Iran. Oh, the irony...

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In reply to sycasey • 7:01p, 4/17/26
sycasey said:
Well Lord knows that if Donald Trump said he did a great job and got everything he wanted, it must be true.


The KOOL AID still runs strong my friend.
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7:51p, 4/17/26
It is one thing to get an agreement in the Middle East, it is quite another to get it to hold for years. I have yet to see it happen. And I doubt it will hold, too many variables, not to mention the pompous ass and administration taking credit for basically something that was already done.

F tRump & Company
Start Slowly and taper off
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In reply to sonofabear51 • 7:53p, 4/17/26
sonofabear51 said:
It is one thing to get an agreement in the Middle East, it is quite another to get it to hold for years. I have yet to see it happen. And I doubt it will hold, too many variables, not to mention the pompous ass and administration taking credit for basically something that was already done.

F tRump & Company


"Trump will never get a deal… oh wait he did"

*moves on to next talking point

"The deal will never hold"
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11:11p, 4/17/26
Is there actually a deal yet? Has Iran's government confirmed this?
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12:57a, 4/18/26

Nuclear dust, nuclear signature.
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5:31a, 4/18/26
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:00a, 4/18/26
dajo9 said:
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37


It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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In reply to oski003 • 7:34a, 4/18/26
oski003 said:
dajo9 said:
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37


It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


Is this what "Gunther Eagleman", "Amuse" or other astroturfed Trump cult slop told you?

Because that doesn't jibe with reality:




There are NO USN ships in that picture above, they would be too vulnerable to drone, missile and torpedo attacks. The Trump Blockade of the Blockade is further out in the Gulf of Oman.

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In reply to Cal88 • 8:02a, 4/18/26
Cal88 said:
oski003 said:
dajo9 said:
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37


It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


Is this what "Gunther Eagleman", "Amuse" or other astroturfed Trump cult slop told you?

Because that doesn't jibe with reality:




There are NO USN ships in that picture above, they would be too vulnerable to drone, missile and torpedo attacks. The Trump Blockade of the Blockade is further out in the Gulf of Oman.



It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Iran is keeping the Strait closed because we are still blockading them. Nothing in your slop post refutes what I posted above.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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8:08a, 4/18/26
Events of the last 24 hours prove again that Trump's words are meaningless
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In reply to oski003 • 8:34a, 4/18/26
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:
oski003 said:
dajo9 said:
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37


It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


Is this what "Gunther Eagleman", "Amuse" or other astroturfed Trump cult slop told you?

Because that doesn't jibe with reality:




There are NO USN ships in that picture above, they would be too vulnerable to drone, missile and torpedo attacks. The Trump Blockade of the Blockade is further out in the Gulf of Oman.



It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.


There are no USN ships in the Strait or the Persian Gulf, and we're not bombing Iranian ports.

So how exactly are we "blockading Iranian ports"?
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:51a, 4/18/26
Cal88 said:
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:
oski003 said:
dajo9 said:
Good morning

The Straight of Hormuz is closed. The Art of the Deal. Still a mystery why anyone would care what Donald Trump says.

https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37


It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


Is this what "Gunther Eagleman", "Amuse" or other astroturfed Trump cult slop told you?

Because that doesn't jibe with reality:




There are NO USN ships in that picture above, they would be too vulnerable to drone, missile and torpedo attacks. The Trump Blockade of the Blockade is further out in the Gulf of Oman.



It is now not open because we are still blockading Iranian ports. We are blockading Iranian ports because, despite what liberal outlets are saying, it is working to pressure Iran to accept a reasonable deal.


There are no USN ships in the Strait or the Persian Gulf, and we're not bombing Iranian ports.

So how exactly are we "blockading Iranian ports"?


This is still in effect.

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4457255/us-to-blockade-ships-entering-or-exiting-iranian-ports/

Thank you for your attention to this matter. Hopefully, it sinks in better this time around.
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9:20a, 4/18/26
Straits are only open during stock market hours
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In reply to dajo9 • 9:31a, 4/18/26
dajo9 said:
Events of the last 24 hours prove again that Trump's words are meaningless


It also proves once again how gullible his followers are.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:50a, 4/18/26
sycasey said:
Is there actually a deal yet? Has Iran's government confirmed this?

So I guess the answer is no.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:51a, 4/18/26
BearlySane88 said:
sonofabear51 said:
It is one thing to get an agreement in the Middle East, it is quite another to get it to hold for years. I have yet to see it happen. And I doubt it will hold, too many variables, not to mention the pompous ass and administration taking credit for basically something that was already done.

