Matt Gaetz selected as Attorney General

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DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

Gaetz is out.

So much wasted energy here defending what was clearly a terrible pick by Trump.
Yup.
All by the usual brain-dead suspects.

In other news, Trump's latest AG appointment Bondi has yellow hair. Not blonde. Yellow.

Never seen that before.


Have you seen any of the news networks report about Biden's connection to Ukraine?
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philly1121 said:

Aww Hawaii - what happened to Matty Gaetz?? Dang there must have been something to those cringey revelations about his proclivities. Remember that ol Rick James song? she was only 17

I guess she really was. Lmao


I know little about Gaetz. I assume the left will politically prosecute anybody the don't like with fake accusations because they have done it often.

I spoke to a real life friend who is a lawyer and pretty centric and he believes Gaetz was not really investigated just because they don't prosecute their own. That made me think. Bear goggles does not like Gaetz one bit and I feel smarter when I read his posts. Now with Gaetz stepping aside it sure looks like there is truth to the accusations.

If they are real he should face charges. Everyone should have the laws applied to them equally. No 2 tier BS. No protecting your own. No 18 million hush money payments of taxpayer money for sexual misconduct.

Clean out ALL the perps on BOTH sides and if any independents or other parties are there clean those perps out too. Due process for all.


philly1121
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34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
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philly1121 said:

34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
"no wrongdoing" by whom? Be specific. I'll wait.
Cal88
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Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.
concordtom
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This is a 30 second joke, for your amusement.




concordtom
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Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.
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Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


The flex here is a solid one.

"Hi, I'm a 35 year old US Congressman. Before we have sex, I'd like to see your identification that proves that you, a high schooler, are at least 18 years old as it may be debatable based on your appearance. Ah, it says you're 18! Fantastic. Let's f*ck!"

Sometimes it's ok to sit out for a play or two on this board.
bearister
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My theory is that Matt Gaetz is either an AI creation or a human form of an extraterrestrial. He gives me a severe case of the Heebie-jeebies.


Nope, not photoshopped.
https://www.esquire.com/style/grooming/a61638847/matt-gaetz-face-rnc-botox/

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concordtom
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And now he's already apparently launched a Cameo account to give personal greetings for $.

I missed that job listing at the high school career day faire. I shoulda gone for that.

I wonder if we can offer to pay him $50 and read the message that says, "Hi neighbor, this is Matt Gaetz. I like sex with young women who are Just legal enough to provide me with both a boner and plausible deniability."
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bearister said:






That's so fake!
That would never happen!

How come the creature turned into something 10x its original size? What, was it made out of expanding foam?
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Like religious beliefs and Bitcoin, alien DNA is a mystery…..and is it really DNA at all? Perhaps it's called FJVXMEW or merely a symbol or a sound that we either can't hear or recognize.



Larry: [to Jennings, while high] Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being. [Jennings nods] This is too much! That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be--
Jennings: Could be one little tiny universe.
Larry: Could I buy some pot from you?
Larry:I won't go schizo, will I?
Jennings:It's a distinct possibility.
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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.

As to Gaetz, it was apparently a honeypot operation, not just a casual encounter between a guy in his 30s and a woman whose official drivers licence said she was of college age.

I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine.



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"I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine."

Walk proudly, Sir.

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Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


Who would set him up? He doesn't have any political enemies.
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BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
"no wrongdoing" by whom? Be specific. I'll wait.
Goggles, do you really want to go there? OK! Let's do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

Conspiracy theories are your specialty goggles. You. 34, 88. I mean, are you that daft that you believe this stuff? You went to Cal. Why are you such an easy mark? Do you fall for everything the GRU spits out? You do know that Vladimir Alexysevin ran this disinformation through Ukrainian officials as well as media in the US to spread this crap. Its nonsense. You're so bad.
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.

As to Gaetz, it was apparently a honeypot operation, not just a casual encounter between a guy in his 30s and a woman whose official drivers licence said she was of college age.

I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine.






You just admitted to that!
Hahaha!!!

(I'll have to store that away.)

(It's okay if you call me a puritan. I'm proudly descended from William Brewster.)
concordtom
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bearister said:

"I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine."

Walk proudly, Sir.




Classic!
concordtom
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21 and 31.

I don't suppose you have any daughters?
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Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


The flex here is a solid one.

