Massie stepping up a bit

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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movielover said:

Massie voted against the border, the SAVE Act, and the BBB? From a deep Red state.

Massie did all that and he's still protecting the peedos. What is he waiting for?

No worries, PAC-10-BEAR, Kash Patel is on it.

Massie promised, where are the Massie files?


Weird that you are so focused on Massie to disclose all the Epstein names (which I think he will before he's done), while you don't ask the same of all the other GOP in Congress, or even worse, the administration of your Dear Leader, who did promise full transparency on the Epstein Files but did a 180 instead and went out of his way to oust the two Congress reps who did more than anybody elese to expose the Epstein pedo blackmail operation!

The biggest fish in the Epstein files has already been named by Massie, Les Wexner, who was one of the main financiers of Epstein. Massie is not letting that go:

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How do you feel about supporting a purported lawyer that can't spell Abdul?
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

Massie voted against the border, the SAVE Act, and the BBB? From a deep Red state.

Massie did all that and he's still protecting the peedos. What is he waiting for?

No worries, PAC-10-BEAR, Kash Patel is on it.

Massie promised, where are the Massie files?


Weird that you are so focused on Massie to disclose all the Epstein names (which I think he will before he's done), while you don't ask the same of all the other GOP in Congress, or even worse, the administration of your Dear Leader, who did promise full transparency on the Epstein Files but did a 180 instead and went out of his way to oust the two Congress reps who did more than anybody elese to expose the Epstein pedo blackmail operation!

The biggest fish in the Epstein files has already been named by Massie, Les Wexner, who was one of the main financiers of Epstein. Massie is not letting that go:


Without any new evidence, Massie says the DOJ should investigate these men further. That's the big reveal. That's the massive coverup he's been going on about for almost a year now. Imagine if he had started off with that claim. He probably wouldn't have raised much money off of it.

I called it a grift last year and lost a bunch of followers for doing so, but I think that most reasonable people can see the grift now.


What is Massie supposed to reveal?

Jes Staley
  • Links and timeline: Staley (former JPMorgan executive and Barclays CEO) had a professional and personal relationship with Epstein dating back to around 2000 (when Epstein was already a JPMorgan client). They exchanged over 1,200 emails, socialized, and Staley visited Epstein's island. Contact continued after Epstein's 2008 conviction.

    standard.co.uk
  • Investigations and actions: UK Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) investigated starting around 2019-2020 after Epstein's death, leading to findings that Staley "recklessly misled" regulators about the closeness of the relationship. He was fined and banned for life from senior UK financial roles (upheld in 2025). JPMorgan sued him in 2023 over his handling of the Epstein account.

    bloomberg.com
  • Lawsuits: Named in civil suits against JPMorgan (e.g., by US Virgin Islands and victims alleging the bank enabled trafficking); ongoing shareholder class actions against Barclays over disclosures about his Epstein ties (as recent as 2025). He has denied knowledge of Epstein's crimes.

    theguardian.com
These issues were widely reported starting in 2019-2021.

Leslie Wexner
  • Links and timeline: Wexner (Victoria's Secret/L Brands founder) was Epstein's primary early client and financial manager relationship, starting in the mid-to-late 1980s (introduced via mutual contacts). Wexner granted Epstein power of attorney in 1991, significant control over his finances/assets, and the relationship lasted until around 2007. Epstein helped manage Wexner's wealth and entities.

    rollingstone.com
  • Investigations and actions: FBI documents from 2019 listed him as a potential co-conspirator (though DOJ later said limited evidence and he was not a target/charged). He has been deposed by Congress (2026) and faced scrutiny over knowledge/enabling.

    en.wikipedia.org
  • Lawsuits: Multiple civil suits by Epstein victims/survivors alleging he enabled trafficking (e.g., providing funds, properties like the NYC mansion where abuse allegedly occurred). New suits as recent as 2026, but the core connections and allegations date back years. Wexner has denied knowledge or participation in crimes, saying he was duped.

    ohiocapitaljournal.com
Public reporting on this relationship intensified around 2019.

