Prop 50

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sycasey
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LudwigsFountain said:

After reading some of the replies here and thinking about it, here is my dream, but unattainable, solution to gerrymandering.

Increase the number of representatives. Hasn't changed for, what, a hundred years? Let's say 1,000. The ratio of voters to reps would still be much higher than when then number was increased to the present level. Hopefully this would diminish the power of the reps on the fringe of each party.

National law to require independent commissions to draw districts. Only allowed each census if number of state reps changes.

Have fewer districts and elect multiple reps in each district, based on the overall percentage of each party's vote within the district. Using California as an example, there would be about 100 reps. Have 20 districts and elect 5 from each district. Democrats get 60%, their candidates with the three highest votes are elected. Some states would have one district.

I have to think this would decrease the number of 'safe' seats and make congress more responsive to the voters.

Could it happen? Never

Yes, this is pretty much exactly what should happen. It won't happen, but it should.

Senate needs an overhaul too.
SBGold
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

SBGold said:

HKBear97! said:

chazzed said:

It's more than amusing to see all the indignation by posters who defend the GOP at every turn: yogi, goggles, tequila, etc. How surreal is it that they are trying to make arguments that the Democratic party--and not the party of McConnell and Trump--is the norm-breaker we should be worrying about?

What scares the crap out of me is that Democrats unabashedly supported a politician that openly called for violence against his opponent and their family in Jay Jones in Virginia. There is no question that Democrats are openly supporting violence. Terrifying.

That's wild, Cheeto blows up fishing boats near Venezuela when the admin does not know who the people are and you are worried about some text that Jones took accountability for.


And there was J6 for the MAGAts that sought to string and quarter Pence. Remember that.

Wake up.

UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever



They aren't fishing boats but thanks for trying to bring "unity over division" with your lies.

We don't actually know what they are, that's the problem.


The poster I responded to said they are fishing boats. Are you guys the Borg?

Yeah, you are wrong again. Congrats on keeping up that streak

Posting wrongly about something and then being discredited does show that yes, you actually lied

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pentagon-concedes-trump-admin-doesnt-know-s-killed-boat-strikes-rcna241170

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
oski003
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SBGold said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

SBGold said:

HKBear97! said:

chazzed said:

It's more than amusing to see all the indignation by posters who defend the GOP at every turn: yogi, goggles, tequila, etc. How surreal is it that they are trying to make arguments that the Democratic party--and not the party of McConnell and Trump--is the norm-breaker we should be worrying about?

What scares the crap out of me is that Democrats unabashedly supported a politician that openly called for violence against his opponent and their family in Jay Jones in Virginia. There is no question that Democrats are openly supporting violence. Terrifying.

That's wild, Cheeto blows up fishing boats near Venezuela when the admin does not know who the people are and you are worried about some text that Jones took accountability for.


And there was J6 for the MAGAts that sought to string and quarter Pence. Remember that.

Wake up.

UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever



They aren't fishing boats but thanks for trying to bring "unity over division" with your lies.

We don't actually know what they are, that's the problem.


The poster I responded to said they are fishing boats. Are you guys the Borg?

Yeah, you are wrong again. Congrats on keeping up that streak

Posting wrongly about something and then being discredited does show that yes, you actually lied

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pentagon-concedes-trump-admin-doesnt-know-s-killed-boat-strikes-rcna241170

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


They may be capable of being used as fishing boats, but they aren't "fishing boats," even if the administration can't name the folks on board. Thanks.
movielover
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Fishing license, permits?
Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:

Fishing license, permits?
That's kind of hard to investigate and verify when you shoot first and send all the evidence to Davy Jones' Locker.
PAC-10-BEAR
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DiabloWags
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FOR THE KIDS SITTING WAAAAAAAAAAAAY IN THE BAAAAAAAAACK . . .

Why California takes weeks to count votes | AP News
Cults don't end well. They really don't.
SBGold
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:

Fishing license, permits?

That's kind of hard to investigate and verify when you shoot first and send all the evidence to Davy Jones' Locker.

Their main argument is that they are not fishing boats, lol

Incredibly obtuse

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
sycasey
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PAC-10-BEAR said:



It's easy to call the race when it's a blowout.
oski003
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

movielover said:

Fishing license, permits?
That's kind of hard to investigate and verify when you shoot first and send all the evidence to Davy Jones' Locker.


And SBGold, without evidence, says they are merely fishing boats. She must be omniscient!
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

FOR THE KIDS SITTING WAAAAAAAAAAAAY IN THE BAAAAAAAAACK . . .

Why California takes weeks to count votes | AP News



FOR THE KIDS SITTING WAAAAAAAAAAAAY IN THE BAAAAAAAAACK, the article states that California rules are set up to take a really, really, really long time to cast votes because they allegedly prioritize accessibility over all sense of expediency.
movielover
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More time to rig and have union members canvass for needed votes.
Aunburdened
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Was it worth it, Dumbocrats?



PAC-10-BEAR
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tequila4kapp
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Technically they absolutely can gerrymander but they have to do it consistent with their own rules.
Aunburdened
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tequila4kapp said:

Technically they absolutely can gerrymander but they have to do it consistent with their own rules.

Every state should have an independent commission not nominated by politicians to handle this stuff, just like the one California used to have before Democrats decided to nuke a good democratic institution so they could get in a redistricting war with Republicans which they are now losing in spectacular fashion.



BearlySane88
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Aunburdened said:

tequila4kapp said:

Technically they absolutely can gerrymander but they have to do it consistent with their own rules.

Every state should have an independent commission not nominated by politicians to handle this stuff, just like the one California used to have before Democrats decided to nuke a good democratic institution so they could get in a redistricting war with Republicans which they are now losing in spectacular fashion.






Fully agree. I'm not a fan of either party doing this and the independent commissions are the most fair and reasonable way to handle redistricting. It is fun to watch the dems fail miserably though
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PAC-10-BEAR
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tequila4kapp said:

Technically they absolutely can gerrymander but they have to do it consistent with their own rules.

And federal laws which ban racial gerrymandering.
 
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