sycasey said:
BearGoggles said:
The FCC commissioners comments are wrong and dangerous. Threatening companies with regulatory reprisals based on the content of speech is wrong. It is remarkable that liberals are now reaching this conclusion after watching the Biden Admin (and before him Obama) do exact the same thing - with the silence (if not encouragement) of these same now outraged liberals. The only difference was that Biden and Obama hid what they were doing, whereas Carr is openly admitting it (which shows its own level of stupidity and arrogance).
No, the difference is that no one could find a real example of anyone being harmed by the Biden policies (that's why the case that came before SCOTUS failed for lack of standing), but now we've got a big glaring example of the Trump administration's demands directly leading to a curtailing of speech.
That's the thing: Biden's people talked a lot about it but never actually did anything. Trump's team just did something.
First of all, you have a severe misunderstanding of what lack of standing means and the ruling in Murthy v. Missouri. A finding of lack of standing doesn't mean that "
no one was harmed" - it means that the parties in the lawsuit (which notably excluded the social media companies) could not pursue the remedies sought which, for the most part, was an injunction against future government actions.
Beyond that, if no one was harmed by what Biden did as you assert, then you must also conclude that no one will be harmed by what Carr (and Trump) are doing. So no harm no foul (according to you) and you should stop any and all complaints right now. Because the same standing issues apply.
Beyond that, you are absolutely gas lighting to say that Biden people never "did anything" that was censorious or targeted to silence media. The Murthy v. Missouri case record documents in detail what they did to censor and pressure social media and others - the lack of standing changes none of the evidence in that regard.
The Twitter Files extensively documented what was done by the Biden admin beyond any doubt. Mark Zuckerberg and others have testified as to what happened. Among other things, people at the FBI and White House were calling social media companies and demanding that content be removed, all under the specter of regulatory consequences. People were literally de-platformed (i.e., kicked of twitter, youtube and facebook) at the request of Biden admin ghouls.
Biden also tried to implement a "Disinformation Governance Board" which explicitly was intended to censor and "monitor" (i.e., pressure) social media and other forms of speech. Notably, no one on the left thought that was "fascist." And did you forget the hunter laptop where the FBI and Biden admin/campaign pressured Twitter and other social media to suppress the story?