Leon Black
  • Links and timeline: Black (Apollo Global Management co-founder) knew Epstein since the mid-1990s and paid him ~$158-170 million (2012-2017) for tax/estate planning and other services. Meetings were frequent; Epstein also helped with personal matters.

    abcnews.com
  • Investigations and actions: Apollo's internal review (Dechert report, 2021), Senate Finance Committee probes (ongoing, including tax implications), and scrutiny over payments potentially tied to Epstein's network. Black stepped down from Apollo in 2021 amid revelations.

    en.wikipedia.org
  • Lawsuits: Civil suits accusing him of rape/sexual assault of minors trafficked by Epstein (filed 2023 onward, with some earlier related claims); settled with US Virgin Islands for $62.5M in 2023 to resolve potential claims. He has denied the allegations and any knowledge of Epstein's crimes.

    theguardian.com
These were major news stories from 2020-2021 onward. In summary, while newer Epstein file releases (post-2025) have added details or renewed attention fueled calls for prosecutions the core public implications, regulatory/civil investigations, and lawsuits for all three stretch back many years (often to 2019-2021 or earlier for initial links).
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

Massie voted against the border, the SAVE Act, and the BBB? From a deep Red state.

Massie did all that and he's still protecting the peedos. What is he waiting for?

No worries, PAC-10-BEAR, Kash Patel is on it.

Massie promised, where are the Massie files?


Weird that you are so focused on Massie to disclose all the Epstein names (which I think he will before he's done), while you don't ask the same of all the other GOP in Congress, or even worse, the administration of your Dear Leader, who did promise full transparency on the Epstein Files but did a 180 instead and went out of his way to oust the two Congress reps who did more than anybody elese to expose the Epstein pedo blackmail operation!

The biggest fish in the Epstein files has already been named by Massie, Les Wexner, who was one of the main financiers of Epstein. Massie is not letting that go:


Without any new evidence, Massie says the DOJ should investigate these men further. That's the big reveal. That's the massive coverup he's been going on about for almost a year now. Imagine if he had started off with that claim. He probably wouldn't have raised much money off of it.

I called it a grift last year and lost a bunch of followers for doing so, but I think that most reasonable people can see the grift now.


What is Massie supposed to reveal?

Jes Staley
  • Links and timeline: Staley (former JPMorgan executive and Barclays CEO) had a professional and personal relationship with Epstein dating back to around 2000 (when Epstein was already a JPMorgan client). They exchanged over 1,200 emails, socialized, and Staley visited Epstein's island. Contact continued after Epstein's 2008 conviction.

    standard.co.uk
  • Investigations and actions: UK Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) investigated starting around 2019-2020 after Epstein's death, leading to findings that Staley "recklessly misled" regulators about the closeness of the relationship. He was fined and banned for life from senior UK financial roles (upheld in 2025). JPMorgan sued him in 2023 over his handling of the Epstein account.

    bloomberg.com
  • Lawsuits: Named in civil suits against JPMorgan (e.g., by US Virgin Islands and victims alleging the bank enabled trafficking); ongoing shareholder class actions against Barclays over disclosures about his Epstein ties (as recent as 2025). He has denied knowledge of Epstein's crimes.

    theguardian.com
These issues were widely reported starting in 2019-2021.

Leslie Wexner
  • Links and timeline: Wexner (Victoria's Secret/L Brands founder) was Epstein's primary early client and financial manager relationship, starting in the mid-to-late 1980s (introduced via mutual contacts). Wexner granted Epstein power of attorney in 1991, significant control over his finances/assets, and the relationship lasted until around 2007. Epstein helped manage Wexner's wealth and entities.

    rollingstone.com
  • Investigations and actions: FBI documents from 2019 listed him as a potential co-conspirator (though DOJ later said limited evidence and he was not a target/charged). He has been deposed by Congress (2026) and faced scrutiny over knowledge/enabling.

    en.wikipedia.org
  • Lawsuits: Multiple civil suits by Epstein victims/survivors alleging he enabled trafficking (e.g., providing funds, properties like the NYC mansion where abuse allegedly occurred). New suits as recent as 2026, but the core connections and allegations date back years. Wexner has denied knowledge or participation in crimes, saying he was duped.

    ohiocapitaljournal.com
Public reporting on this relationship intensified around 2019.

Leon Black
  • Links and timeline: Black (Apollo Global Management co-founder) knew Epstein since the mid-1990s and paid him ~$158-170 million (2012-2017) for tax/estate planning and other services. Meetings were frequent; Epstein also helped with personal matters.

    abcnews.com
  • Investigations and actions: Apollo's internal review (Dechert report, 2021), Senate Finance Committee probes (ongoing, including tax implications), and scrutiny over payments potentially tied to Epstein's network. Black stepped down from Apollo in 2021 amid revelations.

    en.wikipedia.org
  • Lawsuits: Civil suits accusing him of rape/sexual assault of minors trafficked by Epstein (filed 2023 onward, with some earlier related claims); settled with US Virgin Islands for $62.5M in 2023 to resolve potential claims. He has denied the allegations and any knowledge of Epstein's crimes.

    theguardian.com
These were major news stories from 2020-2021 onward. In summary, while newer Epstein file releases (post-2025) have added details or renewed attention fueled calls for prosecutions the core public implications, regulatory/civil investigations, and lawsuits for all three stretch back many years (often to 2019-2021 or earlier for initial links).


tl;dr of AI slop : the DOJ let them skate.
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Cal88 said:

tl;dr of AI slop

the truth hurts.
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I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.
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If the Epstein Files were going to be released, how many people would be taken to the train station?

