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Big C
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MAGAs are not the brightest bulbs. The correct term for the athletes being banned from women's sports is "trans women," those born male that identify as women and transition. A trans man is someone born a woman who identities as a male.

I don't know a single case of a trans man trying to compete in sports against women.

It really helps if you are going to take a stance on an issue if you don't disclose to the world at the front end that you are a f@ucking quarter wit.

BTW, I agree that trans women should not compete against women in sports just from a fairness standpoint. Those trans women that deny that objective fact and insist on being able to compete are just being @$$holes.

Conversely, trans men competing against men in sports is no problemo but my guess is that is not really much of a Movement.

FYI there is a trans boy playing on my daughter's club sports team (12-13 yr olds). His talent level fits right in with the other players, plus he has female "parts", so nobody is bothered in the least by it.
I am asking this in good faith, in part because I'm not tracking this. Are you saying that a person born female, who identifies as trans male (but still has female parts) is playing youth sports on a girls team? If I'm understanding that correctly, then the trans boy has no competitive advantage and competing with the same biological sex is not an issue. Nor would it be uncomfortable for any of the team to share a locker room, etc. because they have the same parts.

That is what most people feel should be the case (at least until the trans boy takes testosterone or other similar drugs that would create a competitive advantage).

Yes, you are correct and I agree. I only brought it up because of what bearister said (emboldened). And of course there might be a difference between kids and adults. By adulthood, a trans male might have had hormonal therapy or whatever.
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Big C said:

BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

bearister said:

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MAGAs are not the brightest bulbs. The correct term for the athletes being banned from women's sports is "trans women," those born male that identify as women and transition. A trans man is someone born a woman who identities as a male.

I don't know a single case of a trans man trying to compete in sports against women.

It really helps if you are going to take a stance on an issue if you don't disclose to the world at the front end that you are a f@ucking quarter wit.

BTW, I agree that trans women should not compete against women in sports just from a fairness standpoint. Those trans women that deny that objective fact and insist on being able to compete are just being @$$holes.

Conversely, trans men competing against men in sports is no problemo but my guess is that is not really much of a Movement.

FYI there is a trans boy playing on my daughter's club sports team (12-13 yr olds). His talent level fits right in with the other players, plus he has female "parts", so nobody is bothered in the least by it.
I am asking this in good faith, in part because I'm not tracking this. Are you saying that a person born female, who identifies as trans male (but still has female parts) is playing youth sports on a girls team? If I'm understanding that correctly, then the trans boy has no competitive advantage and competing with the same biological sex is not an issue. Nor would it be uncomfortable for any of the team to share a locker room, etc. because they have the same parts.

That is what most people feel should be the case (at least until the trans boy takes testosterone or other similar drugs that would create a competitive advantage).

Yes, you are correct and I agree. I only brought it up because of what bearister said (emboldened). And of course there might be a difference between kids and adults. By adulthood, a trans male might have had hormonal therapy or whatever.


The issue generally is a boy transitioning to a girl and then playing girls' sports.
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BearGoggles said:

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BREAKING:

Democrats go right for Elon Musk's jugular and introduce a bill to ban special government employees from obtaining federal contracts directly threatening his lucrative government gravy train.

The best part is the name of the bill...

Representative Mark Pocan introduced the legislation which is titled "Eliminate Looting of Our Nation by Mitigating Unethical State Kleptocracy (ELON MUSK)."

"Elon Musk gets more than $20 billion in contracts from the US government and bought his way into a new role in the government where he can direct even more money to himself. Enough," Pocan wrote on X.

"My new bill, the ELON MUSK Act, will end this grift!" he added.

Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has become a lightning rod for criticism as the billionaire's unelected minions work to gut the federal government by rummaging through the Treasury Department's systems.

"@ElonMusk is ripping us off and like millions of Americans across the country, I'm pissed," Pocan added in another post.

"I'm taking action by introducing the ELON MUSK Act, preventing grifters like him from getting richer while pillaging our tax dollars for himself," he wrote.

Pocan is absolutely right. Musk's increasing control over our government while making money off government contracts is the definition of a conflict of interest. He and Trump are transitioning us from a democracy into a full-blown oligarchy.

