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Big C
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Why does Trump hire so many people that lie?



Have you paid attention to government before? Sadly it's an all sides issue


More "whataboutism"
I've found that to be your standard default mode.

I asked specifically about TRUMP hiring people that have no integrity and repeatedly lie.

Integrity doesnt appear to be valued by Trump.
The question is why?



And I've found you to repeatedly same the same four things over and over again.

Name me a politician who doesn't lie? Name me a president who hasn't hired someone who has lied? Doesn't mean I like it or approve of it but half of the things you say he lies about are just him being Trump and speaking with hyperbole. The other half are a lie only because you don't like what he says, not because it's factually incorrect. We all have different sources and different numbers and they all suck in some way. Nobody is impartial. Nobody is unbiased. You have made it a goal of yours to defame your president as often as possible and then defame his supporters and that's not healthy. I encourage you to take a break from politics for awhile. Unless this is just your online persona, then good acting to you. If it's you in the real world too, take a breather. We all want America to be successful, we just don't all want it to get there in the same way.

Hoping for your health, physical and mental.

I'm pretty sure the Presidents from the Democratic Party have never lied. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Why does Trump hire so many people that lie?



Have you paid attention to government before? Sadly it's an all sides issue


More "whataboutism"
I've found that to be your standard default mode.

I asked specifically about TRUMP hiring people that have no integrity and repeatedly lie.

Integrity doesnt appear to be valued by Trump.
The question is why?



And I've found you to repeatedly same the same four things over and over again.

Name me a politician who doesn't lie? Name me a president who hasn't hired someone who has lied? Doesn't mean I like it or approve of it but half of the things you say he lies about are just him being Trump and speaking with hyperbole. The other half are a lie only because you don't like what he says, not because it's factually incorrect. We all have different sources and different numbers and they all suck in some way. Nobody is impartial. Nobody is unbiased. You have made it a goal of yours to defame your president as often as possible and then defame his supporters and that's not healthy. I encourage you to take a break from politics for awhile. Unless this is just your online persona, then good acting to you. If it's you in the real world too, take a breather. We all want America to be successful, we just don't all want it to get there in the same way.

Hoping for your health, physical and mental.

I'm pretty sure the Presidents from the Democratic Party have never lied. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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While Donald Trump's supporters often characterize his statements as "truthful hyperbole"a term he popularized in The Art of the Dealfact-checkers and scholars argue this label is frequently inaccurate for several reasons:

Difference in Intent: Hyperbole is an exaggeration used for emphasis where the literal truth is still grounded in some fact (e.g., "I caught a foot-long fish" when it was actually nine inches). A lie is a deliberate falsehood where the underlying fact is missing entirely (e.g., "I caught a fish" when no fish was caught).

Verifiable Falsehoods: Many of Trump's claims are not mere exaggerations but are demonstrably false and easily disproven with data.

Examples include:
Claiming he inherited the worst inflation in history, when it was actually 1.4% at his first inauguration.

Asserting that 25 million people entered the country illegally during the Biden administration, far exceeding official records of approximately 11 million encounters.

Repeating that the 2020 election was stolen, a claim rejected by over 60 courts and multiple audits.

Repetition of Debunked Claims: A hallmark of hyperbole is that it is often a one-off rhetorical flourish. Trump, however, has been noted for his relentless repetition of claims even after they have been explicitly debunked by experts and his own administration.

Strategic Misinformation: Communication experts suggest he uses a "firehose of falsehood" techniqueflooding the public with so many inaccuracies that it becomes difficult for the audience to distinguish truth from fiction, a process that goes far beyond simple exaggeration for effect.

Scale of Falsehoods: According to The Washington Post, Trump made over 30,000 false or misleading claims during his first term. PolitiFact found that approximately 76% of his checked statements were "Mostly False," "False," or "Pants on Fire".

Since starting his second term on January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump has made numerous false and misleading statements according to fact-checkers from CNN, The New York Times, and The Associated Press.

Economic Claims
Inflation: Trump has repeatedly claimed to have "stopped inflation in its tracks" or that there is "virtually no inflation". In reality, year-over-year inflation remained around 2.7% to 3.0% throughout much of 2025.