Patel and Bongino gave one interview together, and they both looked spooked.
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Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

I know you do this for your Israel-Palestine related posts but you're doing this for Epstein-Massie posts too?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.


That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.

During the first Trump admin, Epstein was charged with and convicted on elements of sex trafficking while Ghislaine Maxwell was charged with trafficking minors to Epstein.

If Massie has information (financial trails, comms) that the DOJ is hiding about a blackmail operation, I would love to see it.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.

During the first Trump admin, Epstein was charged with and convicted on elements of sex trafficking while Ghislaine Maxwell was charged with trafficking minors to Epstein.

If Massie has information (financial trails, comms) that the DOJ is hiding about a blackmail operation, I would love to see it.


Why do you think they are hiding 3 million documents.
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.

During the first Trump admin, Epstein was charged with and convicted on elements of sex trafficking while Ghislaine Maxwell was charged with trafficking minors to Epstein.

If Massie has information (financial trails, comms) that the DOJ is hiding about a blackmail operation, I would love to see it.

Why do you think they are hiding 3 million documents.

Who's hiding 3 million of what, where?
Cal88
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.

During the first Trump admin, Epstein was charged with and convicted on elements of sex trafficking while Ghislaine Maxwell was charged with trafficking minors to Epstein.

If Massie has information (financial trails, comms) that the DOJ is hiding about a blackmail operation, I would love to see it.

Why do you think they are hiding 3 million documents.

Who's hiding 3 million of what, where?


You mean Sideboob Gina and Gunther Eagleman haven't filled you in on this?
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

I guess this won't hurt at all then.



There's your Trump DOJ.

Was your video too long to listen to the entire clip?

Kash said there is no credible information that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked minors to "other individuals besides himself". Your tweet conveniently left that part out.

That would be just as big a lie. Epstein trafficked minors to entrap VIPs, politicians that was the whole point of his blackmail operation.

During the first Trump admin, Epstein was charged with and convicted on elements of sex trafficking while Ghislaine Maxwell was charged with trafficking minors to Epstein.

If Massie has information (financial trails, comms) that the DOJ is hiding about a blackmail operation, I would love to see it.

Why do you think they are hiding 3 million documents.

Who's hiding 3 million of what, where?

You mean Sideboob Gina and Gunther Eagleman haven't filled you in on this?


Are they boating with Massie and MTG as well?
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Nice!
Go Bears!

let me be the first to welcome you back, ummm, a couple more weeks from now
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sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
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Random observation: all the losers who are no longer relevant, Massie, Steyer, Bondi, Epstein, Noem, Gabbard, Cornyn, Comey, Walz, Harris, Bolton (partial list)... I wouldn't mind just never hearing about them again ever.
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Big C said:


Random observation: all the losers who are no longer relevant, Massie, Steyer, Bondi, Epstein, Noem, Gabbard, Cornyn, Comey, Walz, Harris, Bolton (partial list)... I wouldn't mind just never hearing about them again ever.





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Yes, it's real.
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bearister said:

Big C said:


Random observation: all the losers who are no longer relevant, Massie, Steyer, Bondi, Epstein, Noem, Gabbard, Cornyn, Comey, Walz, Harris, Bolton (partial list)... I wouldn't mind just never hearing about them again ever.








Bondi and her replacement have the corrupt dummies in the IC and Lawfare worried. That's a good thing. The unelected 4th Branch.
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WTH?

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movielover said:

WTH?




You're more concerned about the timing of Massie's address about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty than on the attack itself?



Massie was the first Congressman to speak up on the behalf of the USS Liberty survivors, 59 years after Israel attacked their ship.


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Cal88 said:

movielover said:

WTH?




You're more concerned about the timing of Massie's address about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty than on the attack itself?



Massie was the first Congressman to speak up on the behalf of the USS Liberty survivors, 59 years after Israel attacked their ship.




We should suddenly be outraged by this outrageous accidental attack, which happened 59 years ago. SARCASM
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

movielover said:

WTH?




You're more concerned about the timing of Massie's address about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty than on the attack itself?