Enough is enough. Pass this bill immediately.

I wonder if they'll enact the bill before Space X rescues the stranded astronauts? And good luck to the US Space program w/o Space X.

Also, please provide a list of the $20B in US contracts. I suspect most is Space X.

Amazing how dems dislike only one side of the kleptocracy. The irony is that Musk has more money/net worth than he can ever spend and accumulated the vast majority of his holdings before he became a Trump supporter. The $20B in contracts (if that's the real number) is irrelevant to his financial situation. The entire argument is illogical.



Why am I not surprised that you're unable to see any kind of conflict of interest with Musk being a "special government employee" and in charge of DOGE and has the ability to steer federal spending to his own self-interest?

Here. I will DUMB IT DOWN FOR YOU.

The governing statute on financial conflicts of interest prohibits special employees from "participating in matters that affect (their) financial interests."

Representative Pocan's bill would be similar to bans from members of Congress and other federal employees.

By the way, can you show me where in the Constitution that it says that the President has the legal right to disregard budget decisions by Congress or the basic structure of government (as outlined by the Constitution), much less an unelected and clearly conflicted subordinate who has not been confirmed to any real government position by the Senate?





Where is the list of $20B in contracts? Still waiting on that. Until you provide that list and an explanation of the alleged conflict, you're dodging the actual issue.

As usual, your partisan presentation doesn't mention that even if there's a conflict, it can in many cases be waived.

In terms of the bolded above, I can't answer your question precisely because the phrasing is conclusory. Of course a president cannot disregard the constitution or a valid law - and I posted that in terms of any attempt to abolish USAID which I said Trump cannot do. I note that you had no such objections when Biden tried to forgive student loans or engage in a variety of other clearly unconstitutional or unlawful acts - including refusing to enforce the border laws.

In terms of budget, it depends on how the appropriation is made and a variety of other factors. I wouldn't expect you to understand that given your tendency to ignore and dismiss legalities (as you did above in failing to mention the potentially available waiver).

If it is a direct and UNCONDITIONAL appropriation, then I believe the president is limited in his ability to disregard it (not sure about that). However, most appropriations are not of that nature and in many cases, there are statutes that give the president lots of discretion. For example, Biden withheld and delayed appropriations to Israel over Gaza policy which, I note again, you have said nothing about.

In the case of USAID, the statute expressly gives the President/Secretary of State to direct the actions and disbursements of the agency. I posted the link to that above.


Yawn.
As usual, you totally DEFLECT the primary point which is a conflict of interest.

If you want a list of the $20 Billion in contracts, perhaps you should contact House Representative Mark Pocan in Wisconsin for the list. It was his claim. Not mine.

Your reading comprehension continues to be very poor.
I've noticed that you conflate an awful lot.

DiabloWags
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Big C said:


Yes, the transgender thing is happening more and more. Curious situation. For minors, I'd just tell them that we accept them as they are, but to keep an open mind until they get older, i.e. less focus on defining gender, rather than more.

As I was replying to my good friend bear 2034, what I don't see happening as often as some people are afraid of is trans females dominating women's sports. It's isolated incidents.

True.

Especially given that any transwoman who participates in NCAA competition must lower their testosterone to required levels (5 nmol/L) and submit to multiple hormone testing. They can't compete until completing one full calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment.
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Liars, hypocrites, and morons.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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AunBear89 said:

Liars, hypocrites, and morons.
Are these your preferred pronouns even though they're not pronouns?
DiabloWags
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Big C said:



FYI there is a trans boy playing on my daughter's club sports team (12-13 yr olds). His talent level fits right in with the other players, plus he has female "parts", so nobody is bothered in the least by it.

Question: How did you become aware of your daughter's teammate's biological gender?
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

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003 will be along soon to explain to everyone how Trump is actually right and plane tickets only cost $2.


It sounds like a silly answer, but there is no context in the video. What is the topic?

Here, let me help you.
Trump is talking about the high-speed rail cost overruns in California.

Trump Says High-Speed Rail Isn't Needed Because 'You Take an Airplane It Costs You $2'

You're welcome!
bear2034
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Why didn't Trump ban women from men's sports?
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

AunBear89 said:

003 will be along soon to explain to everyone how Trump is actually right and plane tickets only cost $2.


