Wrong.bearister said:
All insurance companies are driven by two engines:
1. Maximize and collect premiums;
2. Deny claims.
"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Using raw life expectancy as an indicator of the health system's effectiveness doesn't tell you much. You need to control for differential rates of homicide, addiction, obesity, diabetes and other factors that have nothing to do with the health care system. If you look at life expectancy at 65, when a lot of these factors aren't so relevant, the US is within a year (one way or another) of the European countries. In addition some European countries don't include still births in the stats.Cal88 said:HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
G4R is correct, the US healthcare system is broken, a consequence of complete regulatory capture by the healthcare industry, with health insurance companies at the forefront.
Life expectancy continues to decline in the U.S. as it rebounds in other countries
Life expectancy around the world decreased in 2020 due to COVID-19. Most peer countries rebounded by 2021, while the U.S. continued to decline.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819944/live-free-and-die-the-sad-state-of-u-s-life-expectancy
LudwigsFountain said:Using raw life expectancy as an indicator of the health system's effectiveness doesn't tell you much. You need to control for differential rates of homicide, addiction, obesity, diabetes and other factors that have nothing to do with the health care system. If you look at life expectancy at 65, when a lot of these factors aren't so relevant, the US is within a year (one way or another) of the European countries. In addition some European countries don't include still births in the stats.Cal88 said:HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
G4R is correct, the US healthcare system is broken, a consequence of complete regulatory capture by the healthcare industry, with health insurance companies at the forefront.
Life expectancy continues to decline in the U.S. as it rebounds in other countries
Life expectancy around the world decreased in 2020 due to COVID-19. Most peer countries rebounded by 2021, while the U.S. continued to decline.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819944/live-free-and-die-the-sad-state-of-u-s-life-expectancy
Here's an interesting fact. Life expectancy in Japan is 82. Life expectancy Japanese-Americans is 82.5.
The efficiency of the US health care system is a whole other matter.
I saw the 10 times quote, but it was comparing the cost in Europe with the cost to Medicare or private insurance here. The average monthly out-of-pocket cost, prior to the Inflation Reduction Act was $58. The Act reduced it to $35. Still higher than Europe (generally under $10) but not prohibitive for most. In ay event, I don't think the health care system is responsible for the incidence of diabetes here, which is two to three times higher than in Europe (excepting Spain for some reason).Cal88 said:LudwigsFountain said:Using raw life expectancy as an indicator of the health system's effectiveness doesn't tell you much. You need to control for differential rates of homicide, addiction, obesity, diabetes and other factors that have nothing to do with the health care system. If you look at life expectancy at 65, when a lot of these factors aren't so relevant, the US is within a year (one way or another) of the European countries. In addition some European countries don't include still births in the stats.Cal88 said:HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
G4R is correct, the US healthcare system is broken, a consequence of complete regulatory capture by the healthcare industry, with health insurance companies at the forefront.
Life expectancy continues to decline in the U.S. as it rebounds in other countries
Life expectancy around the world decreased in 2020 due to COVID-19. Most peer countries rebounded by 2021, while the U.S. continued to decline.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819944/live-free-and-die-the-sad-state-of-u-s-life-expectancy
Here's an interesting fact. Life expectancy in Japan is 82. Life expectancy Japanese-Americans is 82.5.
The efficiency of the US health care system is a whole other matter.
Obesity, diabetes have nothing to do with the healthcare system? Don't you think that for example the cost of insulin being more than 10x higher in the US than in France, UK or Germany will have an impact on the treatment and life expectancy of the 40 million Americans with diabetes?
The problem is more about the pharma lobby more than overall efficiency.
— Angelo Giuliano 🇨ðŸ‡ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡¹ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”»ðŸ”» 安德龙 (@angeloinchina) December 13, 2024
US Legislators (sponsored by lobbies) don't put pressure on prices and put pharma companies in a free lunch environment/monopolies. As opposed to Chinese government which negociate on every single… https://t.co/aC48nHe9cj pic.twitter.com/KIEErpboC2
This is the perfect symbol of the difference between the US and China:
— Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) December 5, 2023
China develops a breakthrough cancer drug that could save lives. The US approves it, but it will cost 30 TIMES MORE, with the US price skyrocketing from $280 to $8,892 https://t.co/YDUg4dQhbZ pic.twitter.com/ACZvHeB0o1
yep FL, it's reallly dangerous out there. so many many times this old fort remembers.. THANK OSKI FOR MEDICARE!Quote:
> So, I think it's nuanced. I think a lot of people are grappling with their feelings on this but aren't apologetic about how they feel.
