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4:52p, 12/4/24


Clearly a targeted murder.
Probably a hired assassin
What motive do you think?
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4:59p, 12/4/24
Billionaires steal wealth by savage evil doing … the applause from society at large says a lot

Thoughts and Deductibles
"Tedious Repetition of routine actions are what make us great"
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5:26p, 12/4/24
trump's economy
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In reply to SBGold • 5:54p, 12/4/24
SBGold said:
trump's economy


Thanks for your opinion but I found the likely truth

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5:55p, 12/4/24
Pelosi seems to want to pass HC in the body count lead
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5:56p, 12/4/24
My money is on some random guy whose claim was denied.
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6:09p, 12/4/24
Former Tier 1 operator whose mother died of cancer because she got jerked around by United Healthcare's claims process.*





*That's my screenplay premise.

I have always felt these two local cases were pro hits by ex military. This BART killing is unsolved after almost 9 years. I figured possible cartel contract.

New details and boost in reward for 2016 West Oakland homicide | Bay Area Rapid Transit


https://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2019/news20190109

Same year as BART whacking, 2016. This one seemed pro as well. No idea of motive unless a bitter, wealthy company he took down contracted it:

Neighbors discuss SF attorney killed in El Cerrito shooting - ABC7 San Francisco


https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-attorney-idd-as-victim-in-el-cerrito-fatal-shooting/1580972/



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In reply to bearister • 8:29p, 12/4/24
The active duty Tier1 operator that I know has told me you are likely correct. Not about those specific cases, but the general idea that some of his retired coworkers have moved on to less than legitimate work. It's a skill set that has many uses in a wide variety of arenas.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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8:37p, 12/4/24
The French had guillotines.
Americans have guns.
Unfortunately, school shootings will still outnumber others.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 8:51p, 12/4/24
AunBear89 said:
The active duty Tier1 operator that I know has told me you are likely correct. Not about those specific cases, but the general idea that some of his retired coworkers have moved on to less than legitimate work. It's a skill set that has many uses in a wide variety of arenas.

…but this copper claims too sloppy to be a pro:

Former NYPD inspector describes 'unusual' gun used in murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO | Fox News Video


https://www.foxnews.com/video/6365561574112

*If they never catch the guy he was "pro" enough.


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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 9:47p, 12/4/24
HawaiiBear33 said:
Pelosi seems to want to pass HC in the body count lead
We all gotta go sometime. This dude's fall at least made the papers
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7:15a, 12/5/24
Brian Thompson marriage secret revealed after CEO killing in NYC



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7:23a, 12/5/24
Round up the usual ten million suspects
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7:25a, 12/5/24
All my sexy, movie hitman scenarios are crashing and burning. Non pro whacking. I just shredded my movie script:

https://abc7news.com/post/police-piece-together-shooting-suspects-escape-route-after-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-killed-outside-new-york-hilton/15623558/
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8:24a, 12/5/24
The shooter apparently hit the victim once in the back, once in the leg and also missed a shot. He was extremely close to the victim - 1st shot from maybe 10' and last shot from maybe less than 25'. This is very indicative of a novice. For perspective, at the range this week I was hitting 10/10 shots with pretty quick/rapid firing from 25 yards to an @20" target. I am only a moderately proficient shooter.

The shooter's gun jammed repeatedly. Again, evidence of a novice. It takes a decent amount of neglect for a standard semi-auto to jam. For perspective, I lazily didn't clean my firearm after the last several uses months ago. The firearms sat in my safe for months. I went to the range # times this week with my son (entering the armed services and practicing) and lazily didn't clean it after each use. Only at the 3rd session did the gun start to malfunction from being dirty. A professional would never neglect their weapon like this.

The weapon seems to have some sort of appendage added to it. It is really hard to tell from the video but that pistol is abnormally long. Long slide pistols do exist but ... it isn't standard. Why would a professional have / use that for a close range shot in an urban setting where he needs to be mobile? Makes no sense. So maybe a silencer has been added? Contrary to what the linked video above says, silencers are not illegal. They are hard to get and you have to go through a protracted approval / registration process, but they can be had. A professional hit man would not follow those rules. It is also the case that homemade silencers can be built. Maybe that's what this is?

The bullets reportedly had the words "delay", "deny", "depose" etched into the casings. Weird. Why would a professional do that? Let's call it another clue toward not a hitman.

The shooter knew how to clear a jam and did it multiple times quickly. When my firearm jammed my son - complete novice - had no clue what to do. I was able to clear the jams but it wasn't always easy like in the video. So we have evidence of a shooter with advanced gun familiarity.

