Israel Just Attacked Iran

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DiabloWags
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8:29a
It's interesting to note that IRAN has literally ensnared each and every U.S. President since Ronald Reagan.
They've had an uncanny way of hijacking American presidencies.

The 1979 Iranian revolution and hostage crisis ended Carter's presidency.

The Iran-contra affair tainted Reagan's presidency.

Iranian machinations in post-war Iraq corroded GW Bush's presidency.

The October 7th attackes on israel by Hamas, triggered a brutal war that subsumed Biden's presidency.

Now it's Donald Trump's turn.



For Trump, both action and inaction in Iran have consequences, says Karim Sadjadpour

The president's time: How US-Iran relations are out of sync | Middle East Institute
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In reply to CaliforniaEternal • 8:31a
CaliforniaEternal said:
Soroka Hospital in Beersheba has been hit by an Iranian missile. The Iranian leadership is not long for this world just like the sinwar and nasrallah losers.

Pretty rich of you to claim victimhood after bombing dozens of hospitals in Gaza and Lebanon, and earlier this week, in Teheran.

Also, this:
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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:33a
DiabloWags said:
Cal88 said:
Oil price would skyrocket, Iran might strike Gulf oil installations and block the Hormuz Straight, setting off your nightmare scenario, Russian oil revenues through the roof...

I believe that the Saudi's and the rest of OPEC can pick up the slack.
No matter how many "conflicts" there have been, spikes in oil prices have always been temporary.

Saudi and GCC oil,... transiting through the Hormuz Straight?

If the Houthis were able to stop maritime traffic through the Red Sea straight for months, do you think the Iranians can't block the Hormuz Straight?
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:35a
Their Central command is reportedly over 2km away. This was reportedly a direct hit on the hospital.

If there really is a military installation under the hospital it becomes a valid target, as is the case with Gaza.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 8:46a
tequila4kapp said:
Their Central command is reportedly over 2km away. This was reportedly a direct hit on the hospital.

If there really is a military installation under the hospital it becomes a valid target, as is the case with Gaza.

Your claim of military installations under the 34+ Gaza hospitals that Israel has bombed is totally preposterous, and you know it.

As to the Beersheeba hospital in question, it is adjacent to sprawling Israeli military installations, and it is as well the main hospital treating Israeli soldiers wounded in Gaza. Apparently it was not directly hit, but impacted by the shockwave from bombing of adjacent military facilities, as seen in the pattern of shattered glass.







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11:04a
This indicates to me if he can get a "deal" in two weeks, he will claim victory and not involve. Some hope and maybe he realizes there is no off ramp for the Israelis unless they play ball
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 11:14a
Anarchistbear said:
This indicates to me if he can get a "deal" in two weeks, he will claim victory and not involve. Some hope.
I like that he's openly not working on Israel's timeline and giving Iran a chance to rethink their nuclear ambitions at least. Hopefully he can give them some good incentives to knock off some of the other things they are involved in as well. Israel media has openly been trying to push Trump into making a decision in 24-48 hours.
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 12:02p
Trump will have to substantially alter his tems for a deal to go through. The framework that has been set all but guarantees Iran won't take his offer. This is a good rundown:

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12:40p
They have absolutely zero need to enrich anything at any level. Zero. If there's some reason they cannot use their vast supply of oil for their energy needs they can import uranium. Trump cannot give in on this.
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1:19p
Which will happen first - We get to see Trump's healthcare plan or he makes a decision on Iran?

The media will move on when convenient for him. They always do.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:40p
Cal88 said:
tequila4kapp said:
Anarchistbear said:
The Israelis embed hospitals among military installations
More of your Israel hatred? Disgusting. Per AI, the nearest military installation is more than 2K away.


I didn't hear you complain about the 36 Gaza hospitals that Israel has bombed. Or the Iranian hospital in Teheran that Israel targeted with its guided bombs...



Agreed, I'm not particularly aggrieved about a hospital in Israel being hit after what they have been doing to civilian areas and hospitals for decades now.

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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 1:42p
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Hope
If he can pull it off, and that's a big IF, I'll give Trump a lot of credit
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My sense is he will end up f' ng this up though

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In reply to SBGold • 2:04p
SBGold said:
MinotStateBeav said:
Hope
If he can pull it off, and that's a big IF, I'll give Trump a lot of credit
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My sense is he will end up f' ng this up though

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Pull what off? Going TACO and then declaring he successfully avoided a war?
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In reply to dajo9 • 2:22p
If he does avoid the war, he would not be chickening out, as he could only do that by standing up to the MIC and Israel lobby.
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2:44p
Cool, they don't need us

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said on Thursday that Israel has the capability to achieve all its goals alone when it comes to Iran's nuclear facilities and that it is up to President Trump if he wants to join in or not.

Regime change in Iran was not a formal goal of the Israeli campaign, but "could be a result," Mr. Netanyahu said in a rare Israeli television interview with the country's public broadcaster, Kan, broadcast on Thursday evening.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 3:21p
Anarchistbear said:
Cool, they don't need us

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said on Thursday that Israel has the capability to achieve all its goals alone when it comes to Iran's nuclear facilities and that it is up to President Trump if he wants to join in or not.

Regime change in Iran was not a formal goal of the Israeli campaign, but "could be a result," Mr. Netanyahu said in a rare Israeli television interview with the country's public broadcaster, Kan, broadcast on Thursday evening.

It sounds like Trump reneged on joining in more directly in the Iran bombing campaign.
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In reply to Cal88 • 3:33p
If commandos go in they will remake Heroes of Telemark:


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If Israel and Trump do NOT eliminate the Iranian missile and nuclear capacities, that will make things worse.

If Israel takes out Iranian top leadership, that will lead to chaos that could be on the Iraq-Libya scale.

If the Iranian leadership survives, even without the top guy, they will rebuild their missile and nuclear capabilities.

If Israel "finishes the job" without needing American bunker buster bombs, Iran will still blame America for participating in the war.

If Iran makes an unexpected offer to get rid of all nuclear facilities and missile plants, neither Israel nor America would trust that to be true.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 4:37p
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Is that a demonstration of copy and paste skills…..or something more sinister?



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In reply to dajo9 • 4:58p
dajo9 said:
SBGold said:
MinotStateBeav said:
Hope
If he can pull it off, and that's a big IF, I'll give Trump a lot of credit
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My sense is he will end up f' ng this up though

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Pull what off? Going TACO and then declaring he successfully avoided a war?

You took the TACO right out of my mouth.
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In reply to bear2034 • 5:12p
bear2034 said:

If Israel and Trump do NOT eliminate the Iranian missile and nuclear capacities, that will make things worse.

If Israel takes out Iranian top leadership, that will lead to chaos that could be on the Iraq-Libya scale.

If the Iranian leadership survives, even without the top guy, they will rebuild their missile and nuclear capabilities.

If Israel "finishes the job" without needing American bunker buster bombs, Iran will still blame America for participating in the war.

If Iran makes an unexpected offer to get rid of all nuclear facilities and missile plants, neither Israel nor America would trust that to be true.
Some people only see glasses as half full. If they lived during WW2 I'm sure they'd have told us all the ways we were doomed no matter what.
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