Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?

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going4roses
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I wonder ...


He beat a white woman and they thought for one second a poc woman was gonna win ? How sway how ?
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Election 2024: How and why young Black and Latino men chose Trump | AP News
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Per CNN and AP exit polling Harris only got 1/2 the advantage of Biden with under 30 women. Only 13% of those women said abortion was their #1 issue. 40% said economy and 11% said immigration. If those numbers are correct it's a big hole in the race / misogyny explanation for Harris losing.
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tequila4kapp said:

Per CNN and AP exit polling Harris only got 1/2 the advantage of Biden with under 30 women. Only 13% of those women said abortion was their #1 issue. 40% said economy and 11% said immigration. If those numbers are correct it's a big hole in the race / misogyny explanation for Harris losing.
I think the folks who continue to cling to this explanation are not living in reality. There's clearly a lot more to Trump's appeal beyond that.

Unclear how much it applies to the rest of the GOP though.
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DiabloWags said:

Election 2024: How and why young Black and Latino men chose Trump | AP News


https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/124098

The best breakdown I have seen or heard yet
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Big drop off in turn out for the Dems across demographics. In the end this election was no big deal

From NYT

Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation's most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.

The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.
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Not enough fake votes to elect another Democrat.
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going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.
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I think Oprah deserved at least $5 million for her endorsement activities.
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bear2034 said:


I think Oprah deserved at least $5 million for her endorsement activities.

She's already a billionaire, for her and the other ones on that list mooching off small Democrat donors like SBGold is totally unprincipled.
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I read the artists waived their fees but the campaign still incurred millions in expenses related to operating the events.
going4roses
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concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Say what ? Excuse me come again ? I know you didn't type this nor could you believe this for one moment. Please tell me you're joking please !!!
First Let me tell you something POC and Black people (descendants of Freedmen) are not the same thing.
Just because you see melanated skin that means absolutely nothing.
NOT ONE BLACK PERSON WAS EVER OPINING FOR HER. In my circle of California Black people we have never been cool with her cosplaying Black Folks her experience is nothing like ours. The same person in 95 saying " why would I do something specifically for Black people" of course she wouldn't she isnt Black. Don't count talking heads and celebrities they don't count because they have fully capitulated via meritorious manumission just like Black republicans. They do what master tells them.

Biden (donald Byrd's boy) has never been ok tolerated yes but like i said many times most white people over a certain age they part if the problem. For example Jerry jones as youth present and active at anti black people events.
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going4roses
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concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Show me one single post of me supporting her ever !!!!
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going4roses said:

concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Say what ? Excuse me come again ? I know you didn't type this nor could you believe this for one moment. Please tell me you're joking please !!!
First Let me tell you something POC and Black people (descendants of Freedmen) are not the same thing.
Just because you see melanated skin that means absolutely nothing.
NOT ONE BLACK PERSON WAS EVER OPINING FOR HER. In my circle of California Black people we have never been cool with her cosplaying Black Folks her experience is nothing like ours. The same person in 95 saying " why would I do something specifically for Black people" of course she wouldn't she isnt Black. Don't count talking heads and celebrities they don't count because they have fully capitulated via meritorious manumission just like Black republicans. They do what master tells them.

Biden (donald Byrd's boy) has never been ok tolerated yes but like i said many times most white people over a certain age they part if the problem. For example Jerry jones as youth present and active at anti black people events.

Disagree and agree:

I don't know how many Black people were insisting that "it must be Kamala now", but I know at least one was: Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post and PBS News Hour. Of course, he was spouting nothing but Democratic Party talking points all year.

Dems made a huge miscalculation thinking that "BIPOC" was largely some monolithic voting block. Just because you come up with a fancy acronym, it doesn't necessarily make it significant or meaningful. Not even the "POC" part.
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Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:


I think Oprah deserved at least $5 million for her endorsement activities.

