Kamala's selection with no election was part of the problem.
3. I don't think Schumer has anything to do with the ratings dive.

The problems go much deeper.

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Yes yes, you know everything about internal issues with Democrats. You are correct of course.

sycasey said:

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Yes yes, you know everything about internal issues with Democrats. You are correct of course.

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I know you won't leave the Democratic Party. But the Democratic Party has already left you.

bear2034 said:

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sycasey said:

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Yes yes, you know everything about internal issues with Democrats. You are correct of course.

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I know you won't leave the Democratic Party. But the Democratic Party has already left you.

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If the Republicans offer something I want then I will be happy to join them. But I suspect I'll be waiting a while.

sycasey said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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The Democrats' rating dive is mostly driven by their own base being angry at how the party has handled its business in recent years. Can't say I blame them.

1. They basically lied to everyone about Biden's condition.
2. Got off to a good start with Kamala and then the Biden campaign folks seemed to lead them back to a losing strategy.
3. Now Schumer basically caving on the spending bill.

People are mad. Trump's falling approval suggests it isn't because they like the other side any better.

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I think that is both fair and not fair......

I mean no one in the GOP is saying that things like last nights Twitter rage is unhinged. It clearly is. I think our current state of democracy makes it really hard for congressional leaders to speak truth to power - whether it is taking away Trumps Cell phone at night or saying that uncle joe is unwell.

I will say that I am not sure that DOGE (or deportations) are great hills to die on. I think the inconsistent economic strategy about tariffs are....but the upper midwest is chalk full of protectionists.

I think I would have come out on Day 1 with a "Strategy to combat inflation" which was about free trade, aggressive pro-ag policies and ensuring continued investment in renewables. Let DOGE be doge and just call it wierd and a side show and get back on message that we want to reduce inflation/keep the momentum of 2024 which was slowing prices. Let Trump be the guy who doesn't care.

PS. Let me add about base. I think underreported about the anger about Schumar (and the house action) is how critically important public employee unions are to the party and especially house primaries. I would love to see a deep dive that shows how many dems lost (or retired) when opposed by SEIU or ATA). The vast majority of American's probably are not losing much sleep over DOGE. They don't LIKE it but it isn't an existential get up and march in streets thing. But it IS a huge deal for public employee unions because today's DOT employee who gets unlawfully fired is tomorrow's Teacher who gets her pension slashed. It probably also resonates with tthe MSM who has been fighting its own losing battle with management who have been "right sizing" newsrooms for 2 decades.

Now both sides do this. Most americans are prochoice but good luck with that in the GOP. But sometimes you got to tell the base to pound sand/focus on the big picture.

socaltownie said:

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sycasey said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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The Democrats' rating dive is mostly driven by their own base being angry at how the party has handled its business in recent years. Can't say I blame them.

1. They basically lied to everyone about Biden's condition.
2. Got off to a good start with Kamala and then the Biden campaign folks seemed to lead them back to a losing strategy.
3. Now Schumer basically caving on the spending bill.

People are mad. Trump's falling approval suggests it isn't because they like the other side any better.

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I think that is both fair and not fair......

I mean no one in the GOP is saying that things like last nights Twitter rage is unhinged. It clearly is. I think our current state of democracy makes it really hard for congressional leaders to speak truth to power - whether it is taking away Trumps Cell phone at night or saying that uncle joe is unwell.

I will say that I am not sure that DOGE (or deportations) are great hills to die on. I think the inconsistent economic strategy about tariffs are....but the upper midwest is chalk full of protectionists.

I think I would have come out on Day 1 with a "Strategy to combat inflation" which was about free trade, aggressive pro-ag policies and ensuring continued investment in renewables. Let DOGE be doge and just call it wierd and a side show and get back on message that we want to reduce inflation/keep the momentum of 2024 which was slowing prices. Let Trump be the guy who doesn't care.

PS. Let me add about base. I think underreported about the anger about Schumar (and the house action) is how critically important public employee unions are to the party and especially house primaries. I would love to see a deep dive that shows how many dems lost (or retired) when opposed by SEIU or ATA). The vast majority of American's probably are not losing much sleep over DOGE. They don't LIKE it but it isn't an existential get up and march in streets thing. But it IS a huge deal for public employee unions because today's DOT employee who gets unlawfully fired is tomorrow's Teacher who gets her pension slashed. It probably also resonates with tthe MSM who has been fighting its own losing battle with management who have been "right sizing" newsrooms for 2 decades.

Now both sides do this. Most americans are prochoice but good luck with that in the GOP. But sometimes you got to tell the base to pound sand/focus on the big picture.

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DOGE stuff will matter if government services to citizens start getting blocked, or if the job cuts are deep enough that almost everyone knows someone who got fired by Trump. That will take time to register, though, if it happens at all.

Maybe. It will take airplanes falling out of sky. Bad service will be attributed to "that is just govmint....let's privatize it all!!'

sycasey said:

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socaltownie said:

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Maybe. It will take airplanes falling out of sky. Bad service will be attributed to "that is just govmint....let's privatize it all!!'

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I don't agree with that. If people's Medicaid payments (for example) start getting missed, they will blame the Trump government.

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Sure!!! Though remember they don't get medicaid..the provider does....bad payments would likely mean that some providers stop taking those patients so at least one step removed. Medicare would be a bigger problem since senior vote and anger quickly

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Pocahontas Says Yes said:

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sycasey said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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We need a reasonable Democratic Party to balance out the right but they can't seem to help themselves.

BREAKING: Americans' favorable view of the Democratic Party has fallen to 29%, the lowest ever recorded in CNN's polling dating back more than 30 years.

pic.twitter.com/VzJ6ZDLRBJ

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) March 16, 2025

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The Democrat's 29% favorable rating is indeed awful, but the GOP 36% favorable rating isn't much better. The real takeaway is that about 2/3 of the American people despise BOTH parties.

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The Democrats' rating dive is mostly driven by their own base being angry at how the party has handled its business in recent years. Can't say I blame them.

1. They basically lied to everyone about Biden's condition.
2. Got off to a good start with Kamala and then the Biden campaign folks seemed to lead them back to a losing strategy.
3. Now Schumer basically caving on the spending bill.

People are mad. Trump's falling approval suggests it isn't because they like the other side any better.

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Imagine believing that the reason Trump won was because the Democrats had a bad strategy led by Biden campaign folks. The election wasn't just a rejection of Biden or Kamala, though both have absolutely nothing to sell - no charisma, no positive plan for the country, just a defense of a status quo that long ago stopped working for most people. It was a rejection of the party as a whole.

"We're Not Trump" doesn't cut it anymore

🚨Chris Matthews: Democrats are at record low approval ratings because Trump and Elon tell “lie after lie after lie” —

“And nobody checks the facts anymore."

They are completely lost. pic.twitter.com/lovVGGPN7n

— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) March 17, 2025

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The Dems screwed up on a number of things, some tactical, some strategic, some fundamental. And yet they only lost the popular vote by something like 49.5% to 48%.

Of course, that could be argued the other way: The Dems managed to lose the popular vote to a horse's ass.

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There are multiple ways to look at this. You can also say that the Democrats campaigned so poorly, they lost to candidate whom they believe to be a fascist dictator