So you are playing partisan politics? Hypocrite!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
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This exactly illustrates the issue. If Hillary's email server was worthy of such attention (even if there was no evidence that any information had actually been leaked out of there) then certainly this incident is!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
China has a massive online espionage operation. Years ago I saw a hearing on CSPAN where we have good intell on where they snoop, the number one location being Taiwan data.
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
Oh yeah? Settled by who?movielover said:
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
Wiki: Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael T. Flynn, former United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell have said that it is likely that foreign governments were able to access the information on Clinton's server.
Did you copy and paste that from the Webster's Dictionary text under the word "Whataboutism?"
No deflection or distraction can help them….and the TDS excuse just took the last bus out of town.
No deflection or distraction can help them….and the TDS excuse just took the last bus out of town.
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From the same Wiki:movielover said:
Wiki: Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael T. Flynn, former United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell have said that it is likely that foreign governments were able to access the information on Clinton's server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversyQuote:
According to Pagliano, security logs of Clinton's email server showed no evidence of successful hacking. The New York Times reported that "forensic experts can sometimes spot sophisticated hacking that is not apparent in the logs, but computer security experts view logs as key documents when detecting hackers," adding the logs "bolster Mrs. Clinton's assertion that her use of a personal email account ... did not put American secrets into the hands of hackers or foreign governments."
So if it happened it would have had to have happened and left no trace for the investigators. Meanwhile, the Trump team just added a guy to their group chat who was able to screenshot and publish it in The Atlantic. Is this a serious comparison?
Go deeper.
You know what’s upsetting about Signal-gate?
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) March 26, 2025
The fact that Trump’s admin felt they had to use it b/c other government comms are being spied on from within our gov’t
Deep State got mad they couldn’t surveil Trump’s comms so they “poisoned the well” by sabotaging their Signal…
25% reduction.
RFK just fired another 10,000 HHS employees
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) March 27, 2025
This is on top of 10,000 who already quit
You know what we call 20,000 fewer woke
employees at HHS?
A good start pic.twitter.com/wNlDSyPSw8
sycasey said:This exactly illustrates the issue. If Hillary's email server was worthy of such attention (even if there was no evidence that any information had actually been leaked out of there) then certainly this incident is!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
I see at least two main differences here:
-Hillary deliberately conducted her official functions on private servers to hide her activities, while Hegseth and co were more like incompetent noobs. If that weren't the case, they wouldn't have put a journo like Goldberg on that chat group.
-The outrage generated here about these noobs' lack of professional protocol, vs the dismissal of Hillary's long-standing deliberate violations ("but her emails!").
Ignoring these facts is the hypocritical stance here.
Cal88 said:sycasey said:This exactly illustrates the issue. If Hillary's email server was worthy of such attention (even if there was no evidence that any information had actually been leaked out of there) then certainly this incident is!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
I see at least two main differences here:
-Hillary deliberately conducted her official functions on private servers to hide her activities, while Hegseth and co were more like incompetent noobs. If that weren't the case, they wouldn't have put a journo like Goldberg on that chat group.
No, they wanted those chats on Signal so they would later be deleted and untrackable. This is part of the strategy. Only yeah, they f***ed it up because they are incompetent.
This whole thing just gets worse and worse.
NEW! The Trump administration appears to have sent a married father with NO CRIMINAL RECORD to rot in a prison in El Salvador because of a PAPERWORK ERROR.
— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) March 27, 2025
This man doesn’t even have tattoos! But his paperwork has two different peoples’ ID numbers listed and the wrong last name! https://t.co/eHP0UJNUNE pic.twitter.com/oI05WX5oSR
sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:This exactly illustrates the issue. If Hillary's email server was worthy of such attention (even if there was no evidence that any information had actually been leaked out of there) then certainly this incident is!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
I see at least two main differences here:
-Hillary deliberately conducted her official functions on private servers to hide her activities, while Hegseth and co were more like incompetent noobs. If that weren't the case, they wouldn't have put a journo like Goldberg on that chat group.