She's already a billionaire, for her and the other ones on that list mooching off small Democrat donors like SBGold is totally unprincipled.


Note the word "allegedly" in the above referenced tweet. I seriously question the veracity of the assertion!!!

-misinformation police


Allegedly, you're a "dogface".

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tequila4kapp said:

I read the artists waived their fees but the campaign still incurred millions in expenses related to operating the events.


You mean, like ANY event that is run?
Like facility rental, transportation, staffing, security, insurance, etc etc etc

Thank you, tequila, for boldly sticking your neck out there and working to correct falsehoods. That was truly brave of you to question the alt-right, because they might take your name and disqualify you from tenure.

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going4roses said:

concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Show me one single post of me supporting her ever !!!!


I wasn't referring to you.
You said "Dems".

So, you voted for Trump?
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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:


I think Oprah deserved at least $5 million for her endorsement activities.

She's already a billionaire, for her and the other ones on that list mooching off small Democrat donors like SBGold is totally unprincipled.


Note the word "allegedly" in the above referenced tweet. I seriously question the veracity of the assertion!!!

-misinformation police


Allegedly, you're a "dogface".




https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/124077
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

I read the artists waived their fees but the campaign still incurred millions in expenses related to operating the events.


You mean, like ANY event that is run?
Like facility rental, transportation, staffing, security, insurance, etc etc etc

Thank you, tequila, for boldly sticking your neck out there and working to correct falsehoods. That was truly brave of you to question the alt-right, because they might take your name and disqualify you from tenure.


Tom, not exactly sure what's going on in your life that this post triggered you so much but I wish you well
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:


I think Oprah deserved at least $5 million for her endorsement activities.

She's already a billionaire, for her and the other ones on that list mooching off small Democrat donors like SBGold is totally unprincipled.


Note the word "allegedly" in the above referenced tweet. I seriously question the veracity of the assertion!!!

-misinformation police


Allegedly, you're a "dogface".




https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/124077


Sorry if you took honest offense to that. I thought I was being funny by bringing up one of Trump's lamentably laughable claims as to why voters shouldn't choose Carly Fiorina.

What ever happened to her, by the way. Her disappearing act is about on par with George Bush's.

That must be when people knows how much one cares about a cause!

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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

I read the artists waived their fees but the campaign still incurred millions in expenses related to operating the events.


You mean, like ANY event that is run?
Like facility rental, transportation, staffing, security, insurance, etc etc etc

Thank you, tequila, for boldly sticking your neck out there and working to correct falsehoods. That was truly brave of you to question the alt-right, because they might take your name and disqualify you from tenure.





Those are extremely high charges to run an event. Who is pocketing 90% of the money?
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tequila4kapp said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

I read the artists waived their fees but the campaign still incurred millions in expenses related to operating the events.


You mean, like ANY event that is run?
Like facility rental, transportation, staffing, security, insurance, etc etc etc

Thank you, tequila, for boldly sticking your neck out there and working to correct falsehoods. That was truly brave of you to question the alt-right, because they might take your name and disqualify you from tenure.


Tom, not exactly sure what's going on in your life that this post triggered you so much but I wish you well


I'm waking up enjoying BI, thanks!
Feeling good.
Going to stretch and get some breakfast in a bit. Then go work on installing solar panels at a neighbor's house.

I was triggered when tiki torches marched in Charlottesville.

I was triggered when I learned about Trump's massive financial docs fraud (having worked in the financial industry).

I was triggered when I heard trump talk about grabbing women wherever he wants (as father to 5 daughters)

I was triggered by his endless adulterous stories, as a man who's led his life do differently in this area.

I was triggered when he led a coup d'etat attempt on the building where I used to work.

I was triggered when he slurred the Spanish speaking world, as one who speaks Spanish.

Trump has triggered me a thousand times, though not as many times as he's lied on camera.

Am I triggered that 51% of the nation and 100% of congressional and Scotus republicans have given him the whip?
No, I just give up.

