Give those of us who are not in the regular habit of watching Fox News a guide to what shows are worth checking out.

Daily I'm amazed Fox hasn't dropped Sheppard Smith. He's the only one to regularly investigate and depart from the Hannity/Fox/Trump party line if the facts dictate. His analysis of the so called Clinton uranium scandal debunked just about everything the other Fox hosts were crowing non-stop. At the other end of the spectrum of responsible journalism is Hannity. After so many of their 'core' hosts left most spots were filled with attractive young women. And then there is Cal alum Gutfeld who reminds me that you can get a Cal degree without passing math or science, thus fully supporting the current POTUS.

Sheppard is a little different than the others on Fox News in one particular way. If I had to guess, that's why it's easy for many Fox News viewers to tune him out or discount him.

I will take the bait even though I am a moderate Democrat. I watch Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. I think he is pretty fair. I thought he was a fair debate moderator as well. I think colorable claims of sedition could be fashioned against Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson. As Mueller's investigation winds down and additional indictments are issued, pleas made, and prosecutions commenced and concluded, it will be interesting how those two are going to spin it when they are both proven by a preponderance of the evidence to have been on the wrong side of history all along.

Chris Wallace and Steve Hilton (the populist Revolution)

Odonto, no comment on my most fiscally irresponsible government ever thread?

....but Chris Wallace dishonored his show today by giving Rush Limbaugh a pulpit from which to spew his Gish Gallop codswallop. It makes one wonder what pressure was applied to Chris and by whom.
At one point after Limbaugh said the entire Russian collusion investigation is a fraud and its sole purpose is to get tRump, and that it is Hillary who colluded, Wallace asked Rush that if the investigation is a fraud then why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony. Rush stuttered a bit and then said Flynn has financial problems, he is a broken man and would say anything.

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....but Chris Wallace dishonored his show today by giving Rush Limbaugh a pulpit from which to spew his Gish Gallop codswallop. It makes one wonder what pressure was applied to Chris and by whom.
At one point after Limbaugh said the entire Russian collusion investigation is a fraud and its sole purpose is to get tRump, and that it is Hillary who colluded, Wallace asked Rush that if the investigation is a fraud then why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony. Rush stuttered a bit and then said Flynn has financial problems, he is a broken man and would say anything.

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Jesus, Chris Wallace is a sanctimonious ass-clown. Fake moderate. Tucker Carlson commands more respect than Wallace, Carlson has clowned himself but actually stands for something, is right once and a while, and acknowledges his ideological loyalties.

That you think having Rush on is what "dishonors" him is funny to me. For Christ sake he's a journalist and interviewer, Rush is incredibly popular (for better or for worse...for worse), why wouldn't both FOX and Wallace want him on the show...millions (even liberals) want to hear what comes out of his mouth.

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bearister said:

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....but Chris Wallace dishonored his show today by giving Rush Limbaugh a pulpit from which to spew his Gish Gallop codswallop. It makes one wonder what pressure was applied to Chris and by whom.
At one point after Limbaugh said the entire Russian collusion investigation is a fraud and its sole purpose is to get tRump, and that it is Hillary who colluded, Wallace asked Rush that if the investigation is a fraud then why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony. Rush stuttered a bit and then said Flynn has financial problems, he is a broken man and would say anything.

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Jesus, Chris Wallace is a sanctimonious ass-clown. Fake moderate. Tucker Carlson commands more respect than Wallace, Carlson has clowned himself but actually stands for something, is right once and a while, and acknowledges his ideological loyalties.

That you think having Rush on is what "dishonors" him is funny to me. For Christ sake he's a journalist and interviewer, Rush is incredibly popular (for better or for worse...for worse), why wouldn't both FOX and Wallace want him on the show...millions (even liberals) want to hear what comes out of his mouth.

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Don't get to excited. O/T is now one liberal circle jerk with topics to bate you.

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Sheppard is a little different than the others on Fox News in one particular way. If I had to guess, that's why it's easy for many Fox News viewers to tune him out or discount him.

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So, why do they keep him on?

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Sheppard is a little different than the others on Fox News in one particular way. If I had to guess, that's why it's easy for many Fox News viewers to tune him out or discount him.

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So, why do they keep him on?

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Just googled "why is shepard smith on fox news" and this article from The Week offers these thoughts on the most likely reasons:

1. Smith is on his way out and feeling free to speak his mind
2. Fox News actually wants Smith to put a bit of space between the network and Trump.

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"If I'm Fox News, I would view [Smith's commentary] as a good thing right now," said Dan Cassino, a Fairleigh Dickinson University political scientist who wrote a book on Fox News, espousing the second theory. "It builds the credibility of a news organization," as the Murdoch clan wants for their network. Besides, he adds, since Trump fans have no other cable-news options, "Fox isn't worried about its ratings."

Subscribing to the first theory is Tim Graham at the conservative Media Research Center, who argues that Smith is set to bolt to CNN or MSNBC. "His aggressive defense of the liberal media suggests he's looking at Greta Van Susteren and saying, 'Yeah, I could do that,'" Graham told The Post. "To me, it sounds like he's advertising to other networks. It just seems bizarre for him to be sticking up for CNN and MSNBC. It's like Jif peanut butter taking an ad sticking up for Skippy."

