Operation Epic Furry Energy Crisis Thread

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Cal88
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Thread about the oil and gas shocks from Trump's ill-conceived adventure in Persia, from supply issues to gas prices at the pump.



LNG shipping rates have gone from $40,000 to $300,000 per day a 650% vertical climb in less than a week and the men who ordered the strikes that caused this are still strutting around the Oval Office talking about "strength." That is not strength. That is the economics of catastrophe unfolding in real time, and it will reach every kitchen table from Tokyo to Turin before anyone in the beltway finishes reading the intelligence brief they probably won't bother to read anyway.

The Strait of Hormuz through which roughly 20 million barrels of oil per day transit, representing north of 20% of global seaborne oil trade has effectively ceased to function as a commercial corridor, and what's doing the closing is less about Iranian missiles, and more the insurance market, the invisible hand of capital that everyone in Washington claims to worship suddenly delivering its honest verdict on Operation Epstein Epic Fury. Major commercial operators, oil companies and insurers have effectively withdrawn from the corridor, creating a de facto closure comparable in character to the Red Sea disruption but with far larger volumes at stake. The market has spoken. The war lobby apparently has not listened.

Qatar declared force majeure on gas exports, and sources say it may take at least a month to return to normal production volumes meaning global gas markets will experience shortages for weeks even in the unlikely scenario the conflict ends today. Read that sentence again slowly. Even if it stopped right now. Even if every bomb stopped falling this afternoon and every missile went cold, the damage is already baked in, the supply chain already severed, the cryogenic infrastructure already in shutdown sequence because the cryogenic nature of LNG requires specialised storage maintaining temperatures of approximately -160C, making it impossible to simply store excess production in temporary facilities, and once disruptions occur, restarting operations requires weeks of careful, sequential rehabilitation to avoid thermal shock to the entire system.

Qatar supplies 20 percent of the world's LNG and if that's off the table, countries must scramble for what remains. Japan scrambles. South Korea scrambles. Taiwan scrambles. India, which sources nearly half of its LNG intake from Qatari supply under long-term contracts , scrambles. These are not abstract geopolitical actors these are the factories that make your semiconductors, the power grids that keep hospitals running, the fertiliser supply chains that feed a billion people, and every one of them is now competing in a spot market that has been stripped of a fifth of its supply overnight. This is what cascading systemic failure looks like before it hits the news cycle.

Dutch TTF futures, Europe's benchmark gas contract rose 35% on Tuesday alone, with prices on the week running roughly 76% higher, while the Japan-Korea Marker benchmark reached a one-year high. Europe, still carrying the scar tissue of 2022 when Russia's war on Ukraine sent the continent into an energy convulsion it spent hundreds of billions surviving, is now staring down a second shock this one detonated by an ally that drew the target circles, pulled the trigger, and handed Europe the wreckage as a fait accompli no consultation, no warning, no framework for what follows, just the bill. The shutdown also affects downstream products including urea, polymers, methanol and aluminium , meaning the price destruction moves through industrial supply chains like a slow haemorrhage through every sector that uses energy as an input which is every sector.

https://islanderreports.substack.com/p/the-300000-question-nobody-in-washington
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BearlySane88
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The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.
dajo9
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BearlySane88 said:

The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.

Yes, so no complaining allowed from American gasoline consumers. The American oil companies stand to get rich so everybody else needs to keep their mouth shut. Trump and the American oil companies are willing to accept your sacrifices.
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.


The Canadians will demand tough conditions for selling their oil, including a rematch of the gold medal hockey game.
Anarchistbear
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BearlySane88 said:

The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.


Are you saying the US economy will be a beneficiary of this?
DiabloWags
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Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!




oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.
DiabloWags
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Remember when Trump said during his inaugural address that he was going to refill the SPR "right to the top" ?

Yeah, that didn't happen.
Trump dawdled around and didn't start refilling it until last October/November.
And even then, it was gradual.

DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:

BearlySane88 said:

The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.


Are you saying the US economy will be a beneficiary of this?


Great question.
Hopefully he can answer it instead of deflecting.
It would nice to see him substantiate his claim that gas prices can remain under $4.00 with a "source".

Because right now, NY RBOB is going to the MOON.



oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
And the chart that I posted above doesn't show a 50% increase either.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.



Your picture of gas at $7.61 was wildly misleading. Oh well, you do you, and never admit you are wrong.


DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.



Your picture of gas at $7.61 was wildly misleading. Oh well, you do you, and never admit you are wrong.




Thanks for admitting that gas prices aren't up 50%.
It's nice to see that you can admit that you were wrong.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.



