dajo9 said:
Even the Governor of Utah said he was "one of ours"
going4roses said:
Why is the right still so mad ? trump won and they are still seething mad at everyone and everything ?
What is the problem?
The national media being more upset at Jimmy Kimmel losing his show than they are Charlie Kirk losing his life is kind of proving the point.
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) September 18, 2025
wifeisafurd said:bearister said:
If they dust that Trump's finger prints will be all over it. His trademark extortion scheme that he has been pulling all over town.
Wait, dumb Trump did this. He made Kimmel say this and the affiliates react?
Oh the irony. Can we have some more memes please.
concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:Cal88 said:
The other late night guys aren't funny either, but Kimmel gives some sleazy vibes. One of his closest friends was part of Epstein's inner circle.
Tired format, sluggish ratings, they were probably just looking for an excuse to dump him.
The problem is all those ABC affinities said they wouldn't play his show, which forced ABC hands. And they won't reinstate Kimmel until the affiliates change their mind. Once the affiliates get past that, and Kimmel is reinstated, Kimmel likely gets a rating bump that is worthless for attracting the advertisers he will lose for such a high profile statement.
And then there is that they need FCC approvals for stuff, and the FCC is pissed, but they will get over that in time.
There is a long term issue of late night viability, and even Kimmel was saying Late Night TV in its current format is doomed.
Some interesting hypocrisy at play here, after Trump's denial of the 2020 election results when governmental authorities, including GOP local government officials saying the election results were valid.
To my knowledge, the FCC didn't take or threaten action against those on TV who perpetuated Trump's vision of that election. But libs were furious about anyone who perpetrated Trump's 2020 election denial, which they said were obviously fraudulent. Now we have the Governor of Utah, the FBI, the Utah police, and anyone else that has involved in the investigation saying that accused acted because of Kirk's views on hatred of certain people and that he lead a "very, very online, Internet-focused life, heavily steeped in gaming and left leaning subcultures." (Apparently there are plenty of dark right places on the Internet for "MAGA types" and he wasn't there). Now who isn't believing what the government is saying?
Then there in the charging order filed by the Utah DOJ that sets out the accused own words to his trans lover and in the internet world. He admits the killing and that he was motivated by Kirk's hatred. Kirk's anti-trans rhetoric would suggest a high-profile acts of violence tied to a single personal grievance from a man in love with a trans person. The charging order suggests Robinson shot a Kirk based on more than just that just that one issue.
And importantly, no where has there been any evidence to suggest that the accused was motived by some sort of MAGA supporting vision or in anyway supported MAGA. What Kimmel is said is baseless and looks a whole lot like what Donald Trump supports did in 2020. The irony is delicious, and I expect some biting commentary from Anarchistbear.
1. I bet the abc affiliates you refer to in your opening were rounded up by Trump affiliates. It took a while and once they had a large enough number, they went to ABC. It was a strategic hit job that had nothing to do with what Kimmel said. Kimmel says worse about Trump with regularity.
2. Kimmel did not say Tyler Robinson was a rightie. He said MAGA is trying to do whatever it can to make sure everyone knows he wasn't a rightie. There's a difference, and the point has some distinction.
3. You think Kimmel will be back on ABC? I don't.
4. I don't think it's equal to compare kimmel's comments to what Trump said about election fraud. Or what FoxNews/Newsmax/etc said about rigged elections and election fraud and who actually won.
They are different parties professionally and different subject matter of vastly differing import.
sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:cal83dls79 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:concordtom said:
Hitler got started this way.
….and the Republicans has been raging about Counter Culture for years, and now they are …. Oh, this is sickening. I hope the nation rages!— Sinclair, Inc. (@WeAreSinclair) September 18, 2025
UPDATE: The largest ABC affiliate has called on Jimmy Kimmel to issue a direct apology to Charlie Kirk's family and also make a "meaningful personal donation" to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA!
lol. What. A joke. Extortion. It's Hee Haw for everyone I suppose. Hope you like banjosThis guy will now decide which jokes are appropriate. pic.twitter.com/L5HMO9xghi
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 18, 2025
Tell me, who was president when Roseanne got fired?