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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

WIAF, I think it's cool that you contribute to OT. You seem like a reasonable voice from the conservative end of the spectrum and don't have as your goal to "flood the zone with shiit" (Bannon quote and strategy).

I will say that the high volume of activity on OT right now is a direct reflection of Donald Trump (surprise, surprise). Shout out to the blue binoculars, too, without which I wouldn't be here.

Things to note:

• Trump lies and dishonors the Office and our country very frequently.
• Is it wrong to call him out on lies, hypocrisy, or corruption that occurs sometimes on a daily interval?
• Is doing so nothing more than signalling group membership?

If Mitt Romney were our president, I wouldn't be in OT. During these off season months, I might not even be on BI at all. I disagree that the ramped up activity in OT is just a "liberal circle jerk." Happy Presidents Day.

I have posted here before how much I respect Leon Panetta and that he is one of the sources I turn to for truth telling. TF is one of my other go to guys:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/trump-russia-putin.html?referer=

Faux News on the Mueller indictment and Florida shooting:

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17027456/fox-news-mueller-indictment-trump

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I have posted here before how much I respect Leon Panetta and that he is one of the sources I turn to for truth telling. TF is one of my other go to guys:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/trump-russia-putin.html?referer=

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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WIAF, I think it's cool that you contribute to OT. You seem like a reasonable voice from the conservative end of the spectrum and don't have as your goal to "flood the zone with shiit" (Bannon quote and strategy).

I will say that the high volume of activity on OT right now is a direct reflection of Donald Trump (surprise, surprise). Shout out to the blue binoculars, too, without which I wouldn't be here.

Things to note:

• Trump lies and dishonors the Office and our country very frequently.
• Is it wrong to call him out on lies, hypocrisy, or corruption that occurs sometimes on a daily interval?
• Is doing so nothing more than signalling group membership?

If Mitt Romney were our president, I wouldn't be in OT. During these off season months, I might not even be on BI at all. I disagree that the ramped up activity in OT is just a "liberal circle jerk." Happy Presidents Day.

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Just about all your posts demonstrate that you do not care one iota about politicians lying or "honor" in the WH (LOL), you only care that it's coming from a president you dislike greatly. Nothing but character criticisms

You're right, it's not really a "circle jerk". You're jerking yourself off here daily, and once in a while a buddy of yours will chime in and throw you a packet of lotion so you don't chafe. Flooding the zone is precisely what you're doing here. You're out of material when all you've got is recycling character indictments like we're talking about a Reverand or Pope. You're a partisan cheerleader -- nothing more -- using this free platform to navigate your own emotional and psychological turmoil, which, ironically enough, is a product of the identity politics pushed back into the maintream the last decade.

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WIAF, I think it's cool that you contribute to OT. You seem like a reasonable voice from the conservative end of the spectrum and don't have as your goal to "flood the zone with shiit" (Bannon quote and strategy).

I will say that the high volume of activity on OT right now is a direct reflection of Donald Trump (surprise, surprise). Shout out to the blue binoculars, too, without which I wouldn't be here.

Things to note:

• Trump lies and dishonors the Office and our country very frequently.
• Is it wrong to call him out on lies, hypocrisy, or corruption that occurs sometimes on a daily interval?
• Is doing so nothing more than signalling group membership?

If Mitt Romney were our president, I wouldn't be in OT. During these off season months, I might not even be on BI at all. I disagree that the ramped up activity in OT is just a "liberal circle jerk." Happy Presidents Day.

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Thanks. I'm not a Trump fan, and I agree he is divisive and engenders responses. I just choose to ignore him, and try to focus on policy. OTOH, some of the stuff here really is getting so repetitive and over the top you will end up losing any debate.

bearister said:

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I have posted here before how much I respect Leon Panetta and mobile casino games uk is one of the sources I turn to for truth telling. TF is one of my other go to guys:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/trump-russia-putin.html?referer=

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Thanks for the link!

Longtime Fox commentator, Col. Ralph Peters, quits Fox News quits in disgust, saying that Fox has "degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration." [Source: Buzzfeed]

Cambridge Analytica and Russia meddling pale in comparison to the damage Fox News has done and is doing to our country.

B.A. Bearacus said:

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Longtime Fox commentator, Col. Ralph Peters, quits Fox News quits in disgust, saying that Fox has "degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration." [Source: Buzzfeed]

Cambridge Analytica and Russia meddling pale in comparison to the damage Fox News has done and is doing to our country.

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melodrama = you post(s)

The power you ascribe to your ideological adversaries damages nobody but yourself and the quality of this board.

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bearister said:

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I have posted here before how much I respect Leon Panetta and mobile casino games uk is one of the sources I turn to for truth telling. TF is one of my other go to guys:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/trump-russia-putin.html?referer=

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Thanks for the link!

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And the point of adulterating my post with a casino link is?

Bearister, methinks this is a spam account.

What are the casino odds odds that Hannity has a squeezer before tRump does?