I totally "get" the No Kings idea but it just never really struck me as an effective protest that would resonate with the target audience.
dajo9 said:Cal88 said:bearister said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:concordtom said:
Sounds like turnout was dreadfully small for all of the protests. No Kings fatigue has set in or people just realized how silly it was to have a protest called that when we don't have anything even resembling a king.
Protests are a way of putting your voice out there particularly when you feel it isn't being heard in other ways. Elections are another way of putting your voice out there. This is an election year.
Are you saying that the protests were poorly attended because people are voting this year?
Yes, partly. Protest energy doesn't last forever. It doesn't mean the thoughts and motivation for change are gone.
It means people realized they were showing to protests named after something that didn't exist anyways*
Donald Trump views himself with monarchical or unchecked power:
Challenging Birthright Citizenship: On his first day back in office, he issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment, a move critics and legal analysts argue bypasses constitutional text, federal statutes, and Supreme Court precedent.
Unilateral Tariffs and Economic Measures:
He has invoked emergency powers to impose sweeping global tariffs, sidestepping Congress's explicit constitutional authority to regulate commerce and levy taxes.
Targeting the Federal Reserve:
He publicly called for the termination of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell ("Powell's termination cannot come fast enough!") and attempted to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook "for cause", prompting a temporary block by the Supreme Court as it reviews whether a president can dismiss central bank officials at will.
Impounding Congressional Funds: His administration has attempted to impound (refuse to spend) billions of dollars that Congress formally appropriated for specific programs, including public broadcasting, Voice of America, and international disease and aid initiatives.
Mass Firings and Dismantling Agencies:
He has pursued mass purges of civil servants and the dismantling or restructuring of independent federal agencies and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), facing dozens of lawsuits from judges who have rebuked the administration's view of Article II power.
Foreign Policy and Military Action:
He launched military strikes involving Iran without explicit congressional authorization for war, and floated or pursued aggressive foreign policy goals including proposed U.S. territorial takeovers (such as Greenland, Canada, or the Panama Canal) and treating Caribbean drug-trafficking boats as unilateral combat targets.
Monarchical Imagery and Rhetoric: He and his official or staff social media accounts have repeatedly shared and embraced royal imagery such as AI-generated and doctored images depicting him wearing crowns, royal cloaks, or mock "LONG LIVE THE KING!" magazine covers, alongside public statements where he has toyed with or brushed off comparisons to dictators or absolute rulers.
While Trump has occasionally disclaimed literal royal status (stating "I'm not a king"), critics argue that his active cultivation of the imagery combined with systematic efforts to strip away congressional, judicial, and agency oversight mirror the traits of an "imperial presidency".
*"Anyway" is the standard, correct choice for formal and written English, while "anyways" is an informal, nonstandard, or dialect variant.
The White House has released photos styling President Donald Trump as a king on social media.
https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-donald-trump-king-time-2033574
*Opinions not based on facts are little more than blather.
I kind of agree with BarelySane here, "no king" is kind of a fuzzy niche concept that was popular with the pink pus**cat hat crowd in the 2010s, it's kind of an insider, woke branding that doesn't resonate with the public at large. It actually turns off potential supporters.
The messaging should be more focused on the main issues, which have more universal appeal today as a result of Trump's disastrous policies :
-No wars of choice for Israel
-Inflation and cost of living
-healthcare
The Democrat establishment is pro-war, entirely complicit with Trump there, part of the reason they have been so mediocre at mobilizing popular support for what should be their platform. Dems who did do this, like El Sayed or Platner did do very well (Platner's personal issues notwithstanding).
As a Triple Trump supporter I would also say you are not a person to be influenced by on this topic.
Big C said:
I totally "get" the No Kings idea but it just never really struck me as an effective protest that would resonate with the target audience.
Cal88 said:dajo9 said:Cal88 said:bearister said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:concordtom said:
Sounds like turnout was dreadfully small for all of the protests. No Kings fatigue has set in or people just realized how silly it was to have a protest called that when we don't have anything even resembling a king.