"Hi, I'm a 35 year old US Congressman. Before we have sex, I'd like to see your identification that proves that you, a high schooler, are at least 18 years old as it may be debatable based on your appearance. Ah, it says you're 18! Fantastic. Let's f*ck!"

Sometimes it's ok to sit out for a play or two on this board.


Have you seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Margaret Qualley is a smoke show.
Haloski
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
Haloski
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oski003 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


The flex here is a solid one.

"Hi, I'm a 35 year old US Congressman. Before we have sex, I'd like to see your identification that proves that you, a high schooler, are at least 18 years old as it may be debatable based on your appearance. Ah, it says you're 18! Fantastic. Let's f*ck!"

Sometimes it's ok to sit out for a play or two on this board.


Have you seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Margaret Qualley is a smoke show.


I haven't seen the film and I have no idea who she is.

What are you getting at?
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Haloski said:

oski003 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


The flex here is a solid one.

"Hi, I'm a 35 year old US Congressman. Before we have sex, I'd like to see your identification that proves that you, a high schooler, are at least 18 years old as it may be debatable based on your appearance. Ah, it says you're 18! Fantastic. Let's f*ck!"

Sometimes it's ok to sit out for a play or two on this board.


Have you seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Margaret Qualley is a smoke show.


I haven't seen the film and I have no idea who she is.

What are you getting at?


How old are you? Warning: some inappropriate language and themes.

sycasey
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Haloski said:

oski003 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.


The flex here is a solid one.

"Hi, I'm a 35 year old US Congressman. Before we have sex, I'd like to see your identification that proves that you, a high schooler, are at least 18 years old as it may be debatable based on your appearance. Ah, it says you're 18! Fantastic. Let's f*ck!"

Sometimes it's ok to sit out for a play or two on this board.


Have you seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Margaret Qualley is a smoke show.


I haven't seen the film and I have no idea who she is.

What are you getting at?
He's getting at the idea that barely-legal chicks are hot.
bearister
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Margaret Qualley's character P@ussycat" was loosely based on Manson Family member Ruth Ann Moorehouse:

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Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
He has to defend the hill. To not do so would be to accept that his opinion is wrong and that Gaetz' character is a little less than above board. And he won't even do that because, why? How can the Great Leader's opinion be wrong? So, 88's gonna defend his teen chearleader.com account. I mean, if you like em young 88, just say it. lol
Cal88
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philly1121 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
He has to defend the hill. To not do so would be to accept that his opinion is wrong and that Gaetz' character is a little less than above board. And he won't even do that because, why? How can the Great Leader's opinion be wrong? So, 88's gonna defend his teen chearleader.com account. I mean, if you like em young 88, just say it. lol


In retrospect, the old half your age plus seven rule works out pretty well as a lower boundary from your 30s on, if you can pull it off, that is.
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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.

As to Gaetz, it was apparently a honeypot operation, not just a casual encounter between a guy in his 30s and a woman whose official drivers licence said she was of college age.

I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine.





You just admitted to that!
Hahaha!!!

(I'll have to store that away.)

(It's okay if you call me a puritan. I'm proudly descended from William Brewster.)

Will would have called you out as a feminist.
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.

As to Gaetz, it was apparently a honeypot operation, not just a casual encounter between a guy in his 30s and a woman whose official drivers licence said she was of college age.

I dated a 23yo Cal undergrad when I was 34, and 21-22yo SF State student a couple of years earlier - perfectly fine.





You just admitted to that!
Hahaha!!!

(I'll have to store that away.)

(It's okay if you call me a puritan. I'm proudly descended from William Brewster.)

Will would have called you out as a poussyhat-wearing feminist.


Yep.
I knitted 3 of the pink ones in 2017. Ready to go!
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
He has to defend the hill. To not do so would be to accept that his opinion is wrong and that Gaetz' character is a little less than above board. And he won't even do that because, why? How can the Great Leader's opinion be wrong? So, 88's gonna defend his teen chearleader.com account. I mean, if you like em young 88, just say it. lol


In retrospect, the old half your age plus seven rule works out pretty well as a lower boundary from your 30s on, if you can pull it off, that is.