Massie was the first Congressman to speak up on the behalf of the USS Liberty survivors, 59 years after Israel attacked their ship.


We should suddenly be outraged by this outrageous accidental attack, which happened 59 years ago. SARCASM

You should be outraged that your leaders have been covering it up for 59 years, but please, more posts about what immigrants are doing in England.
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

movielover said:

WTH?




You're more concerned about the timing of Massie's address about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty than on the attack itself?



Massie was the first Congressman to speak up on the behalf of the USS Liberty survivors, 59 years after Israel attacked their ship.




We should suddenly be outraged by this outrageous accidental attack, which happened 59 years ago. SARCASM


Nothing "accidental" about the Israeli false flag attempted sinking of the USS Liberty, which was done in several successive waves of sea and air attacks while the ship was flying a large American flag in clear weather.

And the reason it is being brought up is that there is still an ongoing coverup 59 years later, with a formal gag order placed on surviving sailors, who have been fighting for justice for their fellow dead shipmates.

As well, notice the double standard here with neocons constantly bringing the attack on the Beirut Marines barracks 44 years ago in order to build consent for the war on Iran. That attack BTW could have been prevented by Israel, which had advance knowledge of the operation and let it happen:


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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

movielover said:

WTH?




You're more concerned about the timing of Massie's address about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty than on the attack itself?



Massie was the first Congressman to speak up on the behalf of the USS Liberty survivors, 59 years after Israel attacked their ship.




We should suddenly be outraged by this outrageous accidental attack, which happened 59 years ago. SARCASM


Nothing "accidental" about the Israeli false flag attempted sinking of the USS Liberty, which was done in several successive waves of sea and air attacks while the ship was flying a large American flag in clear weather.

And the reason it is being brought up is that there is still an ongoing coverup 59 years later, with a formal gag order placed on surviving sailors, who have been fighting for justice for their fellow dead shipmates.

As well, notice the double standard here with neocons constantly bringing the attack on the Beirut Marines barracks 44 years ago in order to build consent for the war on Iran. That attack BTW could have been prevented by Israel, which had advance knowledge of the operation and let it happen:





I am not familiar with Neocons bringing up a 44 year old attack as a pretext to attack Iran. As far as the USA Liberty attack, if you truly believe that Israel sank the ship on purpose knowing it was American, we can be upset at the attack and cover up and feel the $80 million or so in compensation was not satisfactory. I am not currently outraged. Thanks.
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Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.
oski003
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.


I don't consider myself a right-wing patriot. It appears tragic and the victims are suspicious that Israel knew or at least discovered at the tail end of the attack that the plane was American. I can see why they are upset. Thanks.
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.


I don't consider myself a right-wing patriot. It appears tragic and the victims are suspicious that Israel knew or at least discovered at the tail end of the attack that the plane was American. I can see why they are upset. Thanks.

So you're a centrist zionist then?

It was an entirely premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt. There were 7 reconnaissance overflights before the attack begun, and radio intercepts with Israeli commanders ordering pilots to fire at the ship after the pilots told their commanders that it was a USN ship.

This is also the consensus among all the survivors that it was a premediated, deliberate and sustained attempt to kill them all (Israeli pilots even strafing life rafts) which was only stopped by a heroic effort by a wounded sailor who climbed up the main mast with a makeshift radio to send a distress signal after Israeli pilots knocked down the main radio antenna.

At some point you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli apologism.
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.


I don't consider myself a right-wing patriot. It appears tragic and the victims are suspicious that Israel knew or at least discovered at the tail end of the attack that the plane was American. I can see why they are upset. Thanks.

So you're a centrist zionist then?

It was an entirely premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt. There were 7 reconnaissance overflights before the attack begun, and radio intercepts with Israeli commanders ordering pilots to fire at the ship after the pilots told their commanders that it was a USN ship.

This is also the consensus among all the survivors that it was a premediated, deliberate and sustained attempt to kill them all (Israeli pilots even strafing life rafts) which was only stopped by a heroic effort by a wounded sailor who climbed up the main mast with a makeshift radio to send a distress signal after Israeli pilots knocked down the main radio antenna.

At some point you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli apologism.



No, not a Centrist Zionist, and it is far from settled that it was a "premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt."

There appears to be evidence, based on your videos, that Israel continued the attack once they identified the ships as American and committed a war crime by crippling SOS communication. However, this matter was settled with the US Government 60 years ago.

At some point, you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli hatred.
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.