Grocery Prices: He frequently asserts that grocery prices are "going down". While specific items like eggs have decreased, overall grocery prices rose by approximately 1.4% to 1.9% during his first year back in office.

Drug Prices: Trump claimed his policies would "slash drug prices by 200%, 300%... even 900%". Fact-checkers noted these figures are mathematically impossible, as a 100% reduction would make drugs free.

Investment: He stated the U.S. secured over $18 trillion in new investment commitments. The White House's own website cited a lower figure of $9.6 trillion, which researchers also found to be an exaggeration of vague bilateral trade pledges.

Immigration and Crime
Migration Numbers: Trump claimed 25 million migrants entered the U.S. under the Biden administration. Official data recorded fewer than 11 million "encounters," many of whom were immediately expelled.

Prison Population: He repeated claims that foreign countries like Venezuela are "opening their jails" to send criminals to the U.S.. Experts and intelligence assessments have found no evidence of such systematic efforts.

Crime in D.C.: Trump claimed Washington, D.C. had "no murders" for six months following National Guard deployment. Local homicide records show dozens of murders occurred during that period.

Foreign Policy and Defense
Settling Wars: He frequently claims to have "settled eight wars" in 10 months. Fact-checks show this list includes diplomatic disputes that were never wars (Egypt-Ethiopia) and conflicts that are still ongoing (DR Congo-Rwanda, Israel-Hamas).

NATO Contributions: Trump claimed the U.S. gets "absolutely nothing" from NATO and that allies "stayed back" in Afghanistan. NATO allies invoked Article 5 to support the U.S. after 9/11, and countries like Denmark suffered their highest per capita combat deaths in Afghanistan supporting U.S. operations.

Panama Canal: He falsely asserted that "China is operating" or "controls" the Panama Canal. The canal has been operated by the Panamanian government since 1999.

Health and Science
Autism and Tylenol: In September 2025, Trump claimed Tylenol taken during pregnancy is the "cause of autism". Major medical organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics disputed this, noting that current science shows correlation but not causation.

Vaccines: He claimed the Amish do not vaccinate and have "essentially no autism". Studies have shown that both claims are factually incorrect.
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bearister said:

While Donald Trump's supporters often characterize his statements as "truthful hyperbole"a term he popularized in The Art of the Dealfact-checkers and scholars argue this label is frequently inaccurate for several reasons:

Difference in Intent: Hyperbole is an exaggeration used for emphasis where the literal truth is still grounded in some fact (e.g., "I caught a foot-long fish" when it was actually nine inches). A lie is a deliberate falsehood where the underlying fact is missing entirely (e.g., "I caught a fish" when no fish was caught).

Verifiable Falsehoods: Many of Trump's claims are not mere exaggerations but are demonstrably false and easily disproven with data.

Examples include:
Claiming he inherited the worst inflation in history, when it was actually 1.4% at his first inauguration.

Asserting that 25 million people entered the country illegally during the Biden administration, far exceeding official records of approximately 11 million encounters.

Repeating that the 2020 election was stolen, a claim rejected by over 60 courts and multiple audits.

Repetition of Debunked Claims: A hallmark of hyperbole is that it is often a one-off rhetorical flourish. Trump, however, has been noted for his relentless repetition of claims even after they have been explicitly debunked by experts and his own administration.

Strategic Misinformation: Communication experts suggest he uses a "firehose of falsehood" techniqueflooding the public with so many inaccuracies that it becomes difficult for the audience to distinguish truth from fiction, a process that goes far beyond simple exaggeration for effect.

Scale of Falsehoods: According to The Washington Post, Trump made over 30,000 false or misleading claims during his first term. PolitiFact found that approximately 76% of his checked statements were "Mostly False," "False," or "Pants on Fire".

Since starting his second term on January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump has made numerous false and misleading statements according to fact-checkers from CNN, The New York Times, and The Associated Press.

Economic Claims
Inflation: Trump has repeatedly claimed to have "stopped inflation in its tracks" or that there is "virtually no inflation". In reality, year-over-year inflation remained around 2.7% to 3.0% throughout much of 2025.