America is no special place.
We have no special character.
We are just as pretty as Germany in 1933.

It actually resolves some inner conflict, some incongruent wonderings about how Auschwitz could have happened. It all fits, now, though. We humans are as we are. I get it.

Have a good day.
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going4roses said:

concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Say what ? Excuse me come again ? I know you didn't type this nor could you believe this for one moment. Please tell me you're joking please !!!
First Let me tell you something POC and Black people (descendants of Freedmen) are not the same thing.
Just because you see melanated skin that means absolutely nothing.
NOT ONE BLACK PERSON WAS EVER OPINING FOR HER. In my circle of California Black people we have never been cool with her cosplaying Black Folks her experience is nothing like ours. The same person in 95 saying " why would I do something specifically for Black people" of course she wouldn't she isnt Black. Don't count talking heads and celebrities they don't count because they have fully capitulated via meritorious manumission just like Black republicans. They do what master tells them.

Biden (donald Byrd's boy) has never been ok tolerated yes but like i said many times most white people over a certain age they part if the problem. For example Jerry jones as youth present and active at anti black people events.



Was Obama black?
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going4roses said:

concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Say what ? Excuse me come again ? I know you didn't type this nor could you believe this for one moment. Please tell me you're joking please !!!
First Let me tell you something POC and Black people (descendants of Freedmen) are not the same thing.
Just because you see melanated skin that means absolutely nothing.
NOT ONE BLACK PERSON WAS EVER OPINING FOR HER. In my circle of California Black people we have never been cool with her cosplaying Black Folks her experience is nothing like ours. The same person in 95 saying " why would I do something specifically for Black people" of course she wouldn't she isnt Black. Don't count talking heads and celebrities they don't count because they have fully capitulated via meritorious manumission just like Black republicans. They do what master tells them.

Biden (donald Byrd's boy) has never been ok tolerated yes but like i said many times most white people over a certain age they part if the problem. For example Jerry jones as youth present and active at anti black people events.


I saw one clip where Kamala talked about being a proud Indian 5 or 6 times.

It was Harmeet Dhillon who made the general public aware of Kamala being from the ruling Brahmin caste.

Ironic inside baseball. I was at a trade show with an Indian colleague, and several times he told me the caste system was dead, didn't exist, etc. Last day we stop for a quick bite while in Washington DC, and pass by a homeless person, and this educated man says, "We have a beggar class in India. That is their lot in life."

I replied, "I thought India didn't have a caste system!!"

Apparently Black FreedMEN were more apt to vote for President Trump. I saw 25% voted for him. He's had relationships in the Black community for decades.
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movielover said:

going4roses said:

concordtom said:

going4roses said:

Did the DNC even really try to win at all ?


Do you remember when Biden stepped down and all of a sudden a huge raft of black people were on the scene saying "if they don't give it to Kamala then we're going to sit this one out!"

Stupidest ****ing strategy decision EVER!

It's like doubling down when you're holding an 8 and a 7 and your opponent is showing a face card.


Say what ? Excuse me come again ? I know you didn't type this nor could you believe this for one moment. Please tell me you're joking please !!!
First Let me tell you something POC and Black people (descendants of Freedmen) are not the same thing.
Just because you see melanated skin that means absolutely nothing.
NOT ONE BLACK PERSON WAS EVER OPINING FOR HER. In my circle of California Black people we have never been cool with her cosplaying Black Folks her experience is nothing like ours. The same person in 95 saying " why would I do something specifically for Black people" of course she wouldn't she isnt Black. Don't count talking heads and celebrities they don't count because they have fully capitulated via meritorious manumission just like Black republicans. They do what master tells them.

Biden (donald Byrd's boy) has never been ok tolerated yes but like i said many times most white people over a certain age they part if the problem. For example Jerry jones as youth present and active at anti black people events.


I saw one clip where Kamala talked about being a proud Indian 5 or 6 times.

