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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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It all runs into the same problem. Most Americans don't want universal healthcare. Most Americans don't want higher minimum wages. Most Californians don't want more housing. Most Californians don't want public transit.

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Sure, hence the attempt to start a political ideology that argues for a different way.

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sycasey said:

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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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It all runs into the same problem. Most Americans don't want universal healthcare. Most Americans don't want higher minimum wages. Most Californians don't want more housing. Most Californians don't want public transit.

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Show me the poll that says mist California's don't want more housing. Many (not most) homeowners don't but I also want assets I own to be artificially restricted so I can earn a windfall just hy being a nimby

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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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It all runs into the same problem. Most Americans don't want universal healthcare. Most Americans don't want higher minimum wages. Most Californians don't want more housing. Most Californians don't want public transit.

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Show me the poll that says mist California's don't want more housing. Many (not most) homeowners don't but I also want assets I own to be artificially restricted so I can earn a windfall just hy being a nimby

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Density raises property values. To the extent homeowners are making a rational decision it is a lifestyle decision and not a net worth decision.

I would rephrase my comment to most Californians don't want more houses in their communities. I'm sure the abstract polls better than the specific.

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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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It all runs into the same problem. Most Americans don't want universal healthcare. Most Americans don't want higher minimum wages. Most Californians don't want more housing. Most Californians don't want public transit.

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Show me the poll that says mist California's don't want more housing. Many (not most) homeowners don't but I also want assets I own to be artificially restricted so I can earn a windfall just hy being a nimby

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Yeah, I think it's complicated in that MOST people probably would want more housing but in an individual locale you will have a loud enough group of homeowners (mostly wealthy ones) who can rabble-rouse and gin up enough opposition to stop it (or delay to the point that building is no longer cost-effective).

I want to thank President Trump for my easy air travel today. I fly a few times a year for work and today is one of those days. Newark Airport is usually notoriously overrun but today the parking lot is half empty, the security line is almost non-existent, and the place is calm and spacious. I guess people are traveling less than they used to. Thank you President Trump.

Looks like Newark Airport (a hub for United Airlines) will become even more empty thanks to President Trump. After a week of FAA failures, United has announced it is cancelling 35 daily round trips. The culprit is FAA technology failures and a shortage of air traffic controllers. I got lucky this week but I have many colleagues who experienced flight cancelations.

Thank you President Trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-02/united-to-cut-newark-operations-as-faa-issues-snarl-flights?srnd=homepage-americas

🇫🇷 Le Pen banned from election
🇧🇷 Bolsonaro banned from election
🇷🇴 Georgescu election win cancelled
🇩🇪 AFD designated as extremist group

All in the name of protecting democracy

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) May 2, 2025

Germany just gave its spy agency new powers to surveil the opposition. That’s not democracy—it’s tyranny in disguise.

What is truly extremist is not the popular AfD—which took second in the recent election—but rather the establishment’s deadly open border immigration policies…

— Secretary Marco Rubio (@SecRubio) May 2, 2025

Did Germany not learn its lessons from recent history?

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Looks like Newark Airport (a hub for United Airlines) will become even more empty thanks to President Trump. After a week of FAA failures, United has announced it is cancelling 35 daily round trips. The culprit is FAA technology failures and a shortage of air traffic controllers. I got lucky this week but I have many colleagues who experienced flight cancelations.

Thank you President Trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-02/united-to-cut-newark-operations-as-faa-issues-snarl-flights?srnd=homepage-americas

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I had a coworker that had a flight from New Orleans to Seattle cancelled Tuesday afternoon. He had to use an extra day of vacation because he couldn't arrive until Wednesday afternoon, too late to go to work. I'm not sure what airline he was using.

People who don't understand economics and people who just want to amplify Putin's message of U.S. weakness frequently talk about the use of the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency and it's impending end as a sign of upcoming U.S. disaster. To the contrary, if the use of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency ended (we are far, far away from that occurrence) it would result in a huge transition for all trade partners. As usual in economics, there would be winners and losers both inside and outside the U.S.