Just so you know, I think you're kinda sick now.
If you can pull it off? Wow, do you drive a Porsche? Or a beemer? Do you like to try and impress people with how you dress and how much money you have? Do you suffer from low self esteem?
Cal88
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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
He has to defend the hill. To not do so would be to accept that his opinion is wrong and that Gaetz' character is a little less than above board. And he won't even do that because, why? How can the Great Leader's opinion be wrong? So, 88's gonna defend his teen chearleader.com account. I mean, if you like em young 88, just say it. lol


In retrospect, the old half your age plus seven rule works out pretty well as a lower boundary from your 30s on, if you can pull it off, that is.

Just so you know, I think you're kinda sick now.
If you can pull it off? Wow, do you drive a Porsche? Or a beemer? Do you like to try and impress people with how you dress and how much money you have? Do you suffer from low self esteem? Is your pee pee small?

I bet you like fake tits, huh? They suit you.

It would have been a whole lot easier if I had your hat-knitting skills.
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philly1121 said:

BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
"no wrongdoing" by whom? Be specific. I'll wait.
Goggles, do you really want to go there? OK! Let's do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

Conspiracy theories are your specialty goggles. You. 34, 88. I mean, are you that daft that you believe this stuff? You went to Cal. Why are you such an easy mark? Do you fall for everything the GRU spits out? You do know that Vladimir Alexysevin ran this disinformation through Ukrainian officials as well as media in the US to spread this crap. Its nonsense. You're so bad.
Wow. The incorrect assumptions behind your response are quite revealing.

So now we've established your assertion is that in 2020 investigations found no clear evidence that JOE Biden (aka "the big guy") did anything wrong.

What about Hunter and the rest of the family? Did they do anything wrong? Did they profit by selling influence and access to Joe Biden? Was that known in 2020? Do you actually believe that Joe Biden had no idea his son and brother were doing these things? If he did know, didn't that make Joe morally (though perhaps not legally) culpable?

Also, I note that, as it turns out, we have some additional evidence since September 2020. I remember hearing something about a laptop that, despite being suppressed by the main stream media and social media, was ultimately proven to be authentic. For some reason (who could ever know why?) Biden's DOJ/FBI didn't actually admit that until 2024 which seems a bit odd.

And, in a final bit of irony, you accuse me of believing in conspiracy theories while alluding to conspiracy theories of GRU involvement, ignoring facts, like the existence of the laptop and the fact the Biden's family has mined tens of millions of dollars selling influence, and then insisting that there is no basis for thinking the Biden family is corrupt.
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

Looks like Gaetz was set up, the 17-year old girl had a real Florida-issued ID that showed that she was legal.

I have no idea about this story, so I'm not verifying or denying by responding. But, I don't know any mid 30's men having sex with "just legal" girls/women. And I don't want anybody who who live their personal life this way in Congress or in other positions of leadership. Plus, Gaetz is simply a Jerk!

Like Hegseth…. Not good.

Character matters.

"Inappropriate" showers with her father, quoting Ashley Biden's diary, never seemed to bother you.




Me? We've never discussed that. I'm not good with it.

Keep going, I guess. This ain't a good hill to die on.

Drive further down this road and you're CalEightyEpstein.
He has to defend the hill. To not do so would be to accept that his opinion is wrong and that Gaetz' character is a little less than above board. And he won't even do that because, why? How can the Great Leader's opinion be wrong? So, 88's gonna defend his teen chearleader.com account. I mean, if you like em young 88, just say it. lol


In retrospect, the old half your age plus seven rule works out pretty well as a lower boundary from your 30s on, if you can pull it off, that is.

Just so you know, I think you're kinda sick now.
If you can pull it off? Wow, do you drive a Porsche? Or a beemer? Do you like to try and impress people with how you dress and how much money you have? Do you suffer from low self esteem? Is your pee pee small?

I bet you like fake tits, huh? They suit you.

It would have been a whole lot easier if I had your hat-knitting skills.


Yeah, that's another thing daughters can teach you.
philly1121
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BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
"no wrongdoing" by whom? Be specific. I'll wait.
Goggles, do you really want to go there? OK! Let's do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

Conspiracy theories are your specialty goggles. You. 34, 88. I mean, are you that daft that you believe this stuff? You went to Cal. Why are you such an easy mark? Do you fall for everything the GRU spits out? You do know that Vladimir Alexysevin ran this disinformation through Ukrainian officials as well as media in the US to spread this crap. Its nonsense. You're so bad.
Wow. The incorrect assumptions behind your response are quite revealing.