Protests are a way of putting your voice out there particularly when you feel it isn't being heard in other ways. Elections are another way of putting your voice out there. This is an election year.
Are you saying that the protests were poorly attended because people are voting this year?
Yes, partly. Protest energy doesn't last forever. It doesn't mean the thoughts and motivation for change are gone.
It means people realized they were showing to protests named after something that didn't exist anyways*
Donald Trump views himself with monarchical or unchecked power:
Challenging Birthright Citizenship: On his first day back in office, he issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment, a move critics and legal analysts argue bypasses constitutional text, federal statutes, and Supreme Court precedent.
Unilateral Tariffs and Economic Measures:
He has invoked emergency powers to impose sweeping global tariffs, sidestepping Congress's explicit constitutional authority to regulate commerce and levy taxes.
Targeting the Federal Reserve:
He publicly called for the termination of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell ("Powell's termination cannot come fast enough!") and attempted to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook "for cause", prompting a temporary block by the Supreme Court as it reviews whether a president can dismiss central bank officials at will.
Impounding Congressional Funds: His administration has attempted to impound (refuse to spend) billions of dollars that Congress formally appropriated for specific programs, including public broadcasting, Voice of America, and international disease and aid initiatives.
Mass Firings and Dismantling Agencies:
He has pursued mass purges of civil servants and the dismantling or restructuring of independent federal agencies and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), facing dozens of lawsuits from judges who have rebuked the administration's view of Article II power.
Foreign Policy and Military Action:
He launched military strikes involving Iran without explicit congressional authorization for war, and floated or pursued aggressive foreign policy goals including proposed U.S. territorial takeovers (such as Greenland, Canada, or the Panama Canal) and treating Caribbean drug-trafficking boats as unilateral combat targets.
Monarchical Imagery and Rhetoric: He and his official or staff social media accounts have repeatedly shared and embraced royal imagery such as AI-generated and doctored images depicting him wearing crowns, royal cloaks, or mock "LONG LIVE THE KING!" magazine covers, alongside public statements where he has toyed with or brushed off comparisons to dictators or absolute rulers.
While Trump has occasionally disclaimed literal royal status (stating "I'm not a king"), critics argue that his active cultivation of the imagery combined with systematic efforts to strip away congressional, judicial, and agency oversight mirror the traits of an "imperial presidency".
*"Anyway" is the standard, correct choice for formal and written English, while "anyways" is an informal, nonstandard, or dialect variant.
The White House has released photos styling President Donald Trump as a king on social media.
https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-donald-trump-king-time-2033574
*Opinions not based on facts are little more than blather.
I kind of agree with BarelySane here, "no king" is kind of a fuzzy niche concept that was popular with the pink pus**cat hat crowd in the 2010s, it's kind of an insider, woke branding that doesn't resonate with the public at large. It actually turns off potential supporters.
The messaging should be more focused on the main issues, which have more universal appeal today as a result of Trump's disastrous policies :
-No wars of choice for Israel
-Inflation and cost of living
-healthcare
The Democrat establishment is pro-war, entirely complicit with Trump there, part of the reason they have been so mediocre at mobilizing popular support for what should be their platform. Dems who did do this, like El Sayed or Platner did do very well (Platner's personal issues notwithstanding).
As a Triple Trump supporter I would also say you are not a person to be influenced by on this topic.
You do a great job of showing why Dems have a tendency to faceplant by antagonizing independent voters, with your repeated lies, as you know damn well that I did not support Trump in 2024.
dajo9 said:Big C said:
I totally "get" the No Kings idea but it just never really struck me as an effective protest that would resonate with the target audience.
I don't know about the target audience. Some things you do for yourself. Attendance was great.
dajo9 said:Cal88 said:dajo9 said:Cal88 said:bearister said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:dajo9 said:BearlySane88 said:concordtom said:
Sounds like turnout was dreadfully small for all of the protests. No Kings fatigue has set in or people just realized how silly it was to have a protest called that when we don't have anything even resembling a king.