It was Harmeet Dhillon who made the general public aware of Kamala being from the ruling Brahmin caste.

Ironic inside baseball. I was at a trade show with an Indian colleague, and several times he told me the caste system was dead, didn't exist, etc. Last day we stop for a quick bite while in Washington DC, and pass by a homeless person, and this educated man says, "We have a beggar class in India. That is their lot in life."

I replied, "I thought India didn't have a caste system!!"

Apparently Black FreedMEN were more apt to vote for President Trump. I saw 25% voted for him. He's had relationships in the Black community for decades.
any Indian who says there is no caste system in India is a bleeping idiot. Would love to tell that to your colleague
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Edited By Staff said:



The Kamala campaign spent hundreds of millions in the last 30 days of the campaign and some unnamed people got very rich in addition to these celebrities who wouldn't have publicly supported her unless they were paid.
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bear2034 said:

Edited By Staff said:



The Kamala campaign spent hundreds of millions in the last 30 days of the campaign and some unnamed people got very rich in addition to these celebrities who wouldn't have publicly supported her unless they were paid.

In those moments when I am able to compartmentalize both my TDS and my love-for-country, I am often able to appreciate the absurdity as well as the hilarity.
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I read they spent over a billion smackers. That's where the businessman excells. What was hours with Elon, Rogan, Theo Vaughn worth? What was the mgmt / consultant take on all those DNC ad buys, 10%, 20%?

The septegenarian businessman weaved around the fossilized MSM Progs.
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movielover said:

I read they spent over a billion smackers. That's where the businessman excells. What was hours with Elon, Rogan, Theo Vaughn worth? What was the mgmt / consultant take on all those DNC ad buys, 10%, 20%?

The septegenarian businessman weaved around the fossilized MSM Progs.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/police-misconduct-repeated-settlements/#
America wastes billions all the time
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going4roses said:

movielover said:

I read they spent over a billion smackers. That's where the businessman excells. What was hours with Elon, Rogan, Theo Vaughn worth? What was the mgmt / consultant take on all those DNC ad buys, 10%, 20%?

The septegenarian businessman weaved around the fossilized MSM Progs.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/police-misconduct-repeated-settlements/#
America wastes billions all the time



Wrong thread.
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Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Edited By Staff said:



The Kamala campaign spent hundreds of millions in the last 30 days of the campaign and some unnamed people got very rich in addition to these celebrities who wouldn't have publicly supported her unless they were paid.

In those moments when I am able to compartmentalize both my TDS and my love-for-country, I am often able to appreciate the absurdity as well as the hilarity.

As if what he said is even true.
He's a spout of assertion and misinformation. It's why he's on Ignore. As if these celebrities need to be paid.
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going4roses said:

movielover said:

I read they spent over a billion smackers. That's where the businessman excells. What was hours with Elon, Rogan, Theo Vaughn worth? What was the mgmt / consultant take on all those DNC ad buys, 10%, 20%?

The septegenarian businessman weaved around the fossilized MSM Progs.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/police-misconduct-repeated-settlements/#
America wastes billions all the time



How many billions did Kushner get in order to broker the arms deal with Saudi Arabia?

Bearister with the godfather wet beak meme … spot on.

We can expect that in spades in Trump 2.0

He doesn't care about policy.
He wants to be paid.
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How much did Dems grift off Biden / Harris? 20%?

Plus Ukraine MICC graft.

And four Green New Scams.
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movielover said:

How much did Dems grift off Biden / Harris? 20%?

Plus Ukraine MICC graft.

And four Green New Scams.


Please do an analysis of EV's being produced in China and then tell me how it's a scam. You can utilize Ford CEO interviews and quotes to help you formulate your opinion.

I recommend also examining Heat Pump technology, the cost performance of Solar + Battery Storage (such as PG&E's Moss Landing facility) vs coal or NG peaker plants.
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Where is heat pump technology currently producing electricity at large scale?
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