So now we've established your assertion is that in 2020 investigations found no clear evidence that JOE Biden (aka "the big guy") did anything wrong.

What about Hunter and the rest of the family? Did they do anything wrong? Did they profit by selling influence and access to Joe Biden? Was that known in 2020? Do you actually believe that Joe Biden had no idea his son and brother were doing these things? If he did know, didn't that make Joe morally (though perhaps not legally) culpable?

Also, I note that, as it turns out, we have some additional evidence since September 2020. I remember hearing something about a laptop that, despite being suppressed by the main stream media and social media, was ultimately proven to be authentic. For some reason (who could ever know why?) Biden's DOJ/FBI didn't actually admit that until 2024 which seems a bit odd.

And, in a final bit of irony, you accuse me of believing in conspiracy theories while alluding to conspiracy theories of GRU involvement, ignoring facts, like the existence of the laptop and the fact the Biden's family has mined tens of millions of dollars selling influence, and then insisting that there is no basis for thinking the Biden family is corrupt.
This is why there is no talking to MAGA fools like yourself. You redirect. You obfuscate. You ignore. You ignore the fact that all of these issues were investigated by the House and Senate. This is what you do - you completely ignore what I wrote that there was no evidence of wrong doing, then you write, "well what about all the info since 2020. Whta about Hunter's laptop, what about all the tens of millions of dollars selling influence". But its that influence that Biden was accused of via his son, that is what we're talking about. But, nope. You ignore it.

Let's catch everyone up - a joint investigation by the House found no evidene of wrongdoing in 2020. And, for goggles, in Jaunary 2023 the House initiated what they called, the United States House Oversight Committee investigation into the Biden family. And what did they find? No evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. And Hunter? Well, Hunter offered to testify in front of the whole committee. something James Comer had wanted him to do, but when Hunter finally accepted, Comer moved the goalposts and said, no, you have to do it in private. What an embicile. Ultimately, no charges for Hunter Biden that he misused or misappropriated or received undo income from Burisma. So where are we at right now?

Well, despite a lack of evidence of any wrongdoing, mcCarthy moved it to an impeachment inquiry. And what was the result of that? Despite 300 pages of 'evidence", the 3 investigating committees found no impeachable offenses.

But let's be real here goggles. US Intel agencies have confirmed that the GRU Liutenant General Vladimir Alexseyevin and others coordinated these false allegations via Ukrainian lawmakers, specifically Konstantin Kilimnick. It was Kilimnick, who was working with the FSB, to influence American media into running with these allegations. And who were these American media? Led by Peter Schweizer and John Solomon, they orchestrated the media campaign in the US via Breitbart, Media Matters, OAN among others. This is all factual. It is not made up. It is straight from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Intelligence Council.

So I ask again, why are you so susceptible to Russian misinformation and disinformation? Do you actually like to see the erosion of confidence in demogratic principles simply because you want "the win"? Because its coming at the expense of our country. Figure it out.
BearGoggles
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philly1121 said:

BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

BearGoggles said:

philly1121 said:

34 you can't crawl out of the rabbit hole can you?

You do know that not one but two Senate committees investigated Biden's dealings in Ukraine and found no wrongdoing. A House investigation by Republicans also found no wrongdoing.

And of course Kevin McCarthy wanted impeachment and so did James Comer. What happened to those investigations? Surely the Republicans found something to move forward on impeachment of Joe. No? Yeah. Crickets.
"no wrongdoing" by whom? Be specific. I'll wait.
Goggles, do you really want to go there? OK! Let's do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

Conspiracy theories are your specialty goggles. You. 34, 88. I mean, are you that daft that you believe this stuff? You went to Cal. Why are you such an easy mark? Do you fall for everything the GRU spits out? You do know that Vladimir Alexysevin ran this disinformation through Ukrainian officials as well as media in the US to spread this crap. Its nonsense. You're so bad.
Wow. The incorrect assumptions behind your response are quite revealing.

So now we've established your assertion is that in 2020 investigations found no clear evidence that JOE Biden (aka "the big guy") did anything wrong.