Here is an article from Bloomberg (sorry about the paywall) that talks about the rise of Taiwan's currency relative to the dollar (weaker dollar) which states "Local (Taiwanese) exporters are panicking". Taiwanese exporters would be a major loser from a weaker U.S. dollar. For the U.S. and it's trade partners, there is no leaving the current trade / currency regime without inflicting major pain on powerful members of all countries involved. There is a smart, strategic approach to trade that could improve things. Trump's approach is broad, unstrategic, and dumb - and Taiwan is starting to feel the pain. Others will as well. We will see how supply chains change and the impact those changes will have on consumers (a strong party in the U.S.).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-05/taiwan-dollar-surges-another-4-jumping-most-since-1988?srnd=homepage-americas

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Looks like Newark Airport (a hub for United Airlines) will become even more empty thanks to President Trump. After a week of FAA failures, United has announced it is cancelling 35 daily round trips. The culprit is FAA technology failures and a shortage of air traffic controllers. I got lucky this week but I have many colleagues who experienced flight cancelations.

Thank you President Trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-02/united-to-cut-newark-operations-as-faa-issues-snarl-flights?srnd=homepage-americas

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I flew out of Newark Airport the day after an unannounced 90 second radar failure that left controllers blind. Through the week there were cancellations and flight issues at Newark Airport. Travelers like me were lied to and told the issues were caused by runway construction (the airline told us this at the other airport and I read it in the news).

This administration is going to get people killed

The way you know there is no meaningful liberal media is that this will all be forgotten in days. If a Democrat were President there would be daily articles, hearings and investigations until the blame was put on the President. That is how the media regularly manufactures Democratic unpopularity and maintains Republican popularity.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-05/newark-radar-loss-left-controllers-guiding-blind-for-90-seconds?srnd=homepage-americas

Oil producers are getting their faces eaten off. They have been fervent supporters of Trump for a decade now but the oil producers that benefit from Trump are Saudi, not American.

Saudia Arabia supports the transition of America to authoritarianism. So, they reduce oil output to raise prices when Democrats are President and increase output to lower prices when Trump is President. Saudi Arabia produces cheaper oil than the U.S. so they can sell more oil at lower cost.

With Saudi Arabia turning on the spigot for Trump, it is the American oil industry that is suffering. They hated President Biden but achieved record output and profit under President Biden.

Here is Diamondback Energy announcing "It is likely that onshore US oil production has peaked and will begin to decline this quarter"

Frac crews are down 15% and will decline farther. US rig counts should be down by over 10% by the 3rd quarter. Diamondback is cutting capex 10% and will return more cash to shareholders.

https://www.diamondbackenergy.com/news-releases/news-release-details/letter-stockholders-issued-diamondback-energy-inc-7

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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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Here’s a prediction: the membership in the Abundance Caucus will heavily overlap with the New Democrats which are a legacy of the DLC which was the original deregulatory, neoliberal faction that tried to co-opt Reaganomics the last time Democrats were in defeat.

If my… https://t.co/b53XE0EWJ7

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) May 8, 2025

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I notice that most of the lefty criticism of Abundance seems to be along the lines of "the wrong people like this," and not so much about the ideas themselves. To me that is telling.

This country adding to it's long historical list of shameful government sanctioned bigotry in action. Kicking out transgender people, who want to serve our country, from the military. The government branches who we were taught in school are there to protect the minority, proving once again the only minority they exist to protect are the rich and powerful.

Bigots and fascists having a whopping good time. History will not look kindly.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-military-start-kicking-out-transgender-troops-next-month-memo-says-2025-05-08/

Magat shoe business owner loses his business because of tariffs. Generally I support people getting what they voted for so this is a happy story.

https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3loqnpd7pfc24

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Pope Donald the 1st said:

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sycasey said:

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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding of "Abundance" in thinking that it's asking for the exclusion of things like higher wages, universal health care, etc. No! Those authors want that too!

They just also think that it should be easy to build housing, transit, renewable energy, etc., in places that need it, without running into so many procedural roadblocks as you do now. They don't think the one should preclude the other. Neither do I.

