Israel Just Attacked Iran

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In reply to bearister • 5:31p, 6/12/25
Ugh. Testing air defense?

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5:39p, 6/12/25
If Trump were president these domestic street conflicts and international warlike actions would never happen !
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IDF strikes Iran nuclear targets, military commanders | The Jerusalem Post


https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-857575

"The IDF targets also include commanders, bases, and nuclear sites, though the main goal is nuclear sites….

Mixed reports are saying there is a possibility that Israel has targeted the chief of staff of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps."
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In reply to concordtom • 5:57p, 6/12/25
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If Trump were president these domestic street conflicts and international warlike actions would never happen !

If the US did not actively participate in this raid, then Trump deserves some praise for that.

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In reply to Cal88 • 6:07p, 6/12/25
Cal88 said:
concordtom said:
If Trump were president these domestic street conflicts and international warlike actions would never happen !

If the US did not actively participate in this raid, then Trump deserves some praise for that.




He did pull all US service targets out of the area. Still, letting Israel attack a country you are having talks with about their nuclear program is a likely disaster for those talks
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In reply to bearister • 6:14p, 6/12/25
bearister said:
Israel Just Attacked Iran

Alex Padilla picked the wrong day to pull off his stunt.
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6:19p, 6/12/25
Trump needs to be a war President to achieve his goals. Netanyahu is doing Trump a calculated favor. Attacking Iran without our explicit assistance (we fund their military). Iran will retaliate against us. Trump will be a defensive war President and his popularity could surge. Could work. The American people are very stupid and easily manipulated.
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In reply to bear2034 • 6:25p, 6/12/25
bear2034 said:
bearister said:
Israel Just Attacked Iran

Alex Padilla picked the wrong day to pull off his stunt.


….and Trump picked a bad weekend to to roll out the military hardware he will be using in a new regional war.
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:29p, 6/12/25
dajo9 said:
Trump needs to be a war President to achieve his goals. Netanyahu is doing Trump a calculated favor. Attacking Iran without our explicit assistance (we fund their military). Iran will retaliate against us. Trump will be a defensive war President and his popularity could surge. Could work. The American people are very stupid and easily manipulated.


Thank God we have such an able cast assembled to guide an anxious nation and world through treacherous waters.

What time does the parade start Saturday and will Trump get his golf game in Sunday with a brief Cabinet meeting at the turn to discuss WWIII?
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7:26p, 6/12/25
This would never have happened if Joe Biden were still president.
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7:37p, 6/12/25


btw watch which politicians are racing to the mic right now...it will tell you a lot.
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In reply to bearister • 8:23p, 6/12/25
bearister said:
….and Trump picked a bad weekend to to roll out the military hardware he will be using in a new regional war.
Wrong. Even if the US did something militarily in the region Saturday - which is currently not at all looking to be likely - it would not involve the Army and its equipment. That's a mission for the other 3 branches
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In reply to sycasey • 9:21p, 6/12/25
sycasey said:
This would never have happened if Joe Biden were still president.
Correct. If Biden were still president, Iran would get a nuclear bomb as the IAEA just confirmed they are close to having.

This current war between Israel/Iran and the wars in Gaza/Lebanon are traceable to Obama/Biden and their empowerment of Iran.

And for those asserting there will be a regional war, please show your work. Who exactly will be fighting with Iran besides the Houthis? And who will Iran attack besides Israel? Iran is defenseless and largely powerless. If the regime survives, they will resort to terrorism - not actual warfare.

There is a possibility there will be a diplomatic solution after Iran strikes back against Israel (likely with complete futility). I suspect the bombing will not be fully successful in destroying Iranian nuclear sites. Iran can trade the full dismantling for a cease fire or other diplomatic solution.
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9:24p, 6/12/25
Trump's weakness led to this.
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In reply to chazzed • 9:29p, 6/12/25
chazzed said:
Trump's weakness led to this.
Yes, very clear that the world is more violent since he took over.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:58p, 6/12/25
When it comes to Israel, the tenant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave doesn't seem to have that much influence over it.
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In reply to Cal88 • 10:02p, 6/12/25
Cal88 said:
When it comes to Israel, the tenant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave doesn't seem to have that much influence over it.
That's not what I was told during the last administration.
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In reply to Cal88 • 10:16p, 6/12/25
Cal88 said:
When it comes to Israel, the tenant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave doesn't seem to have that much influence over it.