What about Hunter and the rest of the family? Did they do anything wrong? Did they profit by selling influence and access to Joe Biden? Was that known in 2020? Do you actually believe that Joe Biden had no idea his son and brother were doing these things? If he did know, didn't that make Joe morally (though perhaps not legally) culpable?

Also, I note that, as it turns out, we have some additional evidence since September 2020. I remember hearing something about a laptop that, despite being suppressed by the main stream media and social media, was ultimately proven to be authentic. For some reason (who could ever know why?) Biden's DOJ/FBI didn't actually admit that until 2024 which seems a bit odd.

And, in a final bit of irony, you accuse me of believing in conspiracy theories while alluding to conspiracy theories of GRU involvement, ignoring facts, like the existence of the laptop and the fact the Biden's family has mined tens of millions of dollars selling influence, and then insisting that there is no basis for thinking the Biden family is corrupt.
This is why there is no talking to MAGA fools like yourself. You redirect. You obfuscate. You ignore. You ignore the fact that all of these issues were investigated by the House and Senate. This is what you do - you completely ignore what I wrote that there was no evidence of wrong doing, then you write, "well what about all the info since 2020. Whta about Hunter's laptop, what about all the tens of millions of dollars selling influence". But its that influence that Biden was accused of via his son, that is what we're talking about. But, nope. You ignore it.

Let's catch everyone up - a joint investigation by the House found no evidene of wrongdoing in 2020. And, for goggles, in Jaunary 2023 the House initiated what they called, the United States House Oversight Committee investigation into the Biden family. And what did they find? No evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. And Hunter? Well, Hunter offered to testify in front of the whole committee. something James Comer had wanted him to do, but when Hunter finally accepted, Comer moved the goalposts and said, no, you have to do it in private. What an embicile. Ultimately, no charges for Hunter Biden that he misused or misappropriated or received undo income from Burisma. So where are we at right now?

Well, despite a lack of evidence of any wrongdoing, mcCarthy moved it to an impeachment inquiry. And what was the result of that? Despite 300 pages of 'evidence", the 3 investigating committees found no impeachable offenses.

But let's be real here goggles. US Intel agencies have confirmed that the GRU Liutenant General Vladimir Alexseyevin and others coordinated these false allegations via Ukrainian lawmakers, specifically Konstantin Kilimnick. It was Kilimnick, who was working with the FSB, to influence American media into running with these allegations. And who were these American media? Led by Peter Schweizer and John Solomon, they orchestrated the media campaign in the US via Breitbart, Media Matters, OAN among others. This is all factual. It is not made up. It is straight from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Intelligence Council.

So I ask again, why are you so susceptible to Russian misinformation and disinformation? Do you actually like to see the erosion of confidence in demogratic principles simply because you want "the win"? Because its coming at the expense of our country. Figure it out.
That was a lot of words to deflect from my original point which is beyond dispute - the Biden family grifted tens of millions of dollars in influence peddling. The 2023 house committee confirmed that. And if you believe Joe Biden had no idea about the grifting, then you're just willfully blind and foolish. Among other things, Joe received payments from Hunter and various entities that have never been explained. Devon Archer testified as such and there is ample evidence on the laptop and the forms of payments to Joe.

You can read the report and evidence. At a minimum, Biden lied about his knowledge of his families involvement.

https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/

All of that doesn't mean Joe Biden committed a crime and, of course, he was not going to be charged by his own DOJ. It is far from the exoneration of moral (if not criminal) culpability. That is what I said previously and nothing you posted changes that.

If you think its ok for Biden's family to be grifting in Ukraine (Burisma) and other countries at the EXACT SAME TIME Joe was directing policy there, then you have no sense of what is a conflict of interest. It is gross.

In terms alleged conspiracy theories, the bolded paragraph sure seems like that. I note you have not provided a single link to evidence of what you've claimed.

But more importantly, even if what you claim is true, it doesn't change the fact that the Biden family absolutely grifted and that Joe had to have known about it. You seem to be more upset with the fact that that Russians/Ukrainians were allegedly disseminating allegations than the fact that many of those allegations were true. That is quite a position to hold.

You're the one susceptible to misinformation and disinformation. The American "Russia Russia Russia" left has you swinging at Russian windmills to distract you from what actually happened. By the way, those were the same people telling you Biden had no cognitive issues and Kamala was a strong candidate, and no doubt you believed that too.
 
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