Iran. Oh, the irony...

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dajo9
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The British have a way with words. You only need to listen to the first 3 minutes to get the message but the whole thing is good.

Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
BearlySane88
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I'm not even gonna address your first claim anymore because it's ridiculous and a troll job at this point.

The article you posted is from a heavy left leaning publication. We've seen other video of Iranian rockets landing in Iran so why can't you even say it's a possibility this was Iran's accident and not the US or Israel?
BearlySane88
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She's just another talking head with no power at this point. If she really felt so strongly about all of this, she wouldn't have resigned. She gave up her ability to do anything about any of it when she stepped down.
BearlySane88
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It's very sad that those students lost their lives and of course there would be a big funeral for them, as they deserve
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags
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THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP.

AMERICA FIRST!





Rent Free Living in Domes 24/7/52
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Boom, Boom, Boom
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

I'm not even gonna address your first claim anymore because it's ridiculous and a troll job at this point.

The article you posted is from a heavy left leaning publication. We've seen other video of Iranian rockets landing in Iran so why can't you even say it's a possibility this was Iran's accident and not the US or Israel?


Wayward antiair missiles don't kill 200 people in one strike, 1,000lb precision-guided JDAMs do. There were dozens of wayward AA missiles in Kiev and other dense cities over the course of 4 years, none of these missiles that fell over dense neighborhoods had anywhere close to the Iranian school tally.

We do know that this attack was done by the US as other targets in the same neighborhood were also heavily targeted during the same bombing run.

You've posted a picture of a falling missile in Iran as proof but it turns out that that picture was geolocated 1,300km away from the school.



Verdict:
95% bad faith
5% ignorance
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:






That press conference was held at another school that was recently bombed, in the aftermath of the death of 150+ girls from US bombings.

Quote:

Missing context:
Iran's MFA held a press conference at Shahid Mahallati Boys' Elementary School in Tehran that was bombed by the US/Israel to draw attention to the targeting of schools.



Your source, which is Israeli, is willfully misleading by not providing this context and by claiming that official press conferences from schools are standard operating procedures.

100% misleading
0% ignorance
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

It's very sad that those students lost their lives and of course there would be a big funeral for them, as they deserve

You now what else is kind of sad, conducting carpet bombings of dense cities and not expecting thousands of civilian deaths.

90% civilian collateral damage in USAF afghan bombings. This needs to be repeated because a USAF intel analyst went to jail for revealing this number.

And thinking that the population is going to rally around their bombers is not just sad, but also pretty dumb.

sycasey
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BearlySane88
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And I admitted that picture wasn't from this event. All I said today was that it's possible it could have happened again in a different place and that was proven with the video posted yesterday that it did happen again in Iran.

Your grading scale is laughable. Go defend more regimes
BearlySane88
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Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?
Anarchistbear
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sycasey said:






Jesus is leaving town

Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...
BearlySane88
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...


Standing up for evil regimes again, Sycasey had it right. At least you're consistent.
Anarchistbear
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This was not thought through
DiabloWags
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The Brits are way ahead of us in their evacuation of 94,000.

Meanwhile, we have no plan.
Must be BIDEN's FAULT.



Government 'planning evacuation routes' for 94,000 Brits currently stuck in Middle East as airspace in Dubai and Abu Dhabi remains closed during Iran's suicide drone blitz | Daily Mail Online
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...


Standing up for evil regimes again, Sycasey had it right. At least you're consistent.


I would call out any regime that would target and kill children by the hundreds, that is a basic standard.

Israel has willfully slaughtered tens of thousands of them, on a scale unseen in the history of modern warfare, and I don't see you ever calling them evil.

You're still pathetically trying to deny that the US/Israel bombing was some kind of an Iranian missile own hit.

Newsom is landing the first big punch in the upcoming election, no one believes the BS about Iranian missile killing 170 little Iranian schoolgirls except the dumber segment of Trump groopies.

DiabloWags
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The Trump "groupies" will be going down with the ship.
What they're doing now is nothing more than rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

The Brits are way ahead of us in their evacuation of 94,000.

Meanwhile, we have no plan.
Must be BIDEN's FAULT.



Government 'planning evacuation routes' for 94,000 Brits currently stuck in Middle East as airspace in Dubai and Abu Dhabi remains closed during Iran's suicide drone blitz | Daily Mail Online


According to Huckabee, no need to evacuate US citizens in Israel, The Rapture is going to evacuate them straight to heaven.
DiabloWags
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Sounds like we had a well organized evacuation plan to get American's out.
A shuttle bus.


wifeisafurd
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...


Standing up for evil regimes again, Sycasey had it right. At least you're consistent.


I would call out any regime that would target and kill children by the hundreds, that is a basic standard.

Israel has willfully slaughtered tens of thousands of them, on a scale unseen in the history of modern warfare, and I don't see you ever calling them evil.

You're still pathetically trying to deny that the US/Israel bombing was some kind of an Iranian missile own hit.

Newsom is landing the first big punch in the upcoming election, no one believes the BS about Iranian missile killing 170 little Iranian schoolgirls except the dumber segment of Trump groopies.



You put your military in schools or hospitals, the deaths are on you. No one really cares about human shields, not Iran, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, the sides fighting in Yemen, Ethiopia, Mexico (you don't want to be around when the Mexican army is attacking cartels) and I could go about wherever there is conflict. Your ideals never existed in warfare. And not the US if you look carefully. We try to be nice, but we blow-up all sorts of targets knowing there will be civilian casualties. This is especially true when AI is guiding your missile launches. This is the cost of war.
BearlySane88
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wifeisafurd said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...


Standing up for evil regimes again, Sycasey had it right. At least you're consistent.