There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
I'm not moving the goal posts. I'm applying your rationale to Covid, for which we insanely locked down society. Slowly but surely (although it's accelerating) people are coming around to that.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Good point. Just tired of dingbats criticizing the new coaching staff for not being experimental vaccine loving liberal robots and it spilled into another thread. Will edit.
going4roses said:oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Good point. Just tired of dingbats criticizing the new coaching staff for not being experimental vaccine loving liberal robots and it spilled into another thread. Will edit.
Hmm k I have stated a single word about the new coaches at all. I did ask if the new OC had developed/produced any NFL talent. That was its it. How did the coaches get infused into the conversation about the executive getting culled off ?
oski003 said:going4roses said:oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Good point. Just tired of dingbats criticizing the new coaching staff for not being experimental vaccine loving liberal robots and it spilled into another thread. Will edit.
Hmm k I have stated a single word about the new coaches at all. I did ask if the new OC had developed/produced any NFL talent. That was its it. How did the coaches get infused into the conversation about the executive getting culled off ?
Sober up and read my post again.
going4roses said:oski003 said:going4roses said:oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Good point. Just tired of dingbats criticizing the new coaching staff for not being experimental vaccine loving liberal robots and it spilled into another thread. Will edit.
Hmm k I have stated a single word about the new coaches at all. I did ask if the new OC had developed/produced any NFL talent. That was its it. How did the coaches get infused into the conversation about the executive getting culled off ?
Sober up and read my post again.
Sober up ? You are hella funny
oski003 said:going4roses said:oski003 said:going4roses said:oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Who claimed that Rolovich said people with Covid should be denied medical treatment? It's a big jump from not wanting to be immunized to that.oski003 said:SBGold said:ThisEastern Oregon Bear said:Well, if you're going to shift the goalposts to Covid, I'll point out that many other people that survived Covid, quite possibly Trump for one, wouldn't have done so if they had been denied medical treatment.TheFiatLux said:Just like most Covid deaths.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are probably more than 3500 deaths that had denied medical insurance coverage, but in all likelihood, the vast majority of them would have died anyway even if they had the denied medical procedures.HKBear97! said:"Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden."???IIII I honestly can't believe how supposedly intelligent people believe this stuff. Wow.going4roses said:
People have to understand that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an enemy combatant. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. You can be against killing enemies, which is a position that makes sense, especially if you are anti all the wars the US supports.
But if you didn't have a problem with the assassination of Bin Laden, you can't be surprised that I don't have a problem with the assassination of Thompson.
Thompson is responsible for more American deaths than Bin Laden. And Thompson wasn't conscripted to doing the work. He had job options. He volunteered to be a mercenary in order to get fabulously wealthy. He chose to make a career out of exploiting a ridiculous feature of American politics that allows him to profit from denying Americans healthcare claims.
He is an enemy, and some people, not me, but some people do believe in killing enemies. I just believe in calling enemies enemies, and he is an enemy.
If you think you are on the same side of as the person who profits from denying your health insurance claim, we are going to disagree about how a lot of this works.
Speaking of moving the goalposts, please find a quote from ANYWHERE where Coach Rolo says that people with covid should be denied medical treatment.
Good point. Just tired of dingbats criticizing the new coaching staff for not being experimental vaccine loving liberal robots and it spilled into another thread. Will edit.
Hmm k I have stated a single word about the new coaches at all. I did ask if the new OC had developed/produced any NFL talent. That was its it. How did the coaches get infused into the conversation about the executive getting culled off ?
Sober up and read my post again.
Sober up ? You are hella funny
The answer to your question,"How did the coaches get infused into the conversation about the executive getting culled off ?," was stated clearly in the post you were replying to. For the second time, please sober up and read the post you were replying to.
Price gouging and death in one chart about profits. pic.twitter.com/iMbuG0Sn2v
— Melanie D'Arrigo (@DarrigoMelanie) December 16, 2024
Totally criminial. Since the year Reagan allowed For Profit Health Care Insurance companies our health has been getting worse relative to the rest of the world.
— mritter (@mritter) December 17, 2024
Disgusting. pic.twitter.com/8T0gT5whci
going4roses said:
Hmm he does have a point will we get gun reform now ???
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDz7UF8PVTD/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
agreed,, cutting to the chase "it is hopeless"Quote:
> ..it is hopeless.
tequila4kapp said:going4roses said:
Hmm he does have a point will we get gun reform now ???
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDz7UF8PVTD/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
These things are cute. But here's the reality - short of a total ban, which cannot happen because of the 2nd Am, no amount of gun laws will prevent bad people from killing people with guns. That isn't to say all gun laws should go away or anything but there's a foundational issue of mental health and our culture that needs to be fixed. As is evidenced by this thread, people think it's acceptable to solve their problems with a gun. Until that changes it is hopeless.