No, they wanted those chats on Signal so they would later be deleted and untrackable. This is part of the strategy. Only yeah, they f***ed it up because they are incompetent.
Guys like Hegseth had very little experience working under an advanced security protocol and kept to their usual "civilian" standards. If secrecy were their main concern, they wouldn't have had a journo like Jeff Goldberg in their chat circle.
Right right, we should go easier on Hegseth because of his inexperience.Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:This exactly illustrates the issue. If Hillary's email server was worthy of such attention (even if there was no evidence that any information had actually been leaked out of there) then certainly this incident is!Cal88 said:calpoly said:Cal88 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:Jeffrey Goldberger is obsessed with Trump and is a hoax peddler.movielover said:
Obsessed?
Your heroes Ratcliffe and Gabbard LIED.
They PERJURED themselves in front of Congress yesterday.
The exact timing of Bombs dropping is classified military intelligence.
There were elements of a War Plan on that Signal chat.
Those things are discussed only in a SCIF.
Atlantic magazine publishes Yemen strike messages shared in White House group chat
The Atlantic
This whole Signal chat brouhaha is trivial partisan politics. The real issue here is the Yemen and mideast policy itself.
The real story is that this administration is using Signal chat to avoid any record of their illegal activities. Using messaging apps like Signal to avoid creating records raises serious ethical concerns. Without a proper record of communications, it becomes difficult to hold officials responsible for their actions and decisions.
You don't say!?
I see at least two main differences here:
-Hillary deliberately conducted her official functions on private servers to hide her activities, while Hegseth and co were more like incompetent noobs. If that weren't the case, they wouldn't have put a journo like Goldberg on that chat group.
No, they wanted those chats on Signal so they would later be deleted and untrackable. This is part of the strategy. Only yeah, they f***ed it up because they are incompetent.
Guys like Hegseth had very little experience working under an advanced security protocol and kept to their usual "civilian" standards. If secrecy were their main concern, they wouldn't have had a journo like Jeff Goldberg in their chat circle.
Cal88 said:
Guys like Hegseth had very little experience working under an advanced security protocol and kept to their usual "civilian" standards. If secrecy were their main concern, they wouldn't have had a journo like Jeff Goldberg in their chat circle.
Are you aware of just how utterly STUPID this sounds???
Are you really this tone-deaf?
You're acting as though it was only ONE PERSON that was "inexperienced" and kept to their usual "civilian" standards.
Not a SINGLE PERSON on that Signal GROUP Chat ever said over the course of several days on this platform,
"Hey guys, don't you think we should move to a more secure platform?"
When are you gonna stop making pathetic excuses?
Wake up!
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movielover said:
A new cohort has flipped to MAGA - Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Elon Musk, and President Trump. Demicrat policies are at an abysmal 27% Approval Rating. And now a few piggybanks - USAID and NGOs - are being gutted.
You still a Tulsi Gabbard fan?
movielover said:
China has a massive online espionage operation. Years ago I saw a hearing on CSPAN where we have good intell on where they snoop, the number one location being Taiwan data.
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
Glad you aren't in charge of secure communications "years ago I heard". Says it all
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If China, Russia and Israel had been proven to have infiltrated Hillary's server, then it would be a slam dunk that the Trump 1 administration would have prosecuted her and she'd be behind bars. I suspect they could still prosecute her even now. The fact that the Trump DOJ isn't even mentioning the possibility when threatening literally hundreds of others is telling.cal83dls79 said:movielover said:
China has a massive online espionage operation. Years ago I saw a hearing on CSPAN where we have good intell on where they snoop, the number one location being Taiwan data.
