CA will challenge.

How're people going to get from Bakersfield to Fresno?

Anarchistbear said:

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How're people going to get from Bakersfield to Fresno?

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Elon's self-driving Tesla robotaxis?

Anarchistbear said:

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How're people going to get from Bakersfield to Fresno?

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put bike lanes on 99

you're welcome

Technically, many transport systems in the US already qualify as "bullet" trains. A lot of "knife" trains as well.

Meanwhile, China (aka: manufacturer for the world) continues to pump out bullet train rail lines faster than you can say "Trump Sucks".

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China has developed its high-speed rail (HSR) network at an unprecedented pace, building the world's largest network in just two decades. This rapid expansion, fueled by government investment and technological advancements, has transformed transportation within China and positioned the country as a global leader in HSR technology.
Here's a breakdown of the key aspects of China's HSR development:
Rapid Expansion:
China's HSR network exceeded 46,000 kilometers by the end of 2024, adding over 3,100 kilometers of new railway in that year alone.
The network is expected to reach 70,000 kilometers by 2035.
This rapid growth is especially notable considering that half of the current network was completed in the last five years, according to CNN.
Key Milestones and Development Stages:
Early plans and works began in 1997, with the first high-speed track inaugurated in 2007-2008, according to Railway Technology.
Subsequent years saw the rapid development and expansion of various HSR lines, including the Beijing-Shanghai, Beijing-Guangzhou, and Shanghai-Wuhan-Chengdu routes, according to Railway Technology.
China has also expanded its HSR network to bordering countries, like Laos, as part of its Belt and Road Initiative.
Factors Contributing to the Rapid Pace:
Government Investment:
Generous funding from the Chinese government has been a crucial factor in the rapid development.
Technological Advancements:
China has imported and adapted HSR technology from countries like Japan, Germany, and France, while also developing its own internal production capabilities.
Efficient Construction Techniques:
China has pioneered new techniques and overcome challenging obstacles, such as tunneling through mountains, to build its HSR network, according to Engineering.com.
Future Outlook:
China aims to achieve a 3-hour travel circle between major cities nationwide by 2035.
The country is also actively promoting its HSR technology and expertise in other countries.
A new generation of trains, like the CR450, is being developed with speeds of up to 400km/h.
Impact and Influence:
China's HSR network has significantly reduced travel times and improved connectivity across the country.
The rapid development and expansion of HSR have also boosted China's global influence in the field of transportation technology.
The HSR network has had a major impact on urban development, with new towns and economic opportunities emerging along the routes.

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Separate from the above, there's a book that addressed this called "Hot, Flat, and Crowded - why we need a green revolution and how it can renew America." People should check it out!



I think Friedman should write a follow-up called "Stupid, Fat, and Has Beens - why America lost its edge and how it's not getting it back."

Have you read "Abundance" by Ezra Klein and Derek Thomson? It's been making the rounds. Focusing on the issues in addressing policy challenges, and perhaps more astute and practical than Friedman's sweeping generalizations.

One important data point about China's high speed rail project: they spent more on HSR construction in the early 2010s than they did on their entire military budget - food for thought.

concordtom said:

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Meanwhile, China (aka: manufacturer for the world) continues to pump out bullet train rail lines faster than you can say "Trump Sucks".

Quote:

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China has developed its high-speed rail (HSR) network at an unprecedented pace, building the world's largest network in just two decades. This rapid expansion, fueled by government investment and technological advancements, has transformed transportation within China and positioned the country as a global leader in HSR technology.
Here's a breakdown of the key aspects of China's HSR development:
Rapid Expansion:
China's HSR network exceeded 46,000 kilometers by the end of 2024, adding over 3,100 kilometers of new railway in that year alone.
The network is expected to reach 70,000 kilometers by 2035.
This rapid growth is especially notable considering that half of the current network was completed in the last five years, according to CNN.
Key Milestones and Development Stages:
Early plans and works began in 1997, with the first high-speed track inaugurated in 2007-2008, according to Railway Technology.
Subsequent years saw the rapid development and expansion of various HSR lines, including the Beijing-Shanghai, Beijing-Guangzhou, and Shanghai-Wuhan-Chengdu routes, according to Railway Technology.
China has also expanded its HSR network to bordering countries, like Laos, as part of its Belt and Road Initiative.
Factors Contributing to the Rapid Pace:
Government Investment:
Generous funding from the Chinese government has been a crucial factor in the rapid development.
Technological Advancements:
China has imported and adapted HSR technology from countries like Japan, Germany, and France, while also developing its own internal production capabilities.
Efficient Construction Techniques:
China has pioneered new techniques and overcome challenging obstacles, such as tunneling through mountains, to build its HSR network, according to Engineering.com.
Future Outlook:
China aims to achieve a 3-hour travel circle between major cities nationwide by 2035.
The country is also actively promoting its HSR technology and expertise in other countries.
A new generation of trains, like the CR450, is being developed with speeds of up to 400km/h.
Impact and Influence:
China's HSR network has significantly reduced travel times and improved connectivity across the country.
The rapid development and expansion of HSR have also boosted China's global influence in the field of transportation technology.
The HSR network has had a major impact on urban development, with new towns and economic opportunities emerging along the routes.

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Separate from the above, there's a book that addressed this called "Hot, Flat, and Crowded - why we need a green revolution and how it can renew America." People should check it out!



I think Friedman should write a follow-up called "Stupid, Fat, and Has Beens - why America lost its edge and how it's not getting it back."

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Hey CT, remember to add Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom to your list of politicians who suck. They are the ones who've been trying to be the train to nowhere since 2008, that's 17 years now.

Billions and billions and billions of taxpayer dollar spent, nothing accomplished and no future for this.

More on the bonfire of taxpayer money and the green train to nowhere brought to us by progressive California politicians…

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/californias-bullet-train-boondoggle-keeps-chugging-along-rail-spending-594dc5d9?st=A4Vfuo

Cal88 said:

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Have you read "Abundance" by Ezra Klein and Derek Thomson? It's been making the rounds. Focusing on the issues in addressing policy challenges, and perhaps more astute and practical than Friedman's sweeping generalizations.

One important data point about China's high speed rail project: they spent more on HSR construction in the early 2010s than they did on their entire military budget - food for thought.

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Beware the military industrial complex.


Ezra Klein…hang on. Lemme see if it's in Libby for me….yes! 7 week hold. Thx.

NVBear78 said:

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Hey CT, remember to add Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom to your list of politicians who suck. They are the ones who've been trying to be the train to nowhere since 2008, that's 17 years now.

Billions and billions and billions of taxpayer dollar spent, nothing accomplished and no future for this.

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I really know little about it.
How much has been spent on land or lawyers as opposed to actual "stuff"?