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In reply to sycasey • 10:19p, 6/12/25
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
When it comes to Israel, the tenant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave doesn't seem to have that much influence over it.
That's not what I was told during the last administration.
You both are so naive and afflicted by TDS. Do you really think Trump was not aware of this attack? There is no doubt he had advance knowledge, made no attempt to stop it and likely approved it (perhaps only tacitly).







He told Iran they had 60 days. Reportedly today was the 61st day.





Do either of you contend that the world is better off with a nuclear armed Iran?


Edit: Now it is confirmed Trump knew.


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11:30p, 6/12/25
Oh, so Trump was aware of this terrible idea to attack Iran. Great.
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In reply to chazzed • 12:57a, 6/13/25
chazzed said:
Trump's weakness led to this.

Trump didn't know, Trump knew.
Trump is weak, Trump is an authoritarian.
You're a man, but also a woman....drama queens.
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6:33a, 6/13/25


Art of the Deal

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7:16a, 6/13/25
So we have literally started WW-III using Israel as a proxy.
Got it.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:24a, 6/13/25
DiabloWags said:
So we have literally started WW-III using Israel as a proxy.
Got it.


Wait, I thought we started WW-III using Ukraine as a proxy.
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In reply to oski003 • 7:31a, 6/13/25
That's what you and all of your Trumpanzee buddies have claimed.
Not me.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:41a, 6/13/25
DiabloWags said:
So we have literally started WW-III using Israel as a proxy.
Got it.
"Literally"? That's absurd
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 7:45a, 6/13/25
tequila4kapp said:
DiabloWags said:
So we have literally started WW-III using Israel as a proxy.
Got it.
"Literally"? That's absurd


The U.S. has been using Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia for three years. Now, the U.S. uses Israel to strike Iran's nuclear facilities and we have literally started WW-III?
Wags statement is incredibly absurd and shows a severe lack of logic and extreme bias.
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7:47a, 6/13/25
Trump's smart. If this all blows up he can just blame the Jews.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 7:52a, 6/13/25
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Trump's smart. If this all blows up he can just blame the Jews.
I realize you are being cheeky but there's truth to it at some level. The US gets to enforce Trump's 60 day timeline; Israel gets to attack Iran.
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9:12a, 6/13/25
What happened to Iran's supposedly lethal missile systems? Talking heads claim we'll see their real response in a few days.

Israel seems to have cut the head of the snake off first. Will the Iron Dome stop most of the incoming? Is there airforce personnel deep? Have we loaned them pilots?

What JD Vance is likely alluding to is the use of Bunker Buster bombs to reach hardened deep underground Iranian nuclear facilities designed by the Germans. Have we given Israel our upgraded BB bomb?

FTR Obama funded the upgraded BB bomb. Cal and Chico State alum Dr. Bill Wattenburg on KGO radio (RIP) commented on its capabilities during Obama's presidency. As an active researcher at Lawrence Livermore Labs, Dr. Bill - PhD in physics - first noted that anything he revealed was publicly available. He stated that anything Iran had constructed deep underground - we could take out.

International sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program imposed during Trump's first term resulted in billions of dollars in assets frozen in foreign banks around the globe. Iran was financially crippled. With sanctions lifted by the Autopen / MIC / Obama / Sullivan / Anthony Bernal (Jill Biden COS), Iran had tens of Billions it could access.
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9:37a, 6/13/25
President Trump recently convened his top staff to Camp David, a place he isn't fond of, likely to prepare for the Israel-Iran conflict.

Also, via ABC News: "Zelenskyy said the U.S. would divert "20,000 missiles" earmarked for Ukraine in an agreement with the Biden administration to the Middle East, where it appears the U.S. would use them for its own force protection,...

"The Pentagon declined to confirm the assets were being redirected for the Middle East.

"The Ukrainian president said the assets were "not expensive, but [a] special technology" which specifically defended against Shahed drones."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/zelenskyy-us-moved-20000-missiles-fight-drones-ukraine/story?id=122662585
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In reply to movielover • 9:46a, 6/13/25
movielover said:
President Trump recently convened his top staff to Camp David, a place he isn't fond of, likely to prepare for the Israel-Iran conflict.

Also, via ABC News: "Zelenskyy said the U.S. would divert "20,000 missiles" earmarked for Ukraine in an

Why would President Chump not be fond of Camp David?
He invited the TALIBAN there in Septemeber of 2019.

So much for 9/11

Trump Says He Secretly Invited Taliban Leaders, Afghanistan President To U.S. | HuffPost Latest News
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