Protests are a way of putting your voice out there particularly when you feel it isn't being heard in other ways. Elections are another way of putting your voice out there. This is an election year.
Are you saying that the protests were poorly attended because people are voting this year?
Yes, partly. Protest energy doesn't last forever. It doesn't mean the thoughts and motivation for change are gone.
It means people realized they were showing to protests named after something that didn't exist anyways*
Donald Trump views himself with monarchical or unchecked power:
Challenging Birthright Citizenship: On his first day back in office, he issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment, a move critics and legal analysts argue bypasses constitutional text, federal statutes, and Supreme Court precedent.
Unilateral Tariffs and Economic Measures:
He has invoked emergency powers to impose sweeping global tariffs, sidestepping Congress's explicit constitutional authority to regulate commerce and levy taxes.
Targeting the Federal Reserve:
He publicly called for the termination of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell ("Powell's termination cannot come fast enough!") and attempted to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook "for cause", prompting a temporary block by the Supreme Court as it reviews whether a president can dismiss central bank officials at will.
Impounding Congressional Funds: His administration has attempted to impound (refuse to spend) billions of dollars that Congress formally appropriated for specific programs, including public broadcasting, Voice of America, and international disease and aid initiatives.
Mass Firings and Dismantling Agencies:
He has pursued mass purges of civil servants and the dismantling or restructuring of independent federal agencies and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), facing dozens of lawsuits from judges who have rebuked the administration's view of Article II power.
Foreign Policy and Military Action:
He launched military strikes involving Iran without explicit congressional authorization for war, and floated or pursued aggressive foreign policy goals including proposed U.S. territorial takeovers (such as Greenland, Canada, or the Panama Canal) and treating Caribbean drug-trafficking boats as unilateral combat targets.
Monarchical Imagery and Rhetoric: He and his official or staff social media accounts have repeatedly shared and embraced royal imagery such as AI-generated and doctored images depicting him wearing crowns, royal cloaks, or mock "LONG LIVE THE KING!" magazine covers, alongside public statements where he has toyed with or brushed off comparisons to dictators or absolute rulers.
While Trump has occasionally disclaimed literal royal status (stating "I'm not a king"), critics argue that his active cultivation of the imagery combined with systematic efforts to strip away congressional, judicial, and agency oversight mirror the traits of an "imperial presidency".
*"Anyway" is the standard, correct choice for formal and written English, while "anyways" is an informal, nonstandard, or dialect variant.
The White House has released photos styling President Donald Trump as a king on social media.
https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-donald-trump-king-time-2033574
*Opinions not based on facts are little more than blather.
I kind of agree with BarelySane here, "no king" is kind of a fuzzy niche concept that was popular with the pink pus**cat hat crowd in the 2010s, it's kind of an insider, woke branding that doesn't resonate with the public at large. It actually turns off potential supporters.
The messaging should be more focused on the main issues, which have more universal appeal today as a result of Trump's disastrous policies :
-No wars of choice for Israel
-Inflation and cost of living
-healthcare
The Democrat establishment is pro-war, entirely complicit with Trump there, part of the reason they have been so mediocre at mobilizing popular support for what should be their platform. Dems who did do this, like El Sayed or Platner did do very well (Platner's personal issues notwithstanding).
As a Triple Trump supporter I would also say you are not a person to be influenced by on this topic.
You do a great job of showing why Dems have a tendency to faceplant by antagonizing independent voters, with your repeated lies, as you know damn well that I did not support Trump in 2024.
If you are an independent voter than you are breaking the law unless your citizenship status has changed.
Big C said:
I totally "get" the No Kings idea but it just never really struck me as an effective protest that would resonate with the target audience.
James Carville says he'd rather have Republicans keep control of the House than Democrats winning the chamber by 5 seats.
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