Grocery Prices: He frequently asserts that grocery prices are "going down". While specific items like eggs have decreased, overall grocery prices rose by approximately 1.4% to 1.9% during his first year back in office.

Drug Prices: Trump claimed his policies would "slash drug prices by 200%, 300%... even 900%". Fact-checkers noted these figures are mathematically impossible, as a 100% reduction would make drugs free.

Investment: He stated the U.S. secured over $18 trillion in new investment commitments. The White House's own website cited a lower figure of $9.6 trillion, which researchers also found to be an exaggeration of vague bilateral trade pledges.

Immigration and Crime
Migration Numbers: Trump claimed 25 million migrants entered the U.S. under the Biden administration. Official data recorded fewer than 11 million "encounters," many of whom were immediately expelled.

Prison Population: He repeated claims that foreign countries like Venezuela are "opening their jails" to send criminals to the U.S.. Experts and intelligence assessments have found no evidence of such systematic efforts.

Crime in D.C.: Trump claimed Washington, D.C. had "no murders" for six months following National Guard deployment. Local homicide records show dozens of murders occurred during that period.

Foreign Policy and Defense
Settling Wars: He frequently claims to have "settled eight wars" in 10 months. Fact-checks show this list includes diplomatic disputes that were never wars (Egypt-Ethiopia) and conflicts that are still ongoing (DR Congo-Rwanda, Israel-Hamas).

NATO Contributions: Trump claimed the U.S. gets "absolutely nothing" from NATO and that allies "stayed back" in Afghanistan. NATO allies invoked Article 5 to support the U.S. after 9/11, and countries like Denmark suffered their highest per capita combat deaths in Afghanistan supporting U.S. operations.

Panama Canal: He falsely asserted that "China is operating" or "controls" the Panama Canal. The canal has been operated by the Panamanian government since 1999.

Health and Science
Autism and Tylenol: In September 2025, Trump claimed Tylenol taken during pregnancy is the "cause of autism". Major medical organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics disputed this, noting that current science shows correlation but not causation.

Vaccines: He claimed the Amish do not vaccinate and have "essentially no autism". Studies have shown that both claims are factually incorrect.


Thank you for your AI analysis.
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Nice counter.

What is the incentive to spend more than 10 seconds countering the misinformation that your crew spends 15 seconds per post (in hundreds of aggregate posts) plastering on this site daily?

When are the tech bros that are getting the tax breaks going to start giving Trump the key to AI so it will confirm his lies?
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DiabloWags
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Why does Trump hire so many people that lie?



Have you paid attention to government before? Sadly it's an all sides issue


More "whataboutism"
I've found that to be your standard default mode.

I asked specifically about TRUMP hiring people that have no integrity and repeatedly lie.

Integrity doesnt appear to be valued by Trump.
The question is why?



And I've found you to repeatedly same the same four things over and over again.

Name me a politician who doesn't lie? Name me a president who hasn't hired someone who has lied? Doesn't mean I like it or approve of it but half of the things you say he lies about are just him being Trump and speaking with hyperbole. The other half are a lie only because you don't like what he says, not because it's factually incorrect. We all have different sources and different numbers and they all suck in some way. Nobody is impartial. Nobody is unbiased. You have made it a goal of yours to defame your president as often as possible and then defame his supporters and that's not healthy. I encourage you to take a break from politics for awhile.


Trump doesnt need any of my help.
He defiles the Office and our Republic all by HIMSELF.

For some reason, you are blind to that.
And youre giving me advice?

Lmao.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Why does Trump hire so many people that lie?



Have you paid attention to government before? Sadly it's an all sides issue


More "whataboutism"
I've found that to be your standard default mode.

I asked specifically about TRUMP hiring people that have no integrity and repeatedly lie.

Integrity doesnt appear to be valued by Trump.
The question is why?



And I've found you to repeatedly same the same four things over and over again.