I would call out any regime that would target and kill children by the hundreds, that is a basic standard.

Israel has willfully slaughtered tens of thousands of them, on a scale unseen in the history of modern warfare, and I don't see you ever calling them evil.

You're still pathetically trying to deny that the US/Israel bombing was some kind of an Iranian missile own hit.

Newsom is landing the first big punch in the upcoming election, no one believes the BS about Iranian missile killing 170 little Iranian schoolgirls except the dumber segment of Trump groopies.



You put your military in schools or hospitals, the deaths are on you. No one really cares about human shields, not Iran, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, the sides fighting in Yemen, Ethiopia, Mexico (you don't want to be around when the Mexican army is attacking cartels) and I could go about wherever there is conflict. Your ideals never existed in warfare. And not the US if you look carefully. We try to be nice, but we blow-up all sorts of targets knowing there will be civilian casualties. This is especially true when AI is guiding your missile launches. This is the cost of war.

Well said
Cal88
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wifeisafurd said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Why aren't you denouncing the Iranians sending cluster bombs into other countries?


Do you expect them to send strongly worded letters to those that have been carpet bombing their cities?

Funnily enough, that is kind of what they've been doing before they were bombed in the 12 day war and before this new "four weeks to flatten the curve" bombing campaign...


Standing up for evil regimes again, Sycasey had it right. At least you're consistent.


I would call out any regime that would target and kill children by the hundreds, that is a basic standard.

Israel has willfully slaughtered tens of thousands of them, on a scale unseen in the history of modern warfare, and I don't see you ever calling them evil.

You're still pathetically trying to deny that the US/Israel bombing was some kind of an Iranian missile own hit.

Newsom is landing the first big punch in the upcoming election, no one believes the BS about Iranian missile killing 170 little Iranian schoolgirls except the dumber segment of Trump groopies.



You put your military in schools or hospitals, the deaths are on you. No one really cares about human shields, not Iran, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, the sides fighting in Yemen, Ethiopia, Mexico (you don't want to be around when the Mexican army is attacking cartels) and I could go about wherever there is conflict. Your ideals never existed in warfare. And not the US if you look carefully. We try to be nice, but we blow-up all sorts of targets knowing there will be civilian casualties. This is especially true when AI is guiding your missile launches. This is the cost of war.


There is no evidence of Iran having used those schoolgirls as human shields.

There are also major, major differences in how countries wage their wars.



SBGold
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Agreed, wiaf made that statement without any evidence to back it up. That's MAGA
tequila4kapp
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wifeisafurd said:

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tequila4kapp
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There's a post in one of these threads showing that Iran has moved their military functions inside schools and mosques. That is using human shields.

Hamas absolutely has integrated military into schools and hospitals so all 'death of children' numbers are false indicators of the result we are being asked to draw.

The BBC is rabidly anti-Israel so it is healthy to question anything they report.

BearlySane88
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Except there is evidence.

Multiple sources, including satellite imagery analyses in news investigations, confirm it was adjacent to or very near an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) naval/military complex (part of the Sayyid al-Shohada or similar IRGC Navy site, including barracks, a medical clinic with IRGC signage, and associated facilities like the Asif missile brigade headquarters). Distances cited include about 600 meters (or as close as 200 feet in some reports) from an IRGC naval base.

This was meant to be a reply to SBG not Cal88
Cal88
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tequila4kapp said:

There's a post in one of these threads showing that Iran has moved their military functions inside schools and mosques. That is using human shields.

Hamas absolutely has integrated military into schools and hospitals so all 'death of children' numbers are false indicators of the result we are being asked to draw.

The BBC is rabidly anti-Israel so it is healthy to question anything they report.


Israeli snipers shooting hundreds of children and toddlers in the head or chest has been corroborated by several sources. And no, the BBC is not biased against Israel, it is definitely biased towards Israel, your statement above is absurd.


BearlySane88
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One media watchdog's analysis of 2,533 BBC News website stories about the IsraelGaza conflict found:
~35% of headlines were critical of Israel
~11% were critical of Hamas
~50+% were neutral in headline tone
DiabloWags
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Strangely enough, there still has not been any explanation of the IMMINENT THREAT from IRAN that was the basis for this War.

The only thing that Trump has offered was that there was a "feeling" that an imminent attack was about to commence.
A feeling.

Let that sink in for a minute.
American men and women military members were put at risk because of a "feeling".



Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

One media watchdog's analysis of 2,533 BBC News website stories about the IsraelGaza conflict found:
~35% of headlines were critical of Israel
~11% were critical of Hamas
~50+% were neutral in headline tone


"One media watchdog"

The reason you're not putting a source here is that you know full well that it is a heavily biased one.
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

Strangely enough, there still has not been any explanation of the IMMINENT THREAT from IRAN that was the basis for this War.

The only thing that Trump has offered was that there was a "feeling" that an imminent attack was about to commence.


Rubio has pretty much answered that question, Israel was going to attack and forced the Trump administration's hand.



"according to Rubio the "imminent threat" that Iran posed - that justified "preemptive war" - was that the U.S. knew Israel would attack them, and they expected Iran would respond.

It's literally the equivalent of saying "I knew that guy was a threat because I knew he'd shoot back after getting shot by my friend."

Rubio calls striking Iran in that context "going proactively in a defensive way", which has got to be one of the most Orwellian sentences ever uttered by a Secretary of State.

Any normal can see that what this actually means was that those under "imminent threat" were actually Iran. Rubio just admitted very clearly that Iran was the victim here."
tequila4kapp
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DiabloWags said:

Strangely enough, there still has not been any explanation of the IMMINENT THREAT from IRAN that was the basis for this War.

Was there an imminent threat to the US in Lybia when Obama took out Qaddafi?
 
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