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6:11p, 9/8/26
I just checked the latest information from the Defense Department.

To date, the US Military has suffered the loss of 18 personnel in the current War with Iran, which was tragic for all their family and friends.

That is 18 deaths over six months' time, or 3 deaths per month.

However, here at home, we lose more citizens than that in Chicago South Side on a hot summer night.

This is sort of a police action, an extremely expensive police action, but it's not a war.


CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING THIS A WAR NOW?
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In reply to SFCityBear • 6:25p, 9/8/26
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.


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In reply to DiabloWags • 6:40p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




You conveniently IGNORED

the 300 people in Chicago who have been murdered;
the 1300 people in Chicago who have been sexually assaulted;
the 3200 people in Chicago who have been robbed; and
the 5000 victims of aggravated battery in Chicago since Jan. 1.

Shameful.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 6:42p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




An important fact to note but the way you frame it makes it seem much more drastic than it really is.

Based on reports a few months back, a large majority of those injuries have been minor concussions with almost all of those service members returning to active duty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/10/us-troops-wounded-iran-war/

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-us-troops-killed-wounded-jordan-base
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In reply to oski003 • 6:47p, 9/8/26
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




You conveniently IGNORED

the 300 people in Chicago who have been murdered;
the 1300 people in Chicago who have been sexually assaulted;
the 3200 people in Chicago who have been robbed; and
the 500 victims of aggravated battery in Chicago since Jan. 1.

Shameful.


Your number of 500 aggravated batteries in Chicago since Jan 1 is actually well below the real number, by thousands.
There are about 136 aggravated batteries in Chicago per week. Over 7,000 during the last 12 months.

https://abcotvdata.github.io/safetytracker_chicago/Chicago_Safety_Tracker_Batteries.html
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:49p, 9/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




You conveniently IGNORED

the 300 people in Chicago who have been murdered;
the 1300 people in Chicago who have been sexually assaulted;
the 3200 people in Chicago who have been robbed; and
the 500 victims of aggravated battery in Chicago since Jan. 1.

Shameful.


Your number of 500 aggravated batteries in Chicago since Jan 1 is actually well below the real number, by thousands.
There are about 136 aggravated batteries in Chicago per week. Over 7,000 during the last 12 months.

https://abcotvdata.github.io/safetytracker_chicago/Chicago_Safety_Tracker_Batteries.html


I forgot a zero. Fixed. Ty.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:50p, 9/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




An important fact to note but the way you frame it makes it seem much more drastic than it really is.

Based on reports a few months back, a large majority of those injuries have been minor concussions with almost all of those service members returning to active duty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/10/us-troops-wounded-iran-war/

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-us-troops-killed-wounded-jordan-base


Your link from WaPo is from March 10th.
It's irrelevant.

Your link from CBS is from July 26th.
Also irrelevant.

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In reply to DiabloWags • 6:53p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.




An important fact to note but the way you frame it makes it seem much more drastic than it really is.

Based on reports a few months back, a large majority of those injuries have been minor concussions with almost all of those service members returning to active duty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/10/us-troops-wounded-iran-war/

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-us-troops-killed-wounded-jordan-base


Your link from WaPo is from March 10th.
It's irrelevant.


Lol yes as I stated in my post, "based on reports from a few months back" Do you just not read what people write? If you can find a more recent account for the injuries then please share. Scratch that, found one more recent and it confirms the exact same thing I already said. August 6th

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/08/06/iran-war-traumatic-brain-injuries-troops/c09c2d4e-9184-11f1-9fdc-0a725c989a7b_story.html

" Washington Post/AP reported that most of the nearly 700 wounded at that point had experienced TBIs and returned to duty. It also confirmed that Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell had characterized the vast majority of injuries during the July period as "minor concussions."


It's not irrelevant just because you don't like the facts.
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7:04p, 9/8/26
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:05p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


Largely true. Mild concussion symptoms are headaches.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:06p, 9/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


Largely true. Mild concussion symptoms are headaches.


Is that why 80 soldiers at al-Asad Air Base received Purple Hearts?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/10/more-than-100-us-troops-diagnosed-with-tbi-after-irans-attack-at-al-asad-report/
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:07p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


Largely true. Mild concussion symptoms are headaches.


Is that why 80 soldiers received Purple Hearts?



This article is from 2020, irrelevant!

730 should receive Purple Hearts from this Iranian conflict
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7:10p, 9/8/26

Charlie Kirk grew up in Chicago and has been following the violence there forever.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:14p, 9/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


Largely true. Mild concussion symptoms are headaches.


Is that why 80 soldiers received Purple Hearts?



This article is from 2020, irrelevant!

730 should receive Purple Hearts


Your making fun of traumatic brain injury is noted.
Donald Trump did the same thing in 2024

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:15p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
I remember when Trump said soldiers in Iraq simply suffered from headaches.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


Largely true. Mild concussion symptoms are headaches.


Is that why 80 soldiers received Purple Hearts?



This article is from 2020, irrelevant!

730 should receive Purple Hearts


Your making fun of traumatic brain injury is noted.
Donald Trump did the same thing in 2024

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/02/trump-downplays-troop-brain-injuries-from-iran-attack-as-headaches/


nobody made fun of traumatic brain injuries here. simmer down.
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In reply to brobear • 7:17p, 9/8/26
I disagree.

BearlySane88 said:
730 should receive Purple Hearts from this Iranian conflict
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:18p, 9/8/26
DiabloWags said:
I disagree.