Name me a politician who doesn't lie? Name me a president who hasn't hired someone who has lied? Doesn't mean I like it or approve of it but half of the things you say he lies about are just him being Trump and speaking with hyperbole. The other half are a lie only because you don't like what he says, not because it's factually incorrect. We all have different sources and different numbers and they all suck in some way. Nobody is impartial. Nobody is unbiased. You have made it a goal of yours to defame your president as often as possible and then defame his supporters and that's not healthy. I encourage you to take a break from politics for awhile.


Trump doesnt need any of my help.
He defiles the Office and our Republic all by HIMSELF.

For some reason, you are blind to that.
And youre giving me advice?

Lmao.



You cut out the most important part of my post.

" I encourage you to take a break from politics for awhile. Unless this is just your online persona, then good acting to you. If it's you in the real world too, take a breather. We all want America to be successful, we just don't all want it to get there in the same way.

Hoping for your health, physical and mental."

DiabloWags
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I don't post 50x a day here like you do.
Im npt nearly as invested in this forum as you are.

Perhaps it is you that needs to take a break.
Enjoy your evening.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

I don't post 50x a day here like you do.
Im npt nearly as invested in this forum as you are.

Perhaps it is you that needs to take a break.
Enjoy your evening.



Here, let me help.

https://internetaddictsanonymous.org/
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DiabloWags said:

I don't post 50x a day here like you do.
Im npt nearly as invested in this forum as you are.

Perhaps it is you that needs to take a break.
Enjoy your evening.



It's not the amount of posts I'm speaking on. We've been over that nearly 20 times already.

It's the way you get so fired up and emotional over internet squabbles and "news" stories that are gone by the end of the day. It seems unhealthy and can't possibly be bringing you joy in life.
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Another lying Epstein scumbag.

Trump's Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.



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Nothing to see here.
Just a "re-truth" just like Trump.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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< giggle snort > ummm, i meant Shame
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Trump bringing back Columbus Day.

Does anyone really think he knows how Columbus Day originated?

It's highly ironic that he's now trying to correct the "wrongs" of our nation when it comes to Italian immigrants that were called sub-human vermin.

Never mind that Leif Erikson was thought to be the first European to have set foot on continental America, about half a millennium before Christopher Columbus.

But Trump's only interested in bending history to pimp Italian votes.


Trump moving toward Christopher Columbus statue installation on White House grounds


Trump taking steps toward installing a Columbus statue near the White House - ABC News
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:


These guys are very good at finding the one poll that looks good for Trump.


That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll.





The TRUTH is most folks can do a task in fifteen minutes that appears to take you hours. It is UNFORTUNATE that you don't realize it. Clearly your assumption that other people are as SLOW as you are is affecting your view on others' use of time. It is SAD and UNFORTUNATE.


Where is the proof that anybody spends hours looking for ONE poll?

This shows a detachment from reality and how social media works today.
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Put-on Michelle Obama vs JD Vance.

This sounds like a woman that was gifted a six-figure job for token celebrity appearances... which is what she had!

How tone deaf. Private Air Force Two, maids, chefs, free lidging, drivers, Secret Service, world travel, hob nobbing with world leaders, multi-million-dollar post-retirement life... and she's complaining about paying for food? Really? Ingrate.
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movielover said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:


These guys are very good at finding the one poll that looks good for Trump.


That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll.





The TRUTH is most folks can do a task in fifteen minutes that appears to take you hours. It is UNFORTUNATE that you don't realize it. Clearly your assumption that other people are as SLOW as you are is affecting your view on others' use of time. It is SAD and UNFORTUNATE.


Where is the proof that anybody spends hours looking for ONE poll?

This shows a detachment from reality and how social media works today.

I don't think you guys spend hours looking for that one poll. I think your heavily biased social-media algorithm feeds it to you.
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sycasey said:

movielover said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:


These guys are very good at finding the one poll that looks good for Trump.


That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll.





The TRUTH is most folks can do a task in fifteen minutes that appears to take you hours. It is UNFORTUNATE that you don't realize it. Clearly your assumption that other people are as SLOW as you are is affecting your view on others' use of time. It is SAD and UNFORTUNATE.


Where is the proof that anybody spends hours looking for ONE poll?

This shows a detachment from reality and how social media works today.