Obama's buddy
Article dated May 29, 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/roseanne-barr-offensive-tweets.html
Who was president in 2018?
Bob Iger
Apology accepted.
One wasn't offered.
Okay, so let's recap: "the administration" did not actually get Roseanne fired, because the administration at the time was Trump's and they wouldn't have done it. When you refer to "the president" you are referring to the CEO of Disney at the time, Bob Iger. So Disney made a business decision in that case without pressure from the existing government, correct?
So this is in fact totally different from the current situation when the existing government clearly did exert pressure to have Kimmel taken off the air, right?
yeah...why would Bob Iger defend Valerie Jarret?
When did he do that? Roseanne got canceled because of public criticism over her remarks about Jarrett being racist. You can disagree with that criticism, but it wasn't direct pressure from the government as it was for Kimmel.
Remember when you and your wife called Bob Iger to have me fired? https://t.co/w5BcJ1bsLC
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025
Because they aren’t the same. I wasn’t fired for lying I was fired for telling the truth about the Iran deal and slandered into oblivion. This will still be worse for our side than theirs. Kimmel will get an entire PR tour to clear his name with the backing of all media. https://t.co/oiIInDLJGA
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025
dajo9 said:
Roseanne Barr is proof that there is nothing that side can do to lose credibility with their tribe
So is Roseanne
— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) September 18, 2025
Do cartoonists count? https://t.co/TI9AZ6Tt0b
concordtom said:
Educate me.
bearister said:wifeisafurd said:bearister said:
If they dust that Trump's finger prints will be all over it. His trademark extortion scheme that he has been pulling all over town.
Wait, dumb Trump did this. He made Kimmel say this and the affiliates react?
Oh the irony. Can we have some more memes please.
Off course I wasn't suggesting Trump put Kimmel up to insulting him*so he could topple him over it. I suppose you needed to suggest I did so that you could launch your typically arrogant insult….but yes, I do believe the strong possibility exists that it was Trump's idea to have Sinclair extort a large "personal donation" from Kimmel to Kirk's family and organization in exchange for going back on air. Extortion is Trump's MO:
Columbia University: After freezing $400 million in research funding, the Trump administration struck a deal with Columbia in July 2025. Columbia agreed to pay a fine of over $200 million and make policy changes that included more government oversight.
Brown University: Also in July 2025, Brown agreed to pay $50 million to workforce development programs in Rhode Island to unfreeze its federal funding.
Harvard University: In August 2025, the White House threatened to seize research patents from Harvard, which were worth hundreds of millions of dollars. A potential settlement involving a $500 million payment was being negotiated.
UCLA: Citing the Brown and Columbia settlements, Governor Gavin Newsom of California and other state officials accused the Trump administration of "extortion" over a reported demand for $1 billion from the University of California system.
Tech company deal: In 2025, the Trump administration was reported to have given licenses for Nvidia and AMD to sell AI chips in China, but only after the companies agreed to give the federal government a 15% cut of the sales
Law firms:
Trump has extorted hundreds of millions of dollars from law firms if they do not want to be targeted by his retaliatory executive orders:
Nine law firms pledged a total of nearly $1 billion in pro bono legal services to avoid sanctions. Notable examples include:
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison: Pledged $40 million in legal work.
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom: Committed $100 million in legal work.
A&O Shearman: Committed $125 million in legal services.
You asked me to post a meme? Here, this one's for you:
*The thing that actually made Trump throw a clot was that Kimmel's bit mocked Trump's lack of empathy (Kirk said empathy is a new age invention, not a real thing) as demonstrated by Trump's awkward segue from talking about Kirk to his new ballroom.
wifeisafurd said:
Other than your personal biases do you have anything to prove pressure was put on the ABC affiliates by the Trump administration (as opposed to outraged viewers), and what exactly that pressure was?