I don't consider myself a right-wing patriot. It appears tragic and the victims are suspicious that Israel knew or at least discovered at the tail end of the attack that the plane was American. I can see why they are upset. Thanks.

So you're a centrist zionist then?

It was an entirely premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt. There were 7 reconnaissance overflights before the attack begun, and radio intercepts with Israeli commanders ordering pilots to fire at the ship after the pilots told their commanders that it was a USN ship.

This is also the consensus among all the survivors that it was a premediated, deliberate and sustained attempt to kill them all (Israeli pilots even strafing life rafts) which was only stopped by a heroic effort by a wounded sailor who climbed up the main mast with a makeshift radio to send a distress signal after Israeli pilots knocked down the main radio antenna.

At some point you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli apologism.



No, not a Centrist Zionist, and it is far from settled that it was a "premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt."

There appears to be evidence, based on your videos, that Israel continued the attack once they identified the ships as American and committed a war crime by crippling SOS communication. However, this matter was settled with the US Government 60 years ago.

At some point, you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli hatred.


Of course it was a deliberate false flag attack by Israel on an unarmed USN ship. The goal clearly was to sink the ship and leave no survivors, then blame Egypt for this, creating a casus belli for the US.

This is only one of many well-documented Israeli false flag attacks on US and western targets in the region, meant to generate animosity towards Israel's enemies and use US blood and treasure to fight them, and that's the reason the USS Liberty false flag attack is so relevant today, the war on Iran being another chapter in Endless War fought on behalf of Israel.

And "the matter" was never settled, the cover up is still ongoing, to the great dismay of the survivors, the official version still being the lie that the Israelis didn't think it was a US Navy ship. Massie was the first Congressman to state the facts and ask for justice for the survivors and their dead shipmates.

FYI the US Navy coverup was led by admiral McCain, John's father.

It's kind of amazing that you would side with the Israelis and against the Navy survivors, the level of gaslighting here is unbelievable.
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:




Solid propaganda.


The propaganda here is the material you've been fed that is making you believe that the survivors of the USS Liberty would lie about their fallen shipmates and how they were deliberately attacked by Israel.

Truly astounding that you believe in the zionist narrative as an alleged right wing patriot.


I don't consider myself a right-wing patriot. It appears tragic and the victims are suspicious that Israel knew or at least discovered at the tail end of the attack that the plane was American. I can see why they are upset. Thanks.

So you're a centrist zionist then?

It was an entirely premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt. There were 7 reconnaissance overflights before the attack begun, and radio intercepts with Israeli commanders ordering pilots to fire at the ship after the pilots told their commanders that it was a USN ship.

This is also the consensus among all the survivors that it was a premediated, deliberate and sustained attempt to kill them all (Israeli pilots even strafing life rafts) which was only stopped by a heroic effort by a wounded sailor who climbed up the main mast with a makeshift radio to send a distress signal after Israeli pilots knocked down the main radio antenna.

At some point you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli apologism.



No, not a Centrist Zionist, and it is far from settled that it was a "premeditated, deliberate false flag attack by Israel, meant to blame the attack on Egypt in order to create animus among the US public and a US war on Egypt."

There appears to be evidence, based on your videos, that Israel continued the attack once they identified the ships as American and committed a war crime by crippling SOS communication. However, this matter was settled with the US Government 60 years ago.

At some point, you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli hatred.


Of course it was a deliberate false flag attack by Israel on an unarmed USN ship. The goal clearly was to sink the ship and leave no survivors, then blame Egypt for this, creating a casus belli for the US.

This is only one of many well-documented Israeli false flag attacks on US and western targets in the region, meant to generate animosity towards Israel's enemies and use US blood and treasure to fight them, and that's the reason the USS Liberty false flag attack is so relevant today, the war on Iran being another chapter in Endless War fought on behalf of Israel.

And "the matter" was never settled, the cover up is still ongoing, to the great dismay of the survivors, the official version still being the lie that the Israelis didn't think it was a US Navy ship. Massie was the first Congressman to state the facts and ask for justice for the survivors and their dead shipmates.

FYI the US Navy coverup was led by admiral McCain, John's father.

It's kind of amazing that you would side with the Israelis and against the Navy survivors, the level of gaslighting here is unbelievable.


Again, there appears to be evidence, based on your videos, that Israel continued the attack once they identified the ships as American and committed a war crime by crippling SOS communication. However, this matter was settled with the US Government 60 years ago.

At some point, you need to stop doubling down on your Israeli hatred. No matter how much you accuse others of being Zionists or gaslighting or whatever crap you throw at people you disagree with, you aren't right. I am not siding with anyone.
 
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