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In reply to bearister • 7:56p, 9/16/26
from "The Sting" of 1973
[ same year we graduated from Cal, married, aand
tonight we're still having dinner together ]
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In reply to smh • 10:06p, 9/16/26
smh said:
from "The Sting" of 1973
[ same year we graduated from Cal, married, and
tonight we're still having dinner together ]

Live long and prosper, smh!
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10:54p, 9/16/26
The weasel words by many of the Democrats in this video are something to behold. They'll criticize the war as long as Trump is President, but once they have the actual power to stop it, that's when you'll see them come up with the necessary convenient Joe Manchin/Joe Liebermann to make sure nothing fundamentally changes.

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9:43a, 9/17/26





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR
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In reply to DiabloWags • 9:47a, 9/17/26
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U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN
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In reply to ChudBear • 9:52a, 9/17/26
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DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN


Thanks for posting 8 of the 47 members.
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In reply to ChudBear • 10:36a, 9/17/26
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DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN

Which of these countries have bombed and triple tapped schools lately?
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:22a, 9/17/26
DiabloWags said:
ChudBear said:
DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN


Thanks for posting 8 of the 47 members.
17%

Membership of the Human Rights Council for the 20th cycle (1 January - 31 December 2026) | OHCHR



17% is a lot if you read other posts here today.

0% of the UN Human Right's Council should be countries that negate basic human rights.
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In reply to ChudBear • 11:45a, 9/17/26
ChudBear said:
DiabloWags said:
ChudBear said:
DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN


Thanks for posting 8 of the 47 members.
17%

Membership of the Human Rights Council for the 20th cycle (1 January - 31 December 2026) | OHCHR



17% is a lot if you read other posts here today.

0% of the UN Human Right's Council should be countries that negate basic human rights.


Yup.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 12:00p, 9/17/26
DiabloWags said:
U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

Utterly pointless image spam deleted.

I don't need the United Nations to tell me that blowing up a school is a war crime. Thanks.
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:02p, 9/17/26
Cal88 said:
ChudBear said:
DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN

Which of these countries have bombed and triple tapped schools lately?

Child please. There is a large difference between accidentally harming civilians and intentionally harming civilians.
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In reply to ChudBear • 12:19p, 9/17/26
You don't "accidentally" triple tap a well-marked school on day 1 of a long, pre-planned bombing campaign.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 1:24p, 9/17/26
Aunburdened said:
The weasel words by many of the Democrats in this video are something to behold. They'll criticize the war as long as Trump is President, but once they have the actual power to stop it, that's when you'll see them come up with the necessary convenient Joe Manchin/Joe Liebermann to make sure nothing fundamentally changes.


Disappointingly, I found this to be somewhat true when I wrote my Representative and Senators at the start of the war. Alex Padilla, before basically saying he was against the war, talked a little bit too much about the supposed threat of an Iran with nukes.
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In reply to Big C • 1:55p, 9/17/26
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.
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In reply to Big C • 3:04p, 9/17/26
Big C said:
Aunburdened said:
The weasel words by many of the Democrats in this video are something to behold. They'll criticize the war as long as Trump is President, but once they have the actual power to stop it, that's when you'll see them come up with the necessary convenient Joe Manchin/Joe Liebermann to make sure nothing fundamentally changes.


Disappointingly, I found this to be somewhat true when I wrote my Representative and Senators at the start of the war. Alex Padilla, before basically saying he was against the war, talked a little bit too much about the supposed threat of an Iran with nukes.

Democrats have been in a defensive crouch on national security for so long, they don't know any other way to be. It will take a while for them to figure out that the public actually wants the anti-war stance.
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:53p, 9/17/26
Cal88 said:
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.

Every country should want to have nuclear weapons because it's the only way of assuring that the United States military doesn't bomb your country.

Whether Iran ever succeeds in having one remains to be seen, but as this war is proving, other than the fact that no country likes being bombed, they can achieve an unconventional victory just by their role in the global oil trade.
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In reply to sycasey • 4:54p, 9/17/26
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Democrats have been in a defensive crouch on national security for so long, they don't know any other way to be. It will take a while for them to figure out that the public actually wants the anti-war stance.

Democrats don't actually care what their voters want, so their national security position isn't going to change.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:05p, 9/17/26
Cal88 said:
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.

I would assume Israel having nukes and blowing up their scientists was enough motivation.
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In reply to DaddyLegend • 6:19p, 9/17/26
DaddyLegend said:
Cal88 said:
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.

I would assume Israel having nukes and blowing up their scientists was enough motivation.


Yep.

They know that Israel would not hesitate to nuke them if they win a conventional war against them.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:30p, 9/17/26
Cal88 said:
DaddyLegend said:
Cal88 said:
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.

I would assume Israel having nukes and blowing up their scientists was enough motivation.

Yep.

They know that Israel would not hesitate to nuke them if they win a conventional war against them.

If Iran nukes Israel, they'll nuke Muslims and Arabs, too. Israel doesn't have the same dilemma.
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In reply to ChudBear • 6:34p, 9/17/26
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DiabloWags said:





U.N. experts cite possible U.S. war crimes in Iran strikes : NPR

China, Cuba, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt, Iraq, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are some of the members of the UN Human Right's council. That tells you all you need to know about the credibility of the UN


The same group found that Iran committed crimes against humanity against their own citizens. Both charges seem credible

"In a report released Monday, the mission concluded that killings by security forces "occurred on a massive scale in all provinces" of Iran, during the Government's "violent crackdown" on mass protests that stretched from last year into this year.

The mission also reported that at least 221 children some as young as two years old were killed and that security forces attacked health care facilities, "beating and arresting wounded protesters and arresting some health care workers, discouraging victims from seeking life-saving care."
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6:41p, 9/17/26
Don't threaten me with a good time, Iran.

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In reply to Cal88 • 6:47p, 9/17/26
Cal88 said:
DaddyLegend said:
Cal88 said:
The irony is that Trump's approach and war is actually pushing Iran to acquire nukes.

I would assume Israel having nukes and blowing up their scientists was enough motivation.


Yep.

They know that Israel would not hesitate to nuke them if they win a conventional war against them.


"Nukes? We ain't got no nukes! We don't need no nukes! I don't have to show you any stinking nukes!"
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In reply to bearister • 6:57p, 9/17/26
bearister said:

grabbed from classic "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" fame, released ~year i was born/hatched, winning several oscars, thanks for the reminder bearister..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040897/quotes/?item=qt0356583&ref_=ext_shr_lnk
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040897/awards/?ref_=tt_ov_at_op_awd
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In reply to sycasey • 7:07p, 9/17/26
sycasey said:
Don't threaten me with a good time, Iran.


That's quite an FU response. I support this.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 7:28p, 9/17/26
As do I. Love it.
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8:49p, 9/17/26

I can't speak for Israel, but when we finally get Trump out of there, 48 has a great opportunity to go to other countries -- friend or foe -- and say, look, that was all Trump. Let's restart with a clean slate.
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10:10p, 9/17/26
Are other countries finally stepping up?

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In reply to Big C • 12:18a, 9/18/26
Big C said:

I can't speak for Israel, but when we finally get Trump out of there, 48 has a great opportunity to go to other countries -- friend or foe -- and say, look, that was all Trump. Let's restart with a clean slate.

That sounds wonderful. The only problem is Iran launched missiles at all their neighbors like they didn't give two hoots.
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In reply to sonofabear51 • 12:28a, 9/18/26
sonofabear51 said:
As do I. Love it.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Ayatollah is dead, and his son has one leg.
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