The president said that the decision “will be up to Brendan Carr,” the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission.https://t.co/hSHThXpPTC
— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) September 18, 2025
wifeisafurd said:concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:Cal88 said:
The other late night guys aren't funny either, but Kimmel gives some sleazy vibes. One of his closest friends was part of Epstein's inner circle.
Tired format, sluggish ratings, they were probably just looking for an excuse to dump him.
The problem is all those ABC affinities said they wouldn't play his show, which forced ABC hands. And they won't reinstate Kimmel until the affiliates change their mind. Once the affiliates get past that, and Kimmel is reinstated, Kimmel likely gets a rating bump that is worthless for attracting the advertisers he will lose for such a high profile statement.
And then there is that they need FCC approvals for stuff, and the FCC is pissed, but they will get over that in time.
There is a long term issue of late night viability, and even Kimmel was saying Late Night TV in its current format is doomed.
Some interesting hypocrisy at play here, after Trump's denial of the 2020 election results when governmental authorities, including GOP local government officials saying the election results were valid.
To my knowledge, the FCC didn't take or threaten action against those on TV who perpetuated Trump's vision of that election. But libs were furious about anyone who perpetrated Trump's 2020 election denial, which they said were obviously fraudulent. Now we have the Governor of Utah, the FBI, the Utah police, and anyone else that has involved in the investigation saying that accused acted because of Kirk's views on hatred of certain people and that he lead a "very, very online, Internet-focused life, heavily steeped in gaming and left leaning subcultures." (Apparently there are plenty of dark right places on the Internet for "MAGA types" and he wasn't there). Now who isn't believing what the government is saying?
Then there in the charging order filed by the Utah DOJ that sets out the accused own words to his trans lover and in the internet world. He admits the killing and that he was motivated by Kirk's hatred. Kirk's anti-trans rhetoric would suggest a high-profile acts of violence tied to a single personal grievance from a man in love with a trans person. The charging order suggests Robinson shot a Kirk based on more than just that just that one issue.
And importantly, no where has there been any evidence to suggest that the accused was motived by some sort of MAGA supporting vision or in anyway supported MAGA. What Kimmel is said is baseless and looks a whole lot like what Donald Trump supports did in 2020. The irony is delicious, and I expect some biting commentary from Anarchistbear.
1. I bet the abc affiliates you refer to in your opening were rounded up by Trump affiliates. It took a while and once they had a large enough number, they went to ABC. It was a strategic hit job that had nothing to do with what Kimmel said. Kimmel says worse about Trump with regularity.
2. Kimmel did not say Tyler Robinson was a rightie. He said MAGA is trying to do whatever it can to make sure everyone knows he wasn't a rightie. There's a difference, and the point has some distinction.
3. You think Kimmel will be back on ABC? I don't.
4. I don't think it's equal to compare kimmel's comments to what Trump said about election fraud. Or what FoxNews/Newsmax/etc said about rigged elections and election fraud and who actually won.
They are different parties professionally and different subject matter of vastly differing import.
1. TDS strikes again, Trump is more powerful than God and everywhere taking over ABC and its affiliates. Tom you say a lot sheet without any factual support. Number 1 just another example. Just go back to some of the conspiratorially things you said about who killed Kirk in another thread, that make you look like loony tunes. Got any other conspiracies you can share with us?
sycasey said:wifeisafurd said:Cal88 said:
The other late night guys aren't funny either, but Kimmel gives some sleazy vibes. One of his closest friends was part of Epstein's inner circle.
Tired format, sluggish ratings, they were probably just looking for an excuse to dump him.
The problem is all those ABC affinities said they wouldn't play his show, which forced ABC hands.
Got to go back one step there: the affiliates said that after getting pressure to say that from the FCC and the Trump Administration. That's where there is a potential 1st Amendment violation.
wifeisafurd said:sycasey said:wifeisafurd said:Cal88 said:
The other late night guys aren't funny either, but Kimmel gives some sleazy vibes. One of his closest friends was part of Epstein's inner circle.