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
Glad you aren't in charge of secure communications "years ago I heard". Says it all
Eastern Oregon Bear said:If China, Russia and Israel had been proven to have infiltrated Hillary's server, then it would be a slam dunk that the Trump 1 administration would have prosecuted her and she'd be behind bars. I suspect they could still prosecute her even now. The fact that the Trump DOJ isn't even mentioning the possibility when threatening literally hundreds of others is telling.cal83dls79 said:movielover said:
China has a massive online espionage operation. Years ago I saw a hearing on CSPAN where we have good intell on where they snoop, the number one location being Taiwan data.
I believe it's long settled that China, Russia, and Israel at minimum have HRCs homebrew server contents.
Glad you aren't in charge of secure communications "years ago I heard". Says it all
Not to mention that Hillary's email server HAS been investigated . . . a lot! As usual with her, they couldn't find anything, but of course the whispered suggestions will continue until they have the force of truth.
They buried it all.
China's really not interested in your grandmother's recipes or VallejoWags stock picks. They have thousands of online hackers monitoring our most important moves, not to mention their extensive spy network including Fang Fang, Dianne Feinstein's driver for 20 years, and shipping ties to Mitch McConnell. HRC would have been a top ten target.
China's really not interested in your grandmother's recipes or VallejoWags stock picks. They have thousands of online hackers monitoring our most important moves, not to mention their extensive spy network including Fang Fang, Dianne Feinstein's driver for 20 years, and shipping ties to Mitch McConnell. HRC would have been a top ten target.
movielover said:
They buried it all. .
No, all of these investigations were very public knowledge! Not a big secret! If they had the goods it would have come out.
talk about a guy that gets out of his lane …constantlymovielover said:
They buried it all.
China's really not interested in your grandmother's recipes or VallejoWags stock picks. They have thousands of online hackers monitoring our most important moves, not to mention their extensive spy network including Fang Fang, Dianne Feinstein's driver for 20 years, and shipping ties to Mitch McConnell. HRC would have been a top ten target.
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Yah, 650,000 emails reviewed in nine days. Sure.
And the same team that went after Trump exonerated HRC. No conflict there, eh?
And the same team that went after Trump exonerated HRC. No conflict there, eh?
Do you financial gurus have any guesstimates of how much Trump and his associates may be making in this stock market manipulation?
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Not sure if anyone has talked about this one yet. Honestly, no one should be traveling to the United States at all. If you happen to overstay for even a day or two, you could get tossed into jail with no way of getting out for weeks or months. This time they f***ed up and did it to a Canadian actress who could make an embarrassing stink in the media.
"To put things into perspective: I had a Canadian passport, lawyers, resources, media attention, friends, family and even politicians advocating for me. Yet, I was still detained for nearly two weeks" https://t.co/O4NUALkJip
— Nick Field (@nick_field90) March 20, 2025
I talked to @jasminemooney, the Canadian actor who ICE detained for nearly two weeks across three prisons with absolutely no explanation.
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) March 28, 2025
This is what she experienced
pic.twitter.com/07B082RNxs
Don't overstay, problem solved.
Canada, which just had their two top officials castigate President Trump re tariffs, now appear to have a change of heart.
President Trump announced an "Extremely Productive Call" with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney. Developing...
President Trump announced an "Extremely Productive Call" with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney. Developing...
Except if you read the story, that's not what she did. She was on an approved work visa that was suddenly removed because she had worked for a beverage company that used hemp as an ingredient.movielover said:
Don't overstay, problem solved.
And honestly, even if you do overstay, should that mean you get thrown into jail for two weeks or more while everyone you talk to just says "I don't know" when you ask when you'll be released back to your home country? She didn't even get out until she contacted people on the outside who got her story into the media. And when she was let go, they claimed they didn't know she had offered to pay her own way back to Canada. Only according to her, she had offered this multiple times and gotten no answer.
Again, if the government can do this stuff to these people with no oversight, that means they can do it to you.
thanks for the horrrrible testimony. timely reminder that, darn, these days america is the bad monster in the room.
"But her emails . . ."
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