It sounds like a silly answer, but there is no context in the video. What is the topic?

Here, let me help you.
Trump is talking about the high-speed rail cost overruns in California.

Trump Says High-Speed Rail Isn't Needed Because 'You Take an Airplane It Costs You $2'

You're welcome!



Thnx
bear2034
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Our government was run by unelected bureaucrats who were using state power against their political enemies.
DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:


Our government was run by unelected bureaucrats who were using state power against their political enemies.

You mean like this unelected guy?

bear2034
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DiabloWags said:

bear2034 said:


Our government was run by unelected bureaucrats who were using state power against their political enemies.
You mean like this guy?

Elon is a known entity, runs DOGE, and is tasked to reduce government spending and waste, and not using lawfare to target political enemies.
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Haloski
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movielover said:




Are you talking about the same Epstein that died in jail under custody of Trump's justice department or is it another Epstein? Maybe it's the one that lived on Trump's property with Trump knowing that he trolled the ground for underage victims and only kicked him out of his club when another member threatened to raise hell? I just need to know which Epstein this is.
movielover
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DiabloWags said:

Big C said:


Yes, the transgender thing is happening more and more. Curious situation. For minors, I'd just tell them that we accept them as they are, but to keep an open mind until they get older, i.e. less focus on defining gender, rather than more.

As I was replying to my good friend bear 2034, what I don't see happening as often as some people are afraid of is trans females dominating women's sports. It's isolated incidents.

True.

Especially given that any transwoman who participates in NCAA competition must lower their testosterone to required levels (5 nmol/L) and submit to multiple hormone testing. They can't compete until completing one full calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment.



They still have clear physical advantages in bone density, height, strength, lung capacity, ligament strength, etc.
movielover
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Epstein - the most notorious teenage pedophile on the planet - being killed under the watchful eye of former C-A employee and DOJ head - Bill Barr?
Haloski
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movielover said:

Epstein - the most notorious teenage pedophile on the planet - being killed under the watchful eye of former C-A employee and DOJ head - Bill Barr?


Ok, so yes it is the same guy that Trump was friends with until he was allegedly forced to kick him out of his club due to the concerns of a club member who was going to raise hell after an alleged incident with their daughter.

You should probably stop fooling yourself into thinking they're different people.
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Your girl, Peggy Noonan, appeared on the Bill Maher show and explained to his audience why Trump's handling of the media, availability, and transparency should impress even his haters.
movielover
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Yes, Donald Trump kicked out a wealthy and internationally connected multimillionaire. I believe Melissa Gates loathed JE.

Meanwhile, DC and NY politicians embraced him, along w Bill Clinton and Bill Gates. NPR said other names included David Copperfield, Prince Andrew, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Kevin Spacey, Alan Dershowitz, Bill Richardson and Al Gore. NPR: "The fact that people were named in these documents doesn't mean any of them face allegations or evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/03/1222130537/jeffrey-epstein-court-records-reveal-men-clinton-prince-andrew
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bear2034 said:


How many middle class Americans earn tips? How many take advantage of the salt cap or special tax breaks? Not that many, I'm guessing.
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How many people under report the f@uck out of tips anyway? Trump is giving the working class the tip of his dick by giving tax cuts to the techno oligarchs and other Really Rich Guys.
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bear2034
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bearister said:

How many people under report the f@uck out of tips anyway? Trump his giving the working class the tip of his dick by giving tax cuts to the techno oligarchs and other Really Rich Guys.

Kamala's plan was to raise taxes on everyone.

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DOGE nuggets:

- $8 Million to study the effects of flavored cigarettes on bisexuals and lesbians (Charles V Payne)

This Morning, the White House releases more USID projects for which you paid. DC Democrats are defending these expenditures.