Tired format, sluggish ratings, they were probably just looking for an excuse to dump him.
The problem is all those ABC affinities said they wouldn't play his show, which forced ABC hands.
Got to go back one step there: the affiliates said that after getting pressure to say that from the FCC and the Trump Administration. That's where there is a potential 1st Amendment violation.
Where did the affiliates say that? Do you have a link to them saying that?
FCC Chairman Brendan Carr: "There's actions we can take on licensed broadcasters. It's long past the time that...Comcast and Disney say 'We're not gonna run Kimmel anymore...because we licensed broadcasters are running the possibly of fines or licensed revocation from the FCC.'" pic.twitter.com/L2GK7w1p9J
— The Bulwark (@BulwarkOnline) September 17, 2025
wifeisafurd said:
2. MAGA doesn't need to say it. All the investigative government authorities are saying it as does the media. Having you even read the guys internet postings that are out there in the media. For him to infer that Robinson was a MAGA head was stupid.
wifeisafurd said:
3. Yea, I think he is back. ABC and its affiliates will wait until this blows over. They don't want to invest more money in another Late Night host. What he said was stupid in view of the current hyper-sensitive environment, but it really wasn't that bad. It is pretty obvious to anyone not name Dajo what the shooter's motive were and I'm sure Trump will take advantage of that, so from that perspective Kimmel had a point - albeit a poorly stated one. And in terms of number 4, liberal hypocrisy will become a recurring theme.
PAC-10-BEAR said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:cal83dls79 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:concordtom said:
Hitler got started this way.
….and the Republicans has been raging about Counter Culture for years, and now they are …. Oh, this is sickening. I hope the nation rages!— Sinclair, Inc. (@WeAreSinclair) September 18, 2025
UPDATE: The largest ABC affiliate has called on Jimmy Kimmel to issue a direct apology to Charlie Kirk's family and also make a "meaningful personal donation" to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA!
lol. What. A joke. Extortion. It's Hee Haw for everyone I suppose. Hope you like banjosThis guy will now decide which jokes are appropriate. pic.twitter.com/L5HMO9xghi
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 18, 2025
Tell me, who was president when Roseanne got fired?
Obama's buddy
Article dated May 29, 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/roseanne-barr-offensive-tweets.html
Who was president in 2018?
Bob Iger
Apology accepted.
One wasn't offered.
Okay, so let's recap: "the administration" did not actually get Roseanne fired, because the administration at the time was Trump's and they wouldn't have done it. When you refer to "the president" you are referring to the CEO of Disney at the time, Bob Iger. So Disney made a business decision in that case without pressure from the existing government, correct?
So this is in fact totally different from the current situation when the existing government clearly did exert pressure to have Kimmel taken off the air, right?
yeah...why would Bob Iger defend Valerie Jarret?
When did he do that? Roseanne got canceled because of public criticism over her remarks about Jarrett being racist. You can disagree with that criticism, but it wasn't direct pressure from the government as it was for Kimmel.Remember when you and your wife called Bob Iger to have me fired? https://t.co/w5BcJ1bsLC
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025
wifeisafurd said:
4. Not my problem that you can't see the hypocrisy.
concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:Cal88 said:
The other late night guys aren't funny either, but Kimmel gives some sleazy vibes. One of his closest friends was part of Epstein's inner circle.
Tired format, sluggish ratings, they were probably just looking for an excuse to dump him.
The problem is all those ABC affinities said they wouldn't play his show, which forced ABC hands. And they won't reinstate Kimmel until the affiliates change their mind. Once the affiliates get past that, and Kimmel is reinstated, Kimmel likely gets a rating bump that is worthless for attracting the advertisers he will lose for such a high profile statement.
And then there is that they need FCC approvals for stuff, and the FCC is pissed, but they will get over that in time.
There is a long term issue of late night viability, and even Kimmel was saying Late Night TV in its current format is doomed.
