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movielover
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Leverage dropping?

UAE announces departure from OPEC effective May 1st.
PAC-10-BEAR
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Democrats shouldn't have been so harsh with Bondi. Her replacement steps in and stuff starts moving along.
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movielover said:



movielover
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You're showing some kind of privilege.
Aunburdened
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movielover
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Castille di Amorosa was built with on-site stones.
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movielover said:

Hopefully the first of many.

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Yeah, and Dr. Fishbones is an idiot like all the other X posters you repost here.

"No, John Kerry does not own a castle in Montana. However, this is a common mix-up often fueled by two specific facts: his education and his actual property in Idaho.
The Source of the Confusion
The "Montana" connection usually stems from Institut Montana Zugerberg, a prestigious international boarding school in Switzerland that Kerry attended as a boy in the 1950s. The school is housed in grand, historic buildings (including a former 19th-century hotel) that sit atop a hill and can easily be mistaken for a "castle" in photos.


His Real Properties
While he doesn't have a castle in the Treasure State, Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, are known for their impressive real estate portfolio, which has included:
  • The "Reassembled" Idaho Barn: They own a famous home in Ketchum, Idaho (near Sun Valley). It isn't a castle, but it is a massive, historic structure: a 15th-century barn originally built in England, dismantled, shipped to the U.S., and reassembled.

  • The Boston Townhouse: A historic five-story home in the posh Beacon Hill neighborhood.

  • Martha's Vineyard: A large waterfront estate in Massachusetts.

Summary
If you see photos of John Kerry associated with a "castle" and the name "Montana," you are likely looking at his Swiss boarding school. If you are thinking of his massive, rustic mountain retreat, that is located in Idaho."

Too bad Fishy didn't marry an heir from the Heinz fortune. He should get out of the basement.
SBGold
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Elon has engaged in more fraud and crimes than just about anyone on the planet though.
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SBGold said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:



Elon has engaged in more fraud and crimes than just about anyone on the planet though.


Feel free to support this claim with evidence
SBGold
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BearlySane88 said:

SBGold said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:



Elon has engaged in more fraud and crimes than just about anyone on the planet though.


Feel free to support this claim with evidence

I'm glad you asked Mr. Teach, digest this:

"While he has frequently emerged victorious in court, there is a substantial record of legal actions, settlements, and recent jury verdicts that critics point to as evidence of misconduct related to securities fraud, market manipulation, and transparency violations.


Here is a breakdown of the primary legal challenges and findings used to support such claims:
1. The Twitter Acquisition Misconduct (20222026)
This has been the most significant area of recent legal liability for Musk.
  • Delayed SEC Filings: In January 2025, the SEC sued Musk for failing to disclose his purchase of over 5% of Twitter stock within the legally required timeframe. The SEC alleged that by staying silent, Musk was able to buy more shares at a lower price, "underpaying" by at least $150 million at the expense of unsuspecting sellers.

  • Securities Fraud Verdict (March 2026): In a major civil trial in San Francisco, a jury found Musk liable for securities fraud. They determined he misled investors by tweeting that the Twitter deal was "temporarily on hold" and "cannot move forward" without more bot data. These statements were found to be materially misleading, causing shareholders who sold during that period to lose money. The jury awarded damages estimated at $2.1 billion.


2. The "Funding Secured" Case (2018)
This is the most famous instance of alleged fraud regarding Tesla.
  • The Tweet: In 2018, Musk tweeted he was considering taking Tesla private at $420 per share and had "funding secured."

  • The SEC Charge: The SEC charged him with securities fraud, arguing he knew the funding was not actually secured.
  • The Settlement: Musk and Tesla each paid $20 million in fines. Musk was forced to step down as Chairman for three years and agreed to have his tweets pre-approved by "Twitter sitters" (legal counsel). He did not admit to or deny the allegations as part of the settlement.

  • Shareholder Lawsuit: In a separate 2023 civil trial, a jury found Musk not liable for defrauding investors in this specific instance, though shareholders are currently appealing that decision.
3. Other Legal & Ethical Allegations
  • The "Unlawful Lottery" (2024): During the 2024 U.S. election, Musk and his America PAC were sued for operating a $1 million daily giveaway. Critics and state officials alleged this was an "unlawful lottery" used to influence voters.

  • Workplace & Personal Conduct: Musk has faced numerous lawsuits alleging a "toxic" culture at SpaceX and Tesla, including allegations of sexual harassment and racial discrimination. In 2024, The Wall Street Journal detailed allegations of inappropriate relationships with subordinates at SpaceX.

  • The "Pedo Guy" Defamation: In 2019, Musk was sued for defamation after calling a British cave diver a "pedo guy" on Twitter. Musk won this case, arguing it was a common South African insult and not a statement of fact.

Summary Table of Key Findings

Issue
Legal Status
OutcomeTwitter Disclosure
SEC Lawsuit (2025)
Alleged $150M in "ill-gotten gains."
Twitter Tweets
Jury Trial (2026)
Liable for misleading investors; $2.1B damages.
"Funding Secured"
SEC Settlement (2018)
$40M total fines; stepped down as Chairman.
Voter Giveaway
Civil Lawsuit (2024)
Allegations of illegal lottery operations.

While Musk's supporters argue his "free-wheeling" style is just a byproduct of his genius, legal authorities have increasingly characterized his public statements as manipulative tools that violate the protections of the public market."
BearlySane88
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The proof I was asking for was that it's more than basically anyone else on the planet
SBGold
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I gave you pretty long damn list. Pretty much more than anyone else on the planet, Teach, you got the evidence that tracks that you requested.

I get an A on the homework , Teach.

Choose Kindness
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Elon Musk has never been convicted of a crime in any jurisdiction. Claims or opinions labeling him a "criminal" are typically rhetorical or refer to civil/regulatory matters, not criminal guilt.
BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

I gave you pretty long damn list. Pretty much more than anyone else on the planet, Teach, you got the evidence that tracks that you requested.

I get an A on the homework , Teach.

Choose Kindness


You didn't support your claim at all. You posted a list that shows no comparison to anyone else. Back to school for you
BearlySane88
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Elon Musk has never been convicted of a crime in any jurisdiction. Claims or opinions labeling him a "criminal" are typically rhetorical or refer to civil/regulatory matters, not criminal guilt.


But, but SB gave me a list!
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SB will be posting Elon Nazi salutes shortly.
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movielover said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

SBGold said:

What are those percentages and what are those sources?

Tsk tsk, you're spouting stuff as facts that you have no evidence to support

lol here you go
Recent Yougov poll.
22% of young democrats vs 7% of young republicans support political violence.

Tsk tsk, can't do his own research.

Choose kindness lol

The thing about that stat is, if a Dem had won the 2024 election, the numbers could probably be reversed, right?

Why would Young Republicans feel like they need to resort to political violence when their party controls the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court?


The uni-party Congress doesn't do anything, and the Trump DOJ isn't moving fast enough on prosecuting political enemies. The desire for justice and revenge has never been stronger.



BREAKING: Senator Chuck Grassley's office requests answers from DOJ and FBI about ignored and buried investigations into Hillary Clinton

Grassley's office released the FBI Washington Field Office's 12-page "electronic communication" that opened a preliminary investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

They also released a trove of documents showing overwhelming evidence of alleged pay-to-play criminal activity by the Clinton family and emphasize lack of response from the DOJ, which highlights both politicalization and weaponization of information by the DOJ and FBI.

Grassley's office allegedly has the best investigative team that every GOP senator and congressman will admit consists of the most knowledgeable staff officials on how the Deep State operates.

I think the departments must be overwhelmed with all of the illegal behavior and UniParty blockage. This may be Grassley's parting shot, he's 93?

https://www.scribd.com/document/1031877620/2026-04-27-CEG-to-DOJ-FBI-Uranium-One-Et-Al

SBGold
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Yeah because he settled for millions.

Good job Tenner, lol
Cal88
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

Hopefully the first of many.




Does that everyone include the vast network of Epstein.
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SBGold said:

Yeah because he settled for millions.

Good job Tenner, lol

Elon Musk fought against SEC bureaucrats who tried to muzzle him. In 2018, he settled their bogus "funding secured" civil case for $20 million personally (no admission of guilt) to protect Tesla from collapse when banks had a gun to its head by threatening to cut off capital. He later called it out publicly, saying he was "forced to concede unlawfully" and that those "*******s" railroaded him just to save the company. Classic example of weaponized government targeting a true innovator.
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

Hopefully the first of many.



Does that everyone include the vast network of Epstein.

See Epstein thread. My understanding is the Trump administration arrested Epstein.
MinotStateBeav
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Ok, I'm actually speechless here...

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SBGold
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SBGold said:

Yeah because he settled for millions.

Good job Tenner, lol

Elon Musk fought against SEC bureaucrats who tried to muzzle him. In 2018, he settled their bogus "funding secured" civil case for $20 million personally (no admission of guilt) to protect Tesla from collapse when banks had a gun to its head by threatening to cut off capital. He later called it out publicly, saying he was "forced to concede unlawfully" and that those "*******s" railroaded him just to save the company. Classic example of weaponized government targeting a true innovator.

LOL, you are the equivalent of Karoline Leavitt for this guy

What a place to be in.
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Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside

“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
SBGold
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Those are out there Tenner, lol

Elon is pond scum
movielover
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I guess you prefer slacker stoners?

Cali Train to Nowhere now $231 Billion, doesn't include financing costs, and any estimates of getting into downtown LA and San Francisco are pipe dreams.

Brown - Newsom fiasco, worst White Elephant ever?

Even more sad, tye Libs which just pine for the days when a Democrat Socialist is in the WH to throw more money at it, more Green Scam shakedown money, and Central Valley Latino laborers aren't spending $100 on a ticket from Fresno to Modesto.

SBGold
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I posted all the things that Newsom has done great, how dare you call him a slacker stoner? How did we know you aren't one?

We've likely never had a fiscal and operational disaster as big as DOGE. Oh yeah, that was Elon.

Did it cut the deficit? Did you get a DOGE check?

How much has Elon grifted for Tesla from the government? How many illegitimate kids does he have?

Straight fraud

Choose Kindness and get a grip
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