Was kirk a racist or not ?

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9:49a, 9/12/25
Why ? Or Why not ?
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In reply to going4roses • 12:12p, 9/12/25
going4roses said:
Why ? Or Why not ?


From what i have read/heard his position on race is a trollish version of that articulated by justice Thomas on affirmative action - where those policies undercut and undermine the accomplishments of the individual.

I do not think those views are racist. I do believe they are wrong and often require a willful disregard for history and the creation of strawmen ideas of specific affirmative action policies.
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In reply to socaltownie • 12:17p, 9/12/25
socaltownie said:
going4roses said:
Why ? Or Why not ?


From what i have read/heard his position on race is a trollish version of that articulated by justice Thomas on affirmative action - where those policies undercut and undermine the accomplishments of the individual.

I do not think those views are racist. I do believe they are wrong and often require a willful disregard for history and the creation of strawmen ideas of specific affirmative action policies.
I'd agree with this, it's just one approach he takes in his debates, but not entirely as others have noted.
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1:00p, 9/12/25
Hmm

I'll add then why are Historical Black Colleges supposedly getting death threats ?
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In reply to going4roses • 1:05p, 9/12/25
going4roses said:
Hmm

I'll add then why are Historical Black Colleges supposedly getting death threats ?

Because there are crazy people in the world> Because the Russian trolls are active? Because they often get bomb threats and we have a spurious correlation. I do not think there is an easy line to draw here.

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In reply to going4roses • 1:15p, 9/12/25
going4roses said:
Why ? Or Why not ?

Similarly, do you beat your wife?

Why? or why not?
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In reply to going4roses • 3:07p, 9/12/25
going4roses said:
Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.
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In reply to dajo9 • 4:18p, 9/12/25
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Charlie Kirk

"If I see a White pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy, I hope he isn't drunk."
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4:21p, 9/12/25


The same DEI logic applies to Secret Service agents. You all know this but pretend like you're offended.

And if you're going to quote someone on the right, you might as well include the full video clip because the dajo9's and DiabloWags of the world have a nasty habit of taking things out of context to serve their own purposes.
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4:26p, 9/12/25
He was maximizing engagement on the algorithm. Whatever it takes.
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:20p, 9/12/25
He questioned DEI hires
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:21p, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
He questioned DEI hires

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:22p, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
He questioned DEI hires


You use that framing because you are racist
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:25p, 9/12/25
Such a leap. You don't know me or what skin color I have
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:27p, 9/12/25
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Such a leap. You don't know me or what skin color I have


You shared enough to know
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 5:27p, 9/12/25
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He was maximizing engagement on the algorithm. Whatever it takes.


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In reply to dajo9 • 5:34p, 9/12/25
Sigh. You're one of those that think minorities have to vote dem or they are racist too right?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:38p, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
He questioned DEI hires

Yeah, "he questioned DEI hires":

"If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they're coming out and they're saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

All 4 of these Black women are either Harvard or Yale graduates, and Charlie Kirk (who never got a college degree from any school) says none of these women have "the brain processing power" to be taken seriously without having to first "steal a white person's slot".

Of course Charlie Kirk was a racist, just like Donald Trump. How is this fact even open to question?
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In reply to socaltownie • 5:39p, 9/12/25
Racism isn't a trolling topic unless you are a comedian and very good one imo.
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In reply to OsoDorado • 5:40p, 9/12/25
Pull up the full quote. Not cut and parsed. No … include it all.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:43p, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
Pull up the full quote. Not cut and parsed. No … include it all.

You pull it up since you're defending him. I gave you the source.

What I quoted was accurate, and enough to support the fact that Charlie Kirk was a racist like Donald Trump.

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:44p, 9/12/25
Depends on which minority all minorities don't vote the same like the Mexicans and Cubans voted for trump right.

That proximity to whiteness breeds capitulation ( sellouts/ turncoats)

Most Black people ( descendants of chattel slaves) are moderate because we know both sides aren't shhh neither side wants tangible repair or change in the Black community
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In reply to OsoDorado • 6:00p, 9/12/25
OsoDorado said:
BearlySane88 said:
He questioned DEI hires

Yeah, "he questioned DEI hires":

"If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they're coming out and they're saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

All 4 of these Black women are either Harvard or Yale graduates, and Charlie Kirk (who never got a college degree from any school) says none of these women have "the brain processing power" to be taken seriously without having to first "steal a white person's slot".

Of course Charlie Kirk was a racist, just like Donald Trump. How is this fact even open to question?


Joy Reid admitted publicly she was a DEI/affirmative action hire/admit thanks to left wing policies. At least she's believes what she says sometimes.
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In reply to OsoDorado • 6:05p, 9/12/25
Love that you bring proof but won't even go through the effort of presenting the whole truth.

Neither Trump nor Charlie are racists
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In reply to going4roses • 6:07p, 9/12/25
No minority is racist for voting red
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:08p, 9/12/25
I wish they would have kept her on the air, her takes were always so bat **** crazy. I enjoyed the laugh
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6:19p, 9/12/25
Deep dive depository for Trump on race:

What exactly Trump has said about race | PBS News https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:20p, 9/12/25
I've never seen anyone on the Bearinsider quote the great Joy Reid.
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6:21p, 9/12/25
MAGA!
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:33p, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
No minority is racist for voting red

The only thing the other side hates more than a Trump voter is a black Trump voter.
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6:43p, 9/12/25

This coming from a black pilled, disappointed libertarian.
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In reply to going4roses • 7:35p, 9/12/25
going4roses said:
Why ? Or Why not ?
oh hell yes he was.
Just read some of his quotes to do either race
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In reply to bearister • 5:10a, 9/13/25
bearister said:
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Charlie Kirk

Charlie didn't say that. You just did.

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
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In reply to bearister • 10:25p, 9/13/25
bearister said:
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Charlie Kirk

"If I see a White pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy, I hope he isn't drunk."
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