Some interesting hypocrisy at play here, after Trump's denial of the 2020 election results when governmental authorities, including GOP local government officials saying the election results were valid.
To my knowledge, the FCC didn't take or threaten action against those on TV who perpetuated Trump's vision of that election. But libs were furious about anyone who perpetrated Trump's 2020 election denial, which they said were obviously fraudulent. Now we have the Governor of Utah, the FBI, the Utah police, and anyone else that has involved in the investigation saying that accused acted because of Kirk's views on hatred of certain people and that he lead a "very, very online, Internet-focused life, heavily steeped in gaming and left leaning subcultures." (Apparently there are plenty of dark right places on the Internet for "MAGA types" and he wasn't there). Now who isn't believing what the government is saying?
Then there in the charging order filed by the Utah DOJ that sets out the accused own words to his trans lover and in the internet world. He admits the killing and that he was motivated by Kirk's hatred. Kirk's anti-trans rhetoric would suggest a high-profile acts of violence tied to a single personal grievance from a man in love with a trans person. The charging order suggests Robinson shot a Kirk based on more than just that just that one issue.
And importantly, no where has there been any evidence to suggest that the accused was motived by some sort of MAGA supporting vision or in anyway supported MAGA. What Kimmel is said is baseless and looks a whole lot like what Donald Trump supports did in 2020. The irony is delicious, and I expect some biting commentary from Anarchistbear.
1. I bet the abc affiliates you refer to in your opening were rounded up by Trump affiliates. It took a while and once they had a large enough number, they went to ABC. It was a strategic hit job that had nothing to do with what Kimmel said. Kimmel says worse about Trump with regularity.
2. Kimmel did not say Tyler Robinson was a rightie. He said MAGA is trying to do whatever it can to make sure everyone knows he wasn't a rightie. There's a difference, and the point has some distinction.
3. You think Kimmel will be back on ABC? I don't.
4. I don't think it's equal to compare kimmel's comments to what Trump said about election fraud. Or what FoxNews/Newsmax/etc said about rigged elections and election fraud and who actually won.
They are different parties professionally and different subject matter of vastly differing import.
1. TDS strikes again, Trump is more powerful than God and everywhere taking over ABC and its affiliates. Tom you say a lot sheet without any factual support. Number 1 just another example. Just go back to some of the conspiratorially things you said about who killed Kirk in another thread, that make you look like loony tunes. Got any other conspiracies you can share with us?
1A.
Don't take my word for it, just listen to Trump. He said it, you dope! He was going after Kimmel, and now he's gone. You think that's a coincidence? About as much of a coincidence as when you overeat it causes you to get fat.
1B.
I made conspiratorial claims about who killed Kirk?
Oh, please, share them with me.
bearister said:
"TDS strikes again, Trump is more powerful than God ….."
No, but powerful enough. A sampling:
Trump Administration actions taken to consolidate executive power, erode institutional independence, and pursue political retribution:
Targeting the federal workforce
Mass firing of Inspectors General
Co-opting independent agencies
Attacking law firms and judges
Claiming expansive presidential power
Freezing university funding
Investigating and intimidating universities
Targeting protestors and visa holders
Attempting to end birthright citizenship
Suppressing climate change science
Censoring exhibits at the Smithsonian
Firing the Director of the Bureau of Labor Statistics
Dismissing military and health officials
Deploying National Guard Units into states to unlawfully conduct law enforcement activities
PAC-10-BEAR said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:sycasey said:cal83dls79 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:concordtom said:
Hitler got started this way.
….and the Republicans has been raging about Counter Culture for years, and now they are …. Oh, this is sickening. I hope the nation rages!— Sinclair, Inc. (@WeAreSinclair) September 18, 2025
UPDATE: The largest ABC affiliate has called on Jimmy Kimmel to issue a direct apology to Charlie Kirk's family and also make a "meaningful personal donation" to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA!
lol. What. A joke. Extortion. It's Hee Haw for everyone I suppose. Hope you like banjosThis guy will now decide which jokes are appropriate. pic.twitter.com/L5HMO9xghi
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 18, 2025
Tell me, who was president when Roseanne got fired?