Your picture of gas at $7.61 was wildly misleading. Oh well, you do you, and never admit you are wrong.




Thanks for admitting that gas prices aren't up 50%.
It's nice to see that you can admit that you were wrong.



Please learn to read before replying to me again. Thanks.
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.



Your picture of gas at $7.61 was wildly misleading. Oh well, you do you, and never admit you are wrong.




Thanks for admitting that gas prices aren't up 50%.
It's nice to see that you can admit that you were wrong.



Please learn to read before replying to me again. Thanks


Please use the ignore feature instead of replying to literally every one of my posts.
Your behavior is terribly pedantic.

Thanks.


oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Los Angeles.

Thank You President Trump!







Once again, you post the needle in the haystack as if it represents anything at all. Your price posts are meaningless because they are so dishonest. I can get Chevron gas in higher cost areas of Los Angeles for under $5.25 per gallon and other brands for $4.50.


We have President Trump's foreign policy to blame for higher gas prices.
That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.



Gas has gone up about 15%, not 50%. That's the point that you are missing.

Shocker.


I never said that gasoline has gone up 50%.
That was your highly erroneous claim.

Thanks.



Your picture of gas at $7.61 was wildly misleading. Oh well, you do you, and never admit you are wrong.




Thanks for admitting that gas prices aren't up 50%.
It's nice to see that you can admit that you were wrong.



Please learn to read before replying to me again. Thanks


Please use the ignore feature instead of replying to literally every one of my posts.
Your behavior is terribly pedantic.

Thanks.





Please use the ignore feature instead of replying to literally every one of my posts.

If you are going to reply to my posts, please post with honesty and integrity.

Your behavior is terribly pedantic.

Thanks.
Cal88
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chazzed
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dajo9 said:

Bearlysane has gone quiet for a bit. He must be off complaining to the moderators that he made some unintelligent arguments.

Either that or perusing the various Libs of Tiktok profiles for retorts.
SBGold
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You have to come from his logic where he is scouring AI for MAGA perspective counter responses to buy time and see if any of it can stick.

Based analysis and facts? Nah, that's not MAGA.

Noem and Lewandoski and Ashli Babbitt? Yes, that's MAGA
chazzed
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dajo9 said:

BearlySane88 said:

The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.

Yes, so no complaining allowed from American gasoline consumers. The American oil companies stand to get rich so everybody else needs to keep their mouth shut. Trump and the American oil companies are willing to accept your sacrifices.

DiabloWags
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The Orange Buffoon doesn't care.



Exclusive: Trump on rising gas prices during Iran operation: 'If they rise, they rise' | Reuters
DiabloWags
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chazzed said:

dajo9 said:

Bearlysane has gone quiet for a bit. He must be off complaining to the moderators that he made some unintelligent arguments.

Either that or perusing the various Libs of Tiktok profiles for retorts.


Speaking of retorts, whatever happened to the guy that loved Movies?

I miss all of his conservative Twitter truths.
Especially those financial market posts by Alexander Muse who dropped out of University of Texas.

He too, doesn't seem to understand that Trump's latest "tariffs" based on Section 122 of the 1974 Trade Act have to do with a balance of payments deficit THAT DOES NOT EXIST because we have floating exchange rates.






Cal88
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ML was temporarily suspended.
BearlySane88
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Just stating the facts
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dajo9 said:




I have a job bro lol. Your weird obsession with me is beyond creepy.
DiabloWags
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dajo9
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BearlySane88 said:

dajo9 said:

Bearlysane has gone quiet for a bit. He must be off complaining to the moderators that he made some unintelligent arguments.


I have a job bro lol. Your weird obsession with me is beyond creepy.

That's never stopped you before
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
DiabloWags
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BearlySane88
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dajo9 said:

BearlySane88 said:

dajo9 said:

Bearlysane has gone quiet for a bit. He must be off complaining to the moderators that he made some unintelligent arguments.


I have a job bro lol. Your weird obsession with me is beyond creepy.

That's never stopped you before


The obsession is weird. Get a life homie.
Cal88
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Time to book those summer plans...


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bearister
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With the current competency level of Administration officials, who has any confidence the government can keep us safe?

The said truth is, Noem wasn't even the bottom dwelling wanker in the bunch.
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
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Cal88
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bearister said:

With the current competency level of Administration officials, who has any confidence the government can keep us safe?

The said truth is, Noem wasn't even the bottom dwelling wanker in the bunch.


There are some relatively more competent people in the Trump administration, but they are kept in the kids table.

Meanwhile -
 
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