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Here’s a prediction: the membership in the Abundance Caucus will heavily overlap with the New Democrats which are a legacy of the DLC which was the original deregulatory, neoliberal faction that tried to co-opt Reaganomics the last time Democrats were in defeat.

If my… https://t.co/b53XE0EWJ7

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) May 8, 2025

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I notice that most of the lefty criticism of Abundance seems to be along the lines of "the wrong people like this," and not so much about the ideas themselves. To me that is telling.

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What it says that Democrats are **** people who will do and say anything to protect their rich donors.

Write all the books you want, but most of the country regards the Democratic Party as akin to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf." They simply don't and won't ever believe you.

Piece here: https://t.co/48NSF2HQOH

— Aaron Regunberg (@AaronRegunberg) May 9, 2025

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Once again, your argument is just "the bad people like this therefore it's bad," and not "it's bad policy."

I don't care about who is in the cool kids' club. If you want to argue why the policy ideas are bad, please come back with that.

Trump's America

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People who don't understand economics and people who just want to amplify Putin's message of U.S. weakness frequently talk about the use of the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency and it's impending end as a sign of upcoming U.S. disaster. To the contrary, if the use of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency ended (we are far, far away from that occurrence) it would result in a huge transition for all trade partners. As usual in economics, there would be winners and losers both inside and outside the U.S.

Here is an article from Bloomberg (sorry about the paywall) that talks about the rise of Taiwan's currency relative to the dollar (weaker dollar) which states "Local (Taiwanese) exporters are panicking". Taiwanese exporters would be a major loser from a weaker U.S. dollar. For the U.S. and it's trade partners, there is no leaving the current trade / currency regime without inflicting major pain on powerful members of all countries involved. There is a smart, strategic approach to trade that could improve things. Trump's approach is broad, unstrategic, and dumb - and Taiwan is starting to feel the pain. Others will as well. We will see how supply chains change and the impact those changes will have on consumers (a strong party in the U.S.).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-05/taiwan-dollar-surges-another-4-jumping-most-since-1988?srnd=homepage-americas

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Trump has caved again and showing signs of duplicating the repeated weakness he showed in his first term, always talking a big game and then walking it back. Trump's import tax on American consumers purchasing from China has been cut from 145% to 30%. China's power over their exporters is stronger than Trump's power over American consumers so, predictably, Trump has had to back down to China after making a big peacock style show of being a tough guy. Rinse. Repeat.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-12/xi-defiance-pays-off-as-trump-meets-most-chinese-trade-demands

The magat brain

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lpbzaw2eus2w

It's amazing how easy it is to uncover their hypocrisy.

Another big day of losses for the Trump Administration which may be on course to be the least consequential Presidential term since the first Trump Administration, which was completely ineffective.

Today, a Republican House Committee voted against the Trump tax and deficit plan.

Also today, the Republican Supreme Court ruled against Trump's planned Venezuelan deportations to El Salvador.

Also today, Trump basically conceded that he can't get any trade deals (they originally promised 90 trade deals in 90 days) and so they are going to send tariff letters to other countries.

The U.S. has never experienced such losing.

American patriot, General Sherman had a better week then Trump and he's been dead for over 100 years

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Another big day of losses for the Trump Administration which may be on course to be the least consequential Presidential term since the first Trump Administration, which was completely ineffective.

Today, a Republican House Committee voted against the Trump tax and deficit plan.

Also today, the Republican Supreme Court ruled against Trump's planned Venezuelan deportations to El Salvador.

Also today, Trump basically conceded that he can't get any trade deals (they originally promised 90 trade deals in 90 days) and so they are going to send tariff letters to other countries.

The U.S. has never experienced such losing.

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This is hardly the least consequential term of an American President. Lay off the LSD.

Here is a quote from a BBC article critical of Trump:

'For the protectionist president, who promises always to put America First, has in recent days instead been busy bestriding the world stage.