I don't think you guys spend hours looking for that one poll. I think your heavily biased social-media algorithm feeds it to you.


Bingo.
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movielover
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DiabloWags said: "That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

"No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll."
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movielover said:

DiabloWags said: "That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

"No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll."

Bingo.
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movielover said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:


These guys are very good at finding the one poll that looks good for Trump.


That's how you know they're not Cal grads.

No degreed professional from Cal that is currently employed would spend all that time on the internet trying to come across that ONE poll.





The TRUTH is most folks can do a task in fifteen minutes that appears to take you hours. It is UNFORTUNATE that you don't realize it. Clearly your assumption that other people are as SLOW as you are is affecting your view on others' use of time. It is SAD and UNFORTUNATE.


Where is the proof that anybody spends hours looking for ONE poll?

This shows a detachment from reality and how social media works today.

The proof is in the pudding. Look in the pudding.
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DiabloWags
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Everyone knows that CO2 is a natural component of Earth's atmosphere.

But Climate DENIARS ignore the fact that CO2 traps heat in the atmosphere, contributing to global warming.

Thanks.

Debunking Climate Myths: Why CO2 Drives Warming, Not Just Atmospheric Pressure - Climate Fact Checks

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DiabloWags said:

Everyone knows that CO2 is a natural component of Earth's atmosphere.

But Climate DENIARS ignore the fact that CO2 traps heat in the atmosphere, contributing to global warming.

Thanks.

Debunking Climate Myths: Why CO2 Drives Warming, Not Just Atmospheric Pressure - Climate Fact Checks




There are many aspects to this that aren't covered in your link, like:

-preindustrual CO2 levels of 280ppm were among the lowest registered in the entire history of the planet, which is registered in billions of years, not hundreds of thousands.



At those historically low levels of CO2 below 400ppm, photosynthesis is a lot lower, especially in arid lands. A drop below 200ppm would have meant catastrophic collapse of agriculture and mass starvation on earth.




Current levels of CO2 at around 420ppm mean earth greening and bumper crops of cereals worldwide. We have already hit peak agricultural land as agricultural yields worldwide have surged due to CO2 fertilization.

-The rate of heating due to the CO2 greenhouse effect is not linearly proportional to CO2 concentration, it is logarithmically related. The amount of heat from an increase from 200ppm to 400ppm is the same as an increase from 400ppm to 800pm.



It's like how if you paint a black surface white, the first coat of paint has a huge effect, while subsequent coats have gradually smaller effects on the surface getting whiter.
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TRUMP TALKING ABOUT HIS PRESS SECRETARY

SWEEEEEET KAROLINE!!!

CREEPY AS FU**

"When she gets up there with that beautiful face and those lips that don't stop that pop up like a little machine gun"




https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/the-romance-rumor-karoline-leavitt-can-t-shake/vi-AA1W3WYi?ocid=socialshare
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Pre Covid, a greening Earth had wiped out global starvation. (Dr. Jordan Peterson)

But Socialists want to moralize.
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CO2 review - lots of holes

Amuse: Trump's Repeal of Obama's CO Finding Was the Right Call

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Trump is wrong on not going all out on solar, especially in the west and southwest. I think he will eventually reverse that policy once it becomes clear that there is going to be a severe energy shortage with skyrocketing AI demand.
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Cal88 said:

Trump is wrong on not going all out on solar, especially in the west and southwest. I think he will eventually reverse that policy once it becomes clear that there is going to be a severe energy shortage with skyrocketing AI demand.


On warehouses, industrial buildings, and parking lots.
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Trump just LIED AGAIN.

This time about claiming that renaming PENN STATION to TRUMP STATION was Chuck Schumer's idea.
Karolilne Leavitt confirms that it was Trump's idea.

All he does is LIE.

Karoline Leavitt confirms president told brazen lie about Trump Station name change
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DiabloWags said:

All he does is LIE.

agree. most obvious tell when voicing a whooper: his lips move.
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Are Democrats underreporting violent crime numbers or is this the Trump effect?
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Donald drains the swamp.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Are Democrats underreporting violent crime numbers or is this the Trump effect?

Democrat mayors doing a great job, obviously.
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