Obama's buddy
Article dated May 29, 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/roseanne-barr-offensive-tweets.html
Who was president in 2018?
Bob Iger
Apology accepted.
One wasn't offered.
Okay, so let's recap: "the administration" did not actually get Roseanne fired, because the administration at the time was Trump's and they wouldn't have done it. When you refer to "the president" you are referring to the CEO of Disney at the time, Bob Iger. So Disney made a business decision in that case without pressure from the existing government, correct?
So this is in fact totally different from the current situation when the existing government clearly did exert pressure to have Kimmel taken off the air, right?
yeah...why would Bob Iger defend Valerie Jarret?
When did he do that? Roseanne got canceled because of public criticism over her remarks about Jarrett being racist. You can disagree with that criticism, but it wasn't direct pressure from the government as it was for Kimmel.Remember when you and your wife called Bob Iger to have me fired? https://t.co/w5BcJ1bsLC
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025Because they aren’t the same. I wasn’t fired for lying I was fired for telling the truth about the Iran deal and slandered into oblivion. This will still be worse for our side than theirs. Kimmel will get an entire PR tour to clear his name with the backing of all media. https://t.co/oiIInDLJGA
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Barrack Obama hasn't been this upset since CBS decided to take Stephen Colbert off the air.
concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:
3. Yea, I think he is back. ABC and its affiliates will wait until this blows over. They don't want to invest more money in another Late Night host. What he said was stupid in view of the current hyper-sensitive environment, but it really wasn't that bad. It is pretty obvious to anyone not name Dajo what the shooter's motive were and I'm sure Trump will take advantage of that, so from that perspective Kimmel had a point - albeit a poorly stated one. And in terms of number 4, liberal hypocrisy will become a recurring theme.
3A.
Okay, we can remember this.
How about 6 months I'll wait until I get to start calling you dumb. You can continue to call me dumb starting immediately.
3B. Glad you agree that what he said wasn't that bad.
3C. I do laugh at you. "I didn't vote for him," you say. Okay, sure, that's believable. I mean what kind of idiot would?
But then you've carried on here for such a long time in ripping "liberals", pulling up TDS insults, and defending MAGA talking points.
I mean, you blame those of us who hate Trump for getting elected, yet you are frequently shown here defending that faction and insulting its opposition. And you then accuse hypocrisy.
It's humorous! You are humorous, typical rich, snobbish, MAGA material.
But then, hey, we can't all live in Dana Point and have a second home in Henderson. Do you file your taxes from there, too? You're skilled in accounting ways - smart enough to figure that out. And where's your third house, anyways?
concordtom said:
At what point in the Trump regime will you be this upset?
Truly. Please ask yourself.
A contact who works at Disney tells me they only got a few calls about cancelling Disney+ / Hulu over Jimmy Kimmel but the vast majority of their customers don’t really seem to care
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) September 18, 2025
concordtom said:
Hitler got started this way.
Left is acting like Jimmy Kimmel got murdered from a rooftop.
— 0HOUR (@0HOUR1__) September 18, 2025
PAC-10-BEAR said:concordtom said:
Educate me.
One side is worried about getting fired for lying.
The other side is worried about getting fired upon for telling the truth?
concordtom said:wifeisafurd said:
2. MAGA doesn't need to say it. All the investigative government authorities are saying it as does the media. Having you even read the guys internet postings that are out there in the media. For him to infer that Robinson was a MAGA head was stupid.
2.
You need to do a better job at reading literacy of what I said. And of what Kimmel did and didn't say. You answered as if he and I said something we did not. But I don't care to parse words like an English mark with you.
No I haven't read government documents. But I don't need to to understand Kimmel's words.
concordtom said:
Provide for me examples of conservative voices being cancelled, censored, fired, and ridiculed.
I want to understand the grievances y'all carry.
— Gina Carano 🕯 (@ginacarano) September 18, 2025
