+1000bearister said:
Until tRump became POTUS, I was not a Kap fan. Now I am a HUGE one. May God bless him.
AunBear89 said:
I'm loving all the videos of angry bros burning their Nike gear - that they already overpaid for.
Way to own the libs, broham!
Golden One said:
Taya Kyle's (American sniper's widow) response to Nike ad campaign featuring Colin Kaepernick:
Nike, I love your gear, but you exhaust my spirit on this one. In your new ad with Colin Kaepernick, I get the message, but that "sacrificing everything thing", it just doesn't play out here. Sacrificing what exactly? A career? I've done that both times I chose to stay home and be with my kids instead of continuing my business climband it wasn't sacrificing everything. It was sacrificing one career and some money and it was because of what I believe in and more importantly, who I believe in.
At best, that is all Colin sacrificedsome money, and it's debatable if he really lost his career over it. Maybe he sacrificed the respect of some people while he gained the respect of others. Or maybe he used one career to springboard himself into a different career when the first was waning. I don't know. What I do know is, he gained popularity and magazine covers he likely wouldn't have gotten without getting on his knees or as you say, "believing in something." I'm also thinking the irony is that while I am not privy to the numbers, it's likely he gained a lucrative Nike contract. So yeahthat whole "sacrificing everything" is insulting to those who really have sacrificed everything.
You want to talk about someone in the NFL sacrificing everything? Pat Tillman. NFL STARTING, not benched, player who left to join the Army and died for it. THAT is sacrificing everything for something you believe in.
How about other warriors? Warriors who will not be on magazine covers, who will not get lucrative contracts and millions of followers from their actions and who have truly sacrificed everything. They did it because they believed in something. Take it from me, when I say they sacrificed everything, they also sacrificed the lives of their loved ones who will never be the same. THAT is sacrificing everything for something they believe in.
Did you get us talking? Yeah, you did. But, your brand recognition was strong enough. Did you teach the next generation of consumers about true grit? Not that I can see.
Taking a stand, or rather a knee, against the flag which has covered the caskets of so many who actually did sacrifice everything for something they believe in, that we all believe in? Well, the irony of your ad...it almost leaves me speechless. Were you trying to be insulting? Maybe you are banking on the fact we won't take the time to see your lack of judgement in using words that just don't fit. Maybe you are also banking on us not seeing Nike as kneeling before the flag. Or maybe you want us to see you exactly that way. I don't know. All I know is, I was actually in the market for some new kicks and at least for now, I've never been more grateful for Under Armor.
Golden One said:
Taya Kyle's (American sniper's widow) response to Nike ad campaign featuring Colin Kaepernick:
Nike, I love your gear, but you exhaust my spirit on this one. In your new ad with Colin Kaepernick, I get the message, but that "sacrificing everything thing", it just doesn't play out here. Sacrificing what exactly? A career? I've done that both times I chose to stay home and be with my kids instead of continuing my business climband it wasn't sacrificing everything. It was sacrificing one career and some money and it was because of what I believe in and more importantly, who I believe in.
At best, that is all Colin sacrificedsome money, and it's debatable if he really lost his career over it. Maybe he sacrificed the respect of some people while he gained the respect of others. Or maybe he used one career to springboard himself into a different career when the first was waning. I don't know. What I do know is, he gained popularity and magazine covers he likely wouldn't have gotten without getting on his knees or as you say, "believing in something." I'm also thinking the irony is that while I am not privy to the numbers, it's likely he gained a lucrative Nike contract. So yeahthat whole "sacrificing everything" is insulting to those who really have sacrificed everything.
You want to talk about someone in the NFL sacrificing everything? Pat Tillman. NFL STARTING, not benched, player who left to join the Army and died for it. THAT is sacrificing everything for something you believe in.
How about other warriors? Warriors who will not be on magazine covers, who will not get lucrative contracts and millions of followers from their actions and who have truly sacrificed everything. They did it because they believed in something. Take it from me, when I say they sacrificed everything, they also sacrificed the lives of their loved ones who will never be the same. THAT is sacrificing everything for something they believe in.
Did you get us talking? Yeah, you did. But, your brand recognition was strong enough. Did you teach the next generation of consumers about true grit? Not that I can see.
Taking a stand, or rather a knee, against the flag which has covered the caskets of so many who actually did sacrifice everything for something they believe in, that we all believe in? Well, the irony of your ad...it almost leaves me speechless. Were you trying to be insulting? Maybe you are banking on the fact we won't take the time to see your lack of judgement in using words that just don't fit. Maybe you are also banking on us not seeing Nike as kneeling before the flag. Or maybe you want us to see you exactly that way. I don't know. All I know is, I was actually in the market for some new kicks and at least for now, I've never been more grateful for Under Armor.