He and his team have done business deals in the Gulf; lifted sanctions on Syria; negotiated the release of a US citizen held by Hamas; ended military strikes on Houthi fighters in Yemen; slashed American tariffs on China; ordered Ukraine to hold talks with Russia in Turkey; continued quiet negotiations with Iran over a nuclear deal; and even claimed responsibility for brokering a ceasefire between India and Pakistan...

The pace has been breathless, leaving allies and opponents alike struggling to catch up as the US diplomatic bandwagon hurtled from issue to issue.

"Just, wow!" remarked one London-based ambassador. "It is almost impossible to stay on top of everything that's going on."'

Just got back from spending a few days in downtown Philadelphia. Saw a concert, had some great meals, got free tickets to an expo at the convention center, lots of walking. Had my first legit Philly cheesesteak.
Downtown Philadelphia is a great, walkable, vibrant area.

Plus, the added bonus that since snowflake magats are terrified of people that don't look like them, you are unlikely to run into one there.

Excited to hear the no tax on tips bill passed the Senate. Since Trump was elected I decided to get with the program and focus more on what is good for me. If tips don't get taxed, I get to cut my tips from 20% to 15%. Let's go.

Magat farmer facing potential bankruptcy because he is stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about tariffs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-not-even-sure-legal-010000861.html

ICE out there locking up and trying to deport US citizens. The private companies holding people are making big profits in this fascist assault on American liberties.

ICE is unsalvageable. It needs to be repealed and replaced.

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/05/23/is-she-us-citizen-ice-detention-mother-raises-legal-questions/

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ICE out there locking up and trying to deport US citizens. The private companies holding people are making big profits in this fascist assault on American liberties.

ICE is unsalvageable. It needs to be repealed and replaced.

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/05/23/is-she-us-citizen-ice-detention-mother-raises-legal-questions/

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It's quite clear that ICE is using increasingly desperate tactics to meet an arbitrary deportation number set by the current administration. What this actually tells you is that there really aren't as many easily deportable criminals and bad guys as the MAGA right wanted to claim there were, so they have to go after people who have sympathetic cases or who actually can't be deported at all.

dajo9 said:

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Another big day of losses for the Trump Administration which may be on course to be the least consequential Presidential term since the first Trump Administration, which was completely ineffective.

Today, a Republican House Committee voted against the Trump tax and deficit plan.

Also today, the Republican Supreme Court ruled against Trump's planned Venezuelan deportations to El Salvador.

Also today, Trump basically conceded that he can't get any trade deals (they originally promised 90 trade deals in 90 days) and so they are going to send tariff letters to other countries.

The U.S. has never experienced such losing.

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Tracking the futility of Trump to leave any meaningful impact for the American people, DOGE is wrapping up and the trillions of savings promised by Trump is nowhere to be seen.

The DOGE legacy - no noticeable effect on the deficit and a less efficient government particularly at the IRS and FAA. What a complete failure.

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Magat farmer facing potential bankruptcy because he is stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about tariffs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-not-even-sure-legal-010000861.html

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Do you have a link that shows a Trump supporter facing bankruptcy because they believed Trump's lies about Tariffs? Otherwise, you are just making things up again.

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Magat farmer facing potential bankruptcy because he is stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about tariffs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-not-even-sure-legal-010000861.html

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Do you have a link that shows a Trump supporter facing bankruptcy because they believed Trump's lies about Tariffs? Otherwise, you are just making things up again.

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Did you actually read the article and the quotes from the farmer?

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Magat farmer facing potential bankruptcy because he is stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about tariffs.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-not-even-sure-legal-010000861.html

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Do you have a link that shows a Trump supporter facing bankruptcy because they believed Trump's lies about Tariffs? Otherwise, you are just making things up again.

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Did you actually read the article and the quotes from the farmer?

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Yes. Do you have a link?

Elon Musk in the oval office with a black eye and tripping balls

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lqg2liytps2x

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Elon Musk in the oval office with a black eye and tripping balls

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lqg2liytps2x

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Sheesh, you'd think he'd time his drug use so he wouldn't be out of his mind in front of the cameras. I don't know how he got the black eye, but I hope it hurt like hell.

He was looking at Tesla forecasts.