BearlySane88 said:
730 should receive Purple Hearts from this Iranian conflict


I was saying that all injured service members should receive Purple Hearts. How is that making fun of an injury? I'm quite literally saying the opposite. They should be honored.
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7:15a, 9/9/26
According to Commander in Chief Bone Spurs, it's just a

"little excursion"

"small potatoes"

"No big deal"

I wonder if the families of our military personnel overseas feel the same way?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-iran-vance-war-23a45a2c45c048a9e894baeab89c7a2f


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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:27a, 9/9/26
DiabloWags said:
According to Commander in Chief Bone Spurs, it's just a

"little excursion"

"small potatoes"

"No big deal"

I wonder if the families of our military personnel overseas feel the same way?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-iran-vance-war-23a45a2c45c048a9e894baeab89c7a2f




Trump makes a lot of good points there. Thank you for the link.
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In reply to SFCityBear • 8:33a, 9/9/26
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This is sort of a police action, an extremely expensive police action, but it's not a war.


CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING THIS A WAR NOW?


The President called it a WAR.

March 24th, 2026

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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:59a, 9/9/26
DiabloWags said:
SFCityBear said:


This is sort of a police action, an extremely expensive police action, but it's not a war.


CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING THIS A WAR NOW?


The President called it a WAR.

March 24th, 2026


It's a war and it has been dreadful so far
"I Abide by Old and New Rules, and I Never Personally Attack. Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice."
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In reply to SBGold • 9:35a, 9/9/26
Contrary to all of the propaganda out of Trump and his Administration, there has been NO WINNING.

There has been no regime change.
There has been no control of the Strait of Hormuz.
There has been no control of Iran's plutonium stockpile.

Instead, we have record diesel prices, surging gasoline prices, and a yield on the 10 year pushing 5%.


In fact, former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta thinks that it could very well go on for another 6 MONTHS.

He told The Guardian: "It's no mystery that the United States and Iran are caught in a terrible stalemate, in which there really are very few options available to bring this war to an end."

He added: "I think the likelihood is this war is going to continue for another six months without being resolved."

He said that reports of tensions between staff at the Pentagon were weakening the United States' standing, saying: "Whether it's Iran, or whether it's our adversaries, they're now looking at the United States, and see weakness in terms of our ability to be able to really implement our military capability of defending our country."

"What I'm concerned about is that we're sending a message of weakness to our primary adversaries," he said.




Iran war will continue for another six months, former US defence secretary says | The Independent
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:34p, 11/13/26
DiabloWags said:
You conveniently IGNORED the 820 military personnel who have been wounded in action since Feb. 28th.

Shameful.



I didn't answer this right away, because I considered your post a personal insult, and I don't want to get banned, and I assume you don't either. I have been posting here for several years. I have been insulted personally, and I have insulted others, but this is the first time I was insulted for something I didn't say!

My post was not intended to be political. Donald Trump took action, sent planes ships and troops, and he called it, "The War with Iran". Then the Democrats called it the "War with Iran". So both sides are referring to this as a war, when it is not, at least in terms of scale or size.

I tried to imply the point that during most of history, the word "war" in military terms refers to a conflict between countries or states, with major losses in people, equipment, weapons, buildings and territory.

I wrote only about the combat deaths. You are wrong about my ignoring the wounded. I consider that a personal attack, which you followed up by saying that was "shameful".

I did not ignore the wounded. I wanted to use statistics to make my point about the size of this war being very small. It is a very expensive exercise, but it is not a war, by any means. Yes, I know you or I can be having a war with our neighbor, or our wife, but that is just a figure of speech.

To make my point with statistics, I made it with our own combat deaths. I did not mention the wounded because in mortal combat, the casualty figure is always shifting. Day by day, the wounded usually slowly recover from their wounds. In 2026, the year of the Iran War, 96% of the wounded have recovered well enough to be reinstated to Active Duty. Tragically, some of the wounded die of their wounds. The first charitable contribution I ever made was to Disabled American Veterans, and I've been contributing to them or other wounded veteran charities ever since.






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In reply to SFCityBear • 8:22p, 11/13/26
SFCityBear said:
CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING THIS A WAR NOW?

request denied # funk trunk
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In reply to SFCityBear • 8:29p, 11/13/26
SFCityBear said:
I tried to imply the point that during most of history, the word "war" in military terms refers to a conflict between countries or states, with major losses in people, equipment, weapons, buildings and territory.
To make my point with statistics, I made it with our own combat deaths. I did not mention the wounded because in mortal combat, the casualty figure is always shifting. Day by day, the wounded usually slowly recover from their wounds. In 2026, the year of the Iran War, 96% of the wounded have recovered well enough to be reinstated to Active Duty. Tragically, some of the wounded die of their wounds. The first charitable contribution I ever made was to Disabled American Veterans, and I've been contributing to them or other wounded veteran charities ever since.

so in your world on day one the terrible slaughter of school children means nothing..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack

> On 28 February 2026, the first day of the 2026 Iran war, the United States(US) Armed Forces struck the Shajareh Tayyebeh[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack#cite_note-3][a][/url] Elementary School in Minab, Hormozgan province in southern Iran with a Tomahawk missile, before following up with others in close proximity, directly killing 156 civilians, including 120 schoolchildren and 35 adults. As of 22 September 2026, the attack was the deadliest strike in terms of civilian casualties in the ongoing war; it was also the deadliest US attack on civilians in the 21st century,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack#cite_note-:10-7][6][/url] being the deadliest since the Amiriyah shelter bombing in 1991.
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In reply to smh • 8:31p, 11/13/26
Thank You SMH.
This is why Pete Hegseth should be impeached.
Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


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