$7.9 M to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid "binary-gendered language"
$20 M for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq
$4.5+ M to "combat disinformation" in Kazakhstan
$1.5 M for "art for inclusion of people with disabilities"
$2 M for sex changes and "LGBT activism" in Guatemala
$6 M to "transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles"
$2.1 M to help the BBC "value the diversity of Libyan society"
$10 M worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terror group
$25 M for Deloitte to promote "green transportation" in the country of Georgia
$2.5 M to promote "inclusion" in Vietnam
$16.8 million for a SEPARATE "inclusion" group in Vietnam
~$5 M to EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs funding bat virus research at the Wuhan lab
$20 M for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax
$1.1 M to an Armenian "LGBT group"
$1.2 M to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in Washington, D.C., build "a state-of-the-art 440 seat auditorium"
$1.5 M to promote "LGBT advocacy" in Jamaica
$2 M to promote "LGBT equality through entrepreneurship" in Latin America
$500K to solve sectarian violence in Israel (just ten days before the Hamas October 7 attack)
$2.3 M for "artisanal and small scale gold mining" in the Amazon
$3.9 M for "LGBT causes" in the western Balkans
$5.5 M for LGBT activism in Uganda
$6 M for advancing LGBT issues in "priority countries around the world"
$6.3 M for men who have s*x with men in South Africa
$8.3 M for "USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion"
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movielover said:

$20 M for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

Is this what Chuck Schumer was referring to in 2016 when he said the intelligence agencies have seven ways from Sunday to get back at you?
Big C
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DiabloWags said:

Big C said:



FYI there is a trans boy playing on my daughter's club sports team (12-13 yr olds). His talent level fits right in with the other players, plus he has female "parts", so nobody is bothered in the least by it.

Question: How did you become aware of your daughter's teammate's biological gender?


Within the sports club team (also same middle school) we know a family pretty well that knows that family really well. Was told right away that the kid uses "he/him", which seems a bit odd on the girls' team, but whatever. It works fine and nobody seems to care.

As others have stated, it becomes an issue when a trans girl/woman dominates in women's sports. i certainly get that, but just saying that it doesn't happen nearly as often as some would like you to believe.
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The NCAA has responded to Trump's EO rather quickly.
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My guess is President Trump gave them cover and removes years of headaches and lawsuits.
DiabloWags
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Big C said:

DiabloWags said:

Big C said:



FYI there is a trans boy playing on my daughter's club sports team (12-13 yr olds). His talent level fits right in with the other players, plus he has female "parts", so nobody is bothered in the least by it.

Question: How did you become aware of your daughter's teammate's biological gender?


Within the sports club team (also same middle school) we know a family pretty well that knows that family really well. Was told right away that the kid uses "he/him", which seems a bit odd on the girls' team, but whatever. It works fine and nobody seems to care.

As others have stated, it becomes an issue when a trans girl/woman dominates in women's sports. i certainly get that, but just saying that it doesn't happen nearly as often as some would like you to believe.

Yes, I would agree that it doesn't happen as nearly as often as some would like people to believe.
My question revolved around your statement that "plus he has female "parts".

That really is no one's business, especially when it concerns a 12 or 13 year old.
I find it bizarre that people would somehow "know" this.
It's a privacy issue.


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Haloski said:

movielover said:

Epstein - the most notorious teenage pedophile on the planet - being killed under the watchful eye of former C-A employee and DOJ head - Bill Barr?
Ok, so yes it is the same guy that Trump was friends with until he was allegedly forced to kick him out of his club due to the concerns of a club member who was going to raise hell after an alleged incident with their daughter.

You should probably stop fooling yourself into thinking they're different people.

Democratic Senator, Dick Durbin, is one the trying to block the release of Epstein client. Republican Senator Marsha Mashburn has been pushing for these records to go public.
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bear2034 said:

Haloski said:

movielover said:

Epstein - the most notorious teenage pedophile on the planet - being killed under the watchful eye of former C-A employee and DOJ head - Bill Barr?
Ok, so yes it is the same guy that Trump was friends with until he was allegedly forced to kick him out of his club due to the concerns of a club member who was going to raise hell after an alleged incident with their daughter.

You should probably stop fooling yourself into thinking they're different people.

Democratic Senator, Dick Durbin, is one the trying to block the release of Epstein client. Republican Senator Marsha Mashburn has been pushing for these records to go public.


Trump wasn't a client. He just seemed to know all about what was going on and let Epstein use his property as a trolling ground. He stood idly by.
 
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