Official Trump / Vance Administration Thread

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Cal88
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Trump goes full ret@rd, usury mode:


sycasey
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Honestly, what is the plan here?



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A Two-Headed Coin That Always Comes Up 'Trump' - The New York Times

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"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
sycasey
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Sleepy Don

DiabloWags
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Sometimes you need to take a nap after dismantling SNAP benefits and taking away health care from Americans.

It's a lot of work.
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Cal88
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movielover
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sycasey said:

Sleepy Don




Autopen slept for four years and the Pravda media covered it up.
movielover
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Maybe the Trifecta President Trump offered was too much for Shutdown Schumer: HC dollars to consumers, not Big Pharma; airports grinding down before Turkey Day; and POTUS Trump suggesting Tariff rebates of $2,000 per non-Wall Street American.



movielover
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Sounds like Chess.

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DiabloWags
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movielover said:

. . . and POTUS Trump suggesting Tariff rebates of $2,000 per non-Wall Street American.



Whatever happened to those DOGE Dividend Checks?
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bearister
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"President Trump blames Democrats, the shutdown and media bias for his party's shellacking last Tuesday, Axios' Marc Caputo writes.

Why it matters: What he leaves out is his own role in Republicans' election wipeout and the contradictions in his policies and messaging.

It's hard to argue you care about the working class while you're fighting to not fund SNAP payments.

It's hard to argue Democrats are to blame for the shutdown when your party controls all of Congress.

It's hard to argue prices are coming down everywhere when they're obviously going up for coffee, orange juice, ground beef, energy and housing.

It's hard to argue you're fixated on economic angst at home when you spend a lot of time talking about other countries, including on an overseas trip during a domestic shutdown. And then there are the White House renovations, the weekend trips to South Florida, golfing, and a "Great Gatsby"-themed party at Trump's Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach.

Reality check: Trump does have one clear, consistent message,Democrats need to end the shutdown. And there's an explanation for each of his seemingly muddled positions.

But in politics, when you're explaining, you're losing. And polls show more voters blaming Trump and the GOP for the shutdown. Public approval of Trump's job performance began to crater in late October, four weeks into the shutdown."
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movielover
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Four Obamacare lies.

https://www.facebook.com/734620481/posts/pfbid02vJ69yzWooFTN16rgJSDKZFLpZbZNeuTrtRVYDcuRoM55FisxGMVuLmaQB47K8n1jl/?mibextid=CDWPTG
Strykur
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Shutdown over, Dems folded, capitulation complete
bearister
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Strykur said:

Shutdown over, Dems folded, capitulation complete

This is why they folded:

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Strykur
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bearister said:

Strykur said:

Shutdown over, Dems folded, capitulation complete

This is why they folded:


Agreed, a few flight cancellations and they surrendered
Big C
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bearister, what is all that about? I admit to not following yet another one of these govt. shutdown things particularly closely... it's crap like this that -- 40+ years ago -- discouraged me from making my career in DC
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Big C said:

bearister, what is all that about? I admit to not following yet another one of these govt. shutdown things particularly closely... it's crap like this that -- 40+ years ago -- discouraged me from making my career in DC

I scrapped any idea of going into politics only because the money is not very good, unless you want to grift to the max like Pelosi
movielover
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Or Feinstein... McConnell... Ryan ...
movielover
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Party leader Mamdani condems the deal.


sycasey
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Strykur said:

Shutdown over, Dems folded, capitulation complete

In the end, just as feckless as we all assumed.
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cal83dls79
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Check your health plan cost lately?. Cheapest plan in Maine is $1,200 per month. Double from last year.
With crazy deductibles and copay's. It's not clear if it's really dawning on people yet
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bearister
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Strykur said:

Big C said:

bearister, what is all that about? I admit to not following yet another one of these govt. shutdown things particularly closely... it's crap like this that -- 40+ years ago -- discouraged me from making my career in DC

I scrapped any idea of going into politics only because the money is not very good, unless you want to grift to the max like Pelosi

1000 x Pelosi grift = a single Trump fart
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cal83dls79 said:

Check your health plan cost lately?. Cheapest plan in Maine is $1,200 per month. Double from last year.
With crazy deductibles and copay's. It's not clear if it's really dawning on people yet

Per Google search, the average cost for employer provided healthcare in 2024 are
- Individual: @9K
- Family: @26K

There are some basics that we should all be able to agree to:
  • HC costs are outrageous.
  • Obamacare doesn't work - per the example above its expenses are even worse than the employer negotiated rates in the private sector.
  • Increased government subsidies is precisely the wrong thing to do in terms of fixing this cost problem; a guaranteed supply of revenue - funded by the government - will only further increase costs / insurance sector profits.
By way of comparison, Medicare costs the government about 18K per participant. I do not know if that number equates to the individual rate or the family plan rate. And we also know that Medicare doesn't pay providers very much, which is why it isn't accepted everywhere.
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cal83dls79
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I don't think those numbers mean anything to people. What will matter is when they go shopping for plans this year and the ensuing price shock. The blame game is in full force. Trump said he'd fix it, but he can wiggle out for sure.
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movielover
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"BREAKING: Sen. Angus King admits the government shutdown was a Democrat strategy that backfired and fires back at Bernie Sanders for calling him a "traitor."

"I don't want to land at an airport in the United States with a sleepy air traffic controller because they're working double shifts. So, any good general, if the strategy isn't working, you change tactics particularly if your own troops are at risk."

"King added that Democrats' shutdown plan caused "collateral damage to the American people" while achieving nothing:

"The goal wasn't being achieved… so we're going to change the narrative."

"And when asked about Bernie calling moderates betrayers, King hit back hard:

"What was your strategy, man? What was your end game? Extend the shutdown through Christmas? Thanksgiving? Is that going to get us anywhere?"

Brutal honesty from within the Democrat ranks even they admit the "Trump shutdown" was their own failed plan."
Big C
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The minority party always loses these games of chicken. Weren't the Dems watching what happened the last 5-10 years? If you're going to show you can "fight", you need to pick the right spots, but Schumer and Jeffries didn't want to seem like they were just giving in... again.

Dems best hope now is that the affordability thing keeps going in the wrong direction as we get closer to the mid-terms and that Trump's solution to said is to be flying around the world visiting foreign leaders... while building lavish ballrooms here at home.
Cal88
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movielover said:



I shudder to think what a Trump administration redesigned and overhauled air traffic control system would be like.
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tequila4kapp
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In that same vein, I enjoyed this Reason.com article: Is Trump a Socialist?

https://reason.com/2025/11/07/is-trump-a-socialist/
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