F tRump & Company


"Trump will never get a deal… oh wait he did"

*moves on to next talking point

"The deal will never hold"


This sure didn't age well.
Not even 12 hours.
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10:27a, 4/18/26


Can't help that the Iranians are disagreeing with each other.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:04a, 4/18/26
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
sonofabear51 said:
It is one thing to get an agreement in the Middle East, it is quite another to get it to hold for years. I have yet to see it happen. And I doubt it will hold, too many variables, not to mention the pompous ass and administration taking credit for basically something that was already done.

F tRump & Company


"Trump will never get a deal… oh wait he did"

*moves on to next talking point

"The deal will never hold"


This sure didn't age well.
Not even 12 hours


The UK has had a long string of mediocre PMs lately, when Liz Truss was nominated, a tabloid bet that a head of lettuce would last longer than Truss as a PM:



The lettuce did outlast her.

I would propose a similar challenge for Trump's grand decrees on the Iran war, but would use instead something a lot more perishable, like raw fish or a sushi tray. The sushi tray will have outlasted all of Trump's pump and dump weekend grandstandings...
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 4:45p, 4/18/26
Anarchistbear said:
Straits are only open during stock market hours


I nominate for OT post of the year lol
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5:42p, 4/19/26
I'd say the odds of this happening are fairly good.

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In reply to chazzed • 6:54p, 4/19/26
chazzed said:
I'd say the odds of this happening are fairly good.


People and the markets believed Trump and fell for it because the Iranians would willingly trade their enriched uranium for a permanent peace with their sanctions lifted and Hormuz toll scheme to rebuild their infrastructure. So a settlement is not something that would be out of the ordinary.

The main problem is that Israel doesn't want that, they want to annex southern Lebanon and see Iran turned into a failed state. Trump can't rein Israel in, whether because his donors don't want, or he is compromised.
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7:41p, 4/19/26
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/19/united-arab-emirates-iran-civilian-infrastructure-00880064

UAE official: More than 90% of Iran's targets were civilian infrastructure

"The United Arab Emirates' minister of state said Sunday the country had been hit with over 2,800 missiles and drones in the first 40 days of the U.S. and Israel's war with Iran, adding that more than 90% of the targets were civilian infrastructure."

"We used our oil wealth to build an economic powerhouse. They used their wealth for nuclear programs that are nefarious, for missiles, drones, proxies, etc."
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In reply to oski003 • 8:02p, 4/19/26
oski003 said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/19/united-arab-emirates-iran-civilian-infrastructure-00880064

UAE official: More than 90% of Iran's targets were civilian infrastructure

"The United Arab Emirates' minister of state said Sunday the country had been hit with over 2,800 missiles and drones in the first 40 days of the U.S. and Israel's war with Iran, adding that more than 90% of the targets were civilian infrastructure."

"We used our oil wealth to build an economic powerhouse. They used their wealth for nuclear programs that are nefarious, for missiles, drones, proxies, etc."


The UAE has had a very nefarious role in the Sudan and Libyan civil wars, they haven't always put their oil wealth to good use.

AI oversiew
Role in the Sudanese Civil War (2023Present)
The UAE is widely accused of being the primary external backer of the Rapid Support Forces (RSF), led by Hemedti, in their conflict against the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF).

  • Weapons Smuggling: A leaked UN report indicated that weapons were supplied to the RSF via flights from Abu Dhabi to Chad, and subsequently into Darfur.
  • Military Equipment: The RSF has been supplied with advanced weaponry, including Chinese-made drones, howitzers, and armored vehicles (e.g., Panther T6 and Tygra models).
  • Strategic Interests: The UAE's involvement is likely aimed at controlling Sudan's gold tradewith significant amounts of gold smuggled to Dubaiand gaining influence over Red Sea shipping routes, while opposing Islamist influences in the SAF.
  • Atrocities Allegations: The RSF has been accused of genocide and ethnic cleansing in Darfur, with evidence suggesting UAE-supplied weapons enabled these actions.
I would also argue that had Iran not developed its highly effective missile and drone programs, their country would have been overrun and colonized by now, just as it was when the US/UK overthrew their democratically elected president Mossadegh who nationalized their oil resources.

The UAE should follow Qatar's lead and work towards a modus vivendi with Iran instead of pushing for escalation, and cut their involvement in the Sudanese genocide and Libyan civil war.

(On a more trivial side note, watching Manchester City - Arsenal this morning, I wonder what is going to happen with the European clubs the UAE and other GCC countries purchased, perhaps the old order will be restored with these countries pulling the plug on their European vanity purchases. )
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:11a, 4/20/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
cant wait to hear the Pope's comeback zinger!
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