My guess: a disgruntled consumer (etched words about insurance claims) who has an abnormal gun familiarity (cleared jams, possessed/built a sound suppressor) but who isn't a professional (potentially dirty gun, missed easy shots).
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12:19p, 12/5/24

Masks are a pain in the butt.
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In reply to bear2034 • 12:29p, 12/5/24
I'm a bit of a true crime junky. There is so much passive surveillance in the modern world it's really hard to get away with a murder.
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2:46p, 12/5/24
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.

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5:09p, 12/5/24
The disconnect between the mainstream media and social media on this is illuminating.

The main stream is covering this front page but why? Because he's rich, powerful and shot in the street and this is supposed to be shocking! People are shot on the streets every day.

Social media otoh largely views this as a righteous murder of a parasite. Fact is most people hate these companies and the murder of one of them with delay and deny written on the bullets is highly recognizable vigilante justice
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5:14p, 12/5/24
Sorry, not sorry.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 6:15p, 12/5/24
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Social media otoh largely views this as a righteous murder of a parasite. Fact is most people hate these companies and the murder of one of them with delay and deny written on the bullets is highly recognizable vigilante justice
I saw a retweet of a UHC post (?) announcing his murder. There were something like >5K reactions of laughter.

I'm really disgusted with humanity over these reactions.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:23p, 12/5/24
Cal88 said:
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.



NOW THAT IS F@UCKING FUNNY. IT MADE ME GIGGLE LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL.

*The shooter should plead not guilty and let a jury decide his fate. Mistrial. Everyone has been f'd by a healthcare insurer.
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In reply to bearister • 7:11p, 12/5/24
bearister said:
Cal88 said:
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.



NOW THAT IS F@UCKING FUNNY. IT MADE ME GIGGLE LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL.

*The shooter should plead not guilty and let a jury decide his fate. Mistrial. Everyone has been f'd by a healthcare insurer.

It might look funny to you, but think for a second here about the victim, getting gunned down like a dog on the street, and looking up at those cold blue eyes and maniacal smile as he takes his last breath.
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7:41p, 12/5/24
Is it true the board meeting continued as planned ?
"Tedious Repetition of routine actions are what make us great"
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In reply to going4roses • 8:00p, 12/5/24
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Is it true the board meeting continued as planned ?

Someone got two prime rib sandwiches. Too soon?
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:03p, 12/5/24
Cal88 said:
bearister said:
Cal88 said:
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.



NOW THAT IS F@UCKING FUNNY. IT MADE ME GIGGLE LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL.

*The shooter should plead not guilty and let a jury decide his fate. Mistrial. Everyone has been f'd by a healthcare insurer.

It might look funny to you, but think for a second here about the victim, getting gunned down like a dog on the street, and looking up at those cold blue eyes and maniacal smile as he takes his last breath.
At least I'll die with a hard on.
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In reply to going4roses • 8:10p, 12/5/24
going4roses said:
Is it true the board meeting continued as planned ?
Someone else could handle the PowerPoint deck.

What's the stock rated at? Buy, sell or hold?
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:41p, 12/5/24
Cal88 said:
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.


Killary, of course.
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In reply to Genocide Joe 47 • 9:04p, 12/5/24
Edited by Staff said:


Trump's America, killings on the streets going up.

VOTE BLUE
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:10p, 12/5/24
tequila4kapp said:
Anarchistbear said:
Social media otoh largely views this as a righteous murder of a parasite. Fact is most people hate these companies and the murder of one of them with delay and deny written on the bullets is highly recognizable vigilante justice
I saw a retweet of a UHC post (?) announcing his murder. There were something like >5K reactions of laughter.

I'm really disgusted with humanity over these reactions.


It's all understandable. Americans are pissed off at the political classes - Trump's win was essentially a vote for disruption. Americans care about health care - it's a major cost, worry and issue except with both parties who are committed to the current system. So when something like this happens there is little sympathy for the victim who is just an example of corporate greed not a human. Maybe more corporate heads need to die before there is reform- sometimes that's the way things work
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In reply to going4roses • 9:45p, 12/5/24
going4roses said:
Is it true the board meeting continued as planned ?
No. I read that they cancelled it.
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In reply to bear2034 • 11:15p, 12/5/24
bear2034 said:
Cal88 said:
They got a better closeup of the person of interest.


Killary, of course.

It was totally unrealistic for anybody to think she could stop with Vince Foster. The urge keeps coming back.
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11:19p, 12/5/24

I'm one of the last people you could call a conspiracy theorist. And yet, the thing with the three D-words being written on the shell casings... it just doesn't sound right. ("What an idea! This'll throw 'em off... ")
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 11:22p, 12/5/24
Trump's disruption politics, let the killings commence

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In reply to SBGold • 5:27a, 12/6/24
SBGold said:
Trump's disruption politics, let the killings commence

Do we also blame Canada here? Have they gotten away with murder??
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