Anarchistbear said:
Wounded warriors and snipers are a small demographic. The short term hit to the stock will be just that. Lots of millennial will be gobbling up Kap gear, plus Nike is a global brand and this this plays well overseas where everyone hates Trump and it will also play well with a lot of black NBA stars. The MAGA demographic is diminishing - no need to cater to it like the NFL has done. This also shows just how out of it and backwards the NFL brand is- this is a huge slap in the face to them.
B.A. Bearacus said:
100% with you on this, Golden O. Remember the good ol' days when blacks knew their place and played by the rules that everyone agreed to?
Also, remember when this clueless Hare Krishna looking a-hole Sinead O'Connor tore that picture of the Pope on SNL because she was upset about the child abuse scandals within the Catholic Church? Female Kojak needed a Joe Pesci smack to the face! She should have known that the Church would sort it out all by itself.
ps. Dateline, August 16, 2018: "Roughly 300 Roman Catholic priests in Pennsylvania molested more than 1,000 children - and possibly many more - since the 1940s, according to a sweeping state grand jury report released Tuesday that accused senior church officials, including a clergyman who is now the archbishop of Washington, D.C., of systematically covering up complaints."
Similarly to be kept in mind are: (1) The high percentage of Tories opposed to the Revolutionary War and Independence; and (2) that the divisions in this country have never been so brutal as between 1861 and 1865; and that, from the beginning of Reconstruction, through the 1920s (during which 50,000 KKK Members marched in Washington D.C., through past the period of the above polls, there was little division in this country on the race issue - overwhelmingly against integration, North, South, East & West.okaydo said:B.A. Bearacus said:
100% with you on this, Golden O. Remember the good ol' days when blacks knew their place and played by the rules that everyone agreed to?
Also, remember when this clueless Hare Krishna looking a-hole Sinead O'Connor tore that picture of the Pope on SNL because she was upset about the child abuse scandals within the Catholic Church? Female Kojak needed a Joe Pesci smack to the face! She should have known that the Church would sort it out all by itself.
ps. Dateline, August 16, 2018: "Roughly 300 Roman Catholic priests in Pennsylvania molested more than 1,000 children - and possibly many more - since the 1940s, according to a sweeping state grand jury report released Tuesday that accused senior church officials, including a clergyman who is now the archbishop of Washington, D.C., of systematically covering up complaints."
Anti Kaepernick and proud of it. He's nothing more than a washed up football player (who was never very good in the first place) who is longing for attention. Unfortunately, Nike has given him just that.ducky23 said:
I'm shocked!!! Shocked I say. That of all people, Golden one would be anti kapernick
With you 100% here, Golden O. It's like why are we focusing at all on deaths due to motor vehicle crashes, cocaine, and heroin when there are more deaths due to opioids than all those categories combined? Why are those dummies in MADD focused on booze when it's really about OPIOIDS?!Golden One said:
You mean like the hypocrisy in your crowd which doesn't seem to be bothered when over a hundred black people are killed each month in Chicago by other blacks but goes nuts when one cop shoots a black person?
Yeah, you go ahead and preach to me about hypocrisy!
Very predictible response from a hopelessly negative and prejudiced observer.AunBear89 said:
I'm picking up what you're laying down, B.A. But ol' Golden Onenote is terminally irony-challenged. He sees the entire world in shades of white(GOOD!) and black(BAD!). Perhaps with a lot of brown (ALSO BAD!) thrown in too.
Golden One said:
You mean like the hypocrisy in your crowd which doesn't seem to be bothered when over a hundred black people are killed each month in Chicago by other blacks but goes nuts when one cop shoots a black person?
Yeah, you go ahead and preach to me about hypocrisy!
You're a typical liberal. When he/she has no facts he/she makes up facts to suit himself/herself. You allege that I have no black friends. I have no idea if you're black, white, or brown, and I really don't care. I don't judge people by the color of their skin. But I'm willing to bet that I have more black friends than you do.B.A. Bearacus said:
Golden O, what the crowd on here doesn't realize is that just because a person has never had a non-white friend in his lifetime doesn't mean that he can't understand and appreciate the perspectives of non-white people. Period. High-five (star this) for never having had a non-white friend!
If you ever presented facts (which you haven't) there might be something to argue with or debate. All you ever do is denigrate people whose opinion differs from yours. That's so typical of those who share your political views.AunBear89 said:
Ah - deflection and projection. Options No.1 and No. 2 in the GOP "Can't argue with facts" Playbook. Well done, sir.
Golden O, if it were a white player kneeling during the National Anthem to spotlight changes needed in the American Catholic Church to rid itself of systemic child abuse, would you be similarly up in arms?Golden One said:
You're a typical liberal. When he/she has no facts he/she makes up facts to suit himself/herself. You allege that I have no black friends. I have no idea if you're black, white, or brown, and I really don't care. I don't judge people by the color of their skin. But I'm willing